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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/04 15:03:53
Subject: Dealing With Maggotkin
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Elusive Dryad
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I have a friend playing Maggotkin and running mounted plague drones and blightkings, Gutrot Spume and Lord of Affliction.
We do 1,000 pt. games.
I am having the worst time not getting facerolled by his dudes, they are tough to kill and slap hard. I don't know much about the systems knowledge of the ins and outs of what their strengths and weaknesses are, so I'm not sure what I should be doing or what type of units I should be bringing to deal with that kind of army.
I have played against them with Seraphon Saurus build, Ironjawz Ardboyz spam and Skaven Clanrat clouds with Grey Seer and Clawlords. I've lost every game so I'm not sure where else to go. Any thoughts on where I should look to deal with it? Any good counters to that army?
Thanks in advance!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/05 21:43:23
Subject: Dealing With Maggotkin
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Hm, going off what you're saying it seems more like the issue is in your own armies--those are all builds which a traditional Maggotkin force can deal with easily. Can you elaborate on what you have access to/what you are willing to buy/what list(s) he is running?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/09 14:29:14
Subject: Dealing With Maggotkin
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Elusive Dryad
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Sure thing.
We are doing 1K pt. games to keep it short and simple. I have attempted it with three different armies. Maybe you'll see a common lapse between how I build them. I'll give you a brief list of unit comps.
Seraphon, Saurus Koatl's Claw
-Oldblood on Carnosaur
-Olblood (on foot)
-Skink Starpriest
-5xSaurus Knights w/swords
-5xSaurus Knights w/swords
-5xSaurus Knights w/swords
-20xSaurus Warriors w/spears
-10xSkinks w/blowguns&shields
Orruk Warclans, Ironjawz
Bloodtoofs
-Wierdnob Shaman
-Warchanter
-3xGore-Gruntas
-10xArdboyz
-10xArdboyz
-10xArdboyz
Skaventide, Verminus
-Grey Seer w/Death Frenzy and battleshock immunity aura
-Clawlord
-Clawlord
-40xClanrats w/spears
-40xClanrats w/Spears
-20xStormvermin w/Spears
-Ratling Gun
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/09 18:34:49
Subject: Dealing With Maggotkin
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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No common thread, I'll go through them one at a time.
The Seraphon one I will put bluntly; it is just a bad list. Saurus are the weaker half of Seraphon, and Saurus Knights are quite possibly the worst unit in the whole book. You have not done anything wrong per say, in theory the list would work, but the warscrolls involved are sabotaging you. To make a saurus heavy list viable you want to be using big blocks of infantry.
Ironjawz, you probably just need to optimize the list a bit harder; drop the Bloodtoofs subfaction, get a Megaboss with the Brutish Cunning command trait (drop an Ardboyz unit to fit him in). Be sure to use the Green Hand spell with your shaman. If you are still having trouble, Brutes are very good as a counter to Blightkings given their strong save and getting +1 to hit against models with a 4+ wounds characteristic.
Skaven; you have a solid list here. Of course it could be made better, but really there is nothing wrong with it. Blightkings just happen to counter clanrat swarms extremely well, it is simply a case of bad matchup. To make the list stronger without totally changing what it is, you could drop the ratling gun and one clawlord for an arch-warlock.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/09 20:10:39
Subject: Dealing With Maggotkin
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I play maggotkin and generally do well with them. Things that make it harder for me are: fast armies that I can not keep up with, especially when I find my army being pulled apart in the middle trying to get into combat with something, elite units with high damage/mw output which can remove near enough a whole unit of plague bearers or small unit of blight kings in a single round of combat, and anything that gives -1 to hit that prevents my blight kings exploding 6's. Anything you have got to capitalise on these weaknesses, exploit them. Any infantry based army, or low level elite units, I'll generally eat through pretty quickly, either through buffs or attrition.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/10 06:09:10
Subject: Dealing With Maggotkin
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Blightkings do exploding 6s unmodified, having a bonus or penalty doesn't affect it. It was errata'd a year or two ago.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/02/11 20:12:14
Subject: Dealing With Maggotkin
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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NinthMusketeer wrote:Blightkings do exploding 6s unmodified, having a bonus or penalty doesn't affect it. It was errata'd a year or two ago.
Ah ok, thanks for letting me know. Haven't managed to play much in that time...
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