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Hello fellow dakkanauts. Let's dedicate a thread to what we all do best, our first and foremost skill, nitpick the living daylight out of movies, tv shows and other media of the sort.
I'd like to nitpick the following. In the two most recent Godzilla movies, why in the hell are the soldiers shooting at Godzilla and cie with their standard rifles? These things couldn't probably kill a rampaging bull elephant and now you are shooting at a monster the size of a sky scrapper. It would be like shooting at an actual sk scrapper thinking that it's going to fall down. If you don't have the kind of cannons or missiles designed to destroy bunkers and topple sky scrappers don't even try. At best you'll make him notice you and reduce you to atom.
Going to be Dragon Prince again.
Multiple armies and groups, all converging on one location for the climatic show down.
Except, most of them _don't_ know they're going there, they leave at different times, the protagonist group's travel is shown as long and difficult with obstacles (including a 'go around or die' desert, which is explicitly a week detour, except the way they did it, which isn't replicable with an army)
Yet somehow three different armies and a couple different groups all show up within 24 hours of each other. There's even flashbacks of another group making the same journey years earlier, and they didn't have any of the difficulties either. Despite it being explicitly hostile territory for humans.
Its all to force a show down that doesn't make much sense, and the apparent villain is on the list of people who don't even know they're going to the final location when the journey starts! His adversaries can't possibly know where to intercept him, because HE didn't know when they started out!
The thing that always ruins “The Lost World Jurassic Park” is the freighter scene.
How the hell did the t-rex kill the crew of the ship? The Dino is massive and yet it seemed to eat everything of the guy driving the ship except his hand. The issue here is that this is in a confined space on the bridge which shows absolutely no damage on it. There was no way the Dino could’ve eaten him because it couldn’t fit it’s head into the room. I’d say it was the baby t-rex, but they make a point of saying how they brought it back to San Diego on a helicopter.
The ironic thing is only realized it because of how effective the scene was. I was thinking how it would’ve been great to have a whole movie about it and I suddenly saw the plot hole.
No nitpicking movies, books, comic books, etc is not fun, it is tedious, annoying and potentially toxic. It is not clever. It is the shallowest form of film criticism as it puts minutia over theme, story, character, and plot.*
*= Please note, this statement is intentionally controversial in order to drive discussion and dialogue.
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Indy gets the treasure, having lost two assistants of dubious moral virtue. Flees to the sea plane.
The two seater sea plane.
That's pretty easy. The two assistants were not leaving the country with Indy in the initial plan, or Indy had all ready planned to ditch them anyway.
The whole idea of the opening was to be a slam bang open with serial style adventure. To ignore that is.... missing the point entirely. Nitpicking is often to miss the point entirely.
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Johnny Knoxville’s character. Either the film is just so bad (and it is pretty bad) my mind has blocked it, but I swear his character just sort of.....stops being in the film.
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Easy E wrote: No nitpicking movies, books, comic books, etc is not fun, it is tedious, annoying and potentially toxic. It is not clever. It is the shallowest form of film criticism as it puts minutia over theme, story, character, and plot.*
*= Please note, this statement is intentionally controversial in order to drive discussion and dialogue.
Isn't that nitpicking on etiquette in and on itself?
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Easy E wrote: No nitpicking movies, books, comic books, etc is not fun, it is tedious, annoying and potentially toxic. It is not clever. It is the shallowest form of film criticism as it puts minutia over theme, story, character, and plot.*
*= Please note, this statement is intentionally controversial in order to drive discussion and dialogue.
I disagree, to a point.
If the movie is doing it's job and entertaining me, I won't notice the things to nitpick in the first place. Something like Aliens is a great example. Some little nitpicks (why does a gun firing caseless ammo spew brass everywhere when firing?) and even outright plot holes (nuclear plants do not detonate like a nuke no matter how bad the failure is) are ignored because the movie is highly entertaining.
If the movie is NOT doing it's job and entertaining me, I'll entertain myself BY nitpicking it to death. Thus, the SW sequels...
In the 1999 Mummy movie (the one with Brendan Fraser). Imhotep is shown to be buried alive with a bunch of flesh eating scarabs. He even clawed at his sarcophagus when burried alive. Yet, one of the main plot of the movie is him...running after his organs. How the hell was he alive without all his organs? If they removed the organs later, how did they survived the ravenous flesh eating scarabs?
Easy E wrote: No nitpicking movies, books, comic books, etc is not fun, it is tedious, annoying and potentially toxic. It is not clever. It is the shallowest form of film criticism as it puts minutia over theme, story, character, and plot.*
*= Please note, this statement is intentionally controversial in order to drive discussion and dialogue.
I mostly agree. It's a problem related to the need to jam everything into a scientific method. Trying to quantifiably prove the quality of things that exist largely in the realm of the psyche. There's probably a real way to do this involving brain chemistry, but trying to measure something like that while accounting for the wildly unique state of each brain is like trying to do chemistry without deionized water.
DeathKorp_Rider wrote: The thing that always ruins “The Lost World Jurassic Park” is the freighter scene.
How the hell did the t-rex kill the crew of the ship? The Dino is massive and yet it seemed to eat everything of the guy driving the ship except his hand. The issue here is that this is in a confined space on the bridge which shows absolutely no damage on it. There was no way the Dino could’ve eaten him because it couldn’t fit it’s head into the room. I’d say it was the baby t-rex, but they make a point of saying how they brought it back to San Diego on a helicopter.
The ironic thing is only realized it because of how effective the scene was. I was thinking how it would’ve been great to have a whole movie about it and I suddenly saw the plot hole.
I had a chat with someone about this one the other day.
Supposedly, the original plan was for the freighter to have Raptors running amok on it, those bits never made it into the movie but the ship still needed to crash, so they just kinda gloss over it.
One from a movie I watched a little while ago - "Scary stories to tell in the dark", at the end
Spoiler:
where the film just forgets that not only are the two main characters suspects in the disappearances of three people, they also escaped from jail leaving behind a dead Sheriff.
This one's annoying because the solution is so simple, don't kill the Sheriff.
Easy E wrote: No nitpicking movies, books, comic books, etc is not fun, it is tedious, annoying and potentially toxic. It is not clever. It is the shallowest form of film criticism as it puts minutia over theme, story, character, and plot.*
*= Please note, this statement is intentionally controversial in order to drive discussion and dialogue.
Isn't that nitpicking on etiquette in and on itself?
Maybe? I honestly do not know!
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Compel wrote: This thread just reminds me of this video essay about Shazam.
That is mandatory viewing! Have an Exalt!
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Voss wrote: Going to be Dragon Prince again.
Multiple armies and groups, all converging on one location for the climatic show down.
Except, most of them _don't_ know they're going there, they leave at different times, the protagonist group's travel is shown as long and difficult with obstacles (including a 'go around or die' desert, which is explicitly a week detour, except the way they did it, which isn't replicable with an army)
Yet somehow three different armies and a couple different groups all show up within 24 hours of each other. There's even flashbacks of another group making the same journey years earlier, and they didn't have any of the difficulties either. Despite it being explicitly hostile territory for humans.
Its all to force a show down that doesn't make much sense, and the apparent villain is on the list of people who don't even know they're going to the final location when the journey starts! His adversaries can't possibly know where to intercept him, because HE didn't know when they started out!
Didnt they have to take the long way around? First i think they had to go to the lodge, then sevveral other places. And wasnt that place the Sun Elfs guarded the entrance to elf land proper? ISnt that why they where able to make it when the other group ended up all turned around?
Voss wrote: Going to be Dragon Prince again.
Multiple armies and groups, all converging on one location for the climatic show down.
Except, most of them _don't_ know they're going there, they leave at different times, the protagonist group's travel is shown as long and difficult with obstacles (including a 'go around or die' desert, which is explicitly a week detour, except the way they did it, which isn't replicable with an army)
Yet somehow three different armies and a couple different groups all show up within 24 hours of each other. There's even flashbacks of another group making the same journey years earlier, and they didn't have any of the difficulties either. Despite it being explicitly hostile territory for humans.
Its all to force a show down that doesn't make much sense, and the apparent villain is on the list of people who don't even know they're going to the final location when the journey starts! His adversaries can't possibly know where to intercept him, because HE didn't know when they started out!
Didnt they have to take the long way around? First i think they had to go to the lodge, then sevveral other places. And wasnt that place the Sun Elfs guarded the entrance to elf land proper? ISnt that why they where able to make it when the other group ended up all turned around?
The exact geography is pretty unclear. But the kids got to fly on a phoenix for a bit, got to cut across a bay on ship while everybody else walked, got to take the secret moon elf route through the divide, got to cut across the uncrossable desert, so I'm not really sure they got stuck with the 'long way.' And the 1st human army didn't set out until a couple days after Ezran, Claudia and Soren got back (replicating the journey the kids took in season 1), so the kids were already well into the journey (basically at the border) by the time the 1st human army left (as nothing really kicked off until after Ezran got back).
The rougher part is that the 1st army was outside the sun elf city, which got thrown into chaos, but the sun elf army got to the battle site first.
Meanwhile, the second human army had to be contacted, be organized and set out from another kingdom, basically replicate their route, and the only messengers didn't set out until just before the 1st army left, and couldn't have known where the first army was going at that point, so having them show up mid battle was just...
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epronovost wrote: In the 1999 Mummy movie (the one with Brendan Fraser). Imhotep is shown to be buried alive with a bunch of flesh eating scarabs. He even clawed at his sarcophagus when burried alive. Yet, one of the main plot of the movie is him...running after his organs. How the hell was he alive without all his organs? If they removed the organs later, how did they survived the ravenous flesh eating scarabs?
Magic, I suppose. I was entertained enough to not worry about it.
epronovost wrote: In the 1999 Mummy movie (the one with Brendan Fraser). Imhotep is shown to be buried alive with a bunch of flesh eating scarabs. He even clawed at his sarcophagus when burried alive. Yet, one of the main plot of the movie is him...running after his organs. How the hell was he alive without all his organs? If they removed the organs later, how did they survived the ravenous flesh eating scarabs?
Magic, I suppose. I was entertained enough to not worry about it.
Me too. I actually loved that movie. It was an excellent popcorn flick while the "remake-ish" was pretty darn bad.
Watch from 1:00 to 1:25. You jump out of the back of the Pelican which is accelerating away. You fall down a slope, look up and the Pelican then flies over you again. How could the Pelican then reappear as if it was behind you? I very much doubt he did a turn just to fly over again as he's being pursued by Banshees.
It's a minor, minor thing in what is an overall great game, but I've always nitpicked that particular bit.
More a general nitpick brought on by the last episode of new Sabrina, that being characters totally forgetting about previous tech, magic or other macguffin that would totally fix this week's moment of peril
Spoiler:
Sabrina dies and the Aunties totally forgetting that they have a Lazarus pit
"AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED."
Time was, the Doctor just did the old maxim of “enter building and act like you’re meant to be there”.
I really do not like nor appreciate psychic paper.
Yes I agree. I kinda liked it when I first saw it, but now they just seem to use it as a master key, and the Doc can get in anywhere with the paper without question. I remember they ballsed up in the Canary Wharf ones where the guy had psychic training and saw it was blank, but IIRC no one has questioned it since.
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...