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Hi guys.
I ran this list against BA yesterday and I have to say I was really happy how the craftworlds performed. I'd like your opinions on the list.

The harlequins are always great, never really feel like any of the units underpreform except for pure blade troupes, and the death jester maybe, i had to drop my humbling cruelty DJ for the craftworlds detachment. The farseer and wraithseer is a force to be reckoned with, farseer gives 5+ fnp to the wraithseer and he gives the farseer 3++ in return, its just incredible durability for a T:8 unit. He really draws fire as well, and that gives the bikes some room to breathe. The librarian managed to get null zone of one round and killed the farseer, but the wraithseer stood his ground. It all ended up in a victory for the Aeldari. One of the things I liked the most is how I feel like I can sit back a bit longer and wait, with the wraithseer as a excellent firing platform in addition to my bikes. With the bikes and starweavers alone I've felt like I've had to move up and engage earlier in the game. 3 denies is also really great.

Frozen stats battalion
Shadowseer WL-oksra, shadow stone, veil of tears
Troupe master twilight fang, darkness bite

5 caress 4 fusion
5 caress 3 fusion
5 kiss 3 fusion
5 embrace
5 embrace

5 skyweaver mythical role
5 skyweaver
2 skyweaver

3 starweaver

Craftworlds patrol - expert crafters, masters of concealment
Farseer on skyrunner guide, fortune
Wraithseer protect/jinx, d-cannon, missile launcher
5 Dire avengers, bladestorm, two shuriken catapults

Do you like the Wraithseer due to dual ranged weapons. Im pretty sure a Wraithseer cannot take a D Cannon and Missile Launcher. It allows the model to take one of the following D Cannon; one item from the heavy weapon list. I've not met anyone who interpreted it to take a D Cannon and a heavy weapon.

Would taking a single ranged weapon for the Wraithseer change your outlook regarding its utility?

I've not played this type of Craftworld Patrol. I've read your explanation for it, but I'm not sure it really adds enough to a Harlequin army to be worth 2 CP. I like Wraithseers, but I've not experienced games where they would draw fire away from units such as Skyweavers or Starweavers. For the points, that is roughly 20 Harlequins and a Solitaire.

Fortune and Guide on Skyweavers seems good. (Wasn't there errata somewhere that you couldn't mix something with Harlequins and Craftworlds? Maybe it was stratagems, cause quicken on skyweavers seems extra scary, if the shadowseer could be fitted with its version as well, and now you got two units in your face.).

But you wouldn't need a wraithseer to pull that off... just a warlock or warlock conclave.

 Sarigar wrote:
Do you like the Wraithseer due to dual ranged weapons. Im pretty sure a Wraithseer cannot take a D Cannon and Missile Launcher. It allows the model to take one of the following D Cannon; one item from the heavy weapon list. I've not met anyone who interpreted it to take a D Cannon and a heavy weapon.

Would taking a single ranged weapon for the Wraithseer change your outlook regarding its utility?

I've not played this type of Craftworld Patrol. I've read your explanation for it, but I'm not sure it really adds enough to a Harlequin army to be worth 2 CP. I like Wraithseers, but I've not experienced games where they would draw fire away from units such as Skyweavers or Starweavers. For the points, that is roughly 20 Harlequins and a Solitaire.

You’re right about the heavy weapon, it seemed right in battlescribe, but the error did come up. He’s good with just the d-cannon as well. The guy is a real MVP, being active in all phases, high resilience, high dmg in shooting and melee. How can I not bring him.

I've personally not had had much success with using Harlequins and Craftworlds. Harlequins required a lot of CP and the detachments never seemed to synergize well. It always felt like two different armies competing with each other on the roles they provide.

The Wraithseer is a decent model. I just don't see it being as necessary for a Harlequin army. I feel players can ignore the model for the most part. If you put Fortune on it, it is a T8 2+,3+/5++/5+++ model that puts out D3 shots. Why waste time shooting at it when there are other, less durable, yet more pressing threats? If opponents take the bait and shoot at it, I think they made a mistake.

In the psychic phase, the Harlequins can't take advantage of Protect/Jinx. Smite can be useful, but it is in Deny the Witch range and no way to buff casting ability. Casting Protect on a Farseer feels a bit unnecessary. There are rules to protect characters from shooting and a Farseer adds very little in assault.

Shooting is d3 shots at 24", no LOS. However, being out of LOS can also be a challenge as the base is @ 3" wide, so you need to subtract that amount to clear the terrain feature which slows him down further.

In assault, it has solid damage (d3+3), but only 4 attacks. He will hit 3-4 times and wound 3-4 times generally, thanks to Expert Crafters.

It reads like I don't like the model which is not the case. I run one myself in a Craftworld army. I just don't think this model brings enough to a Harequin army, especially for the near 400 points spent. I rate 20 Harlequins with Caress (Frozen Stars) over the Craftworld Patrol.


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 Sazzlefrats wrote:
Fortune and Guide on Skyweavers seems good. (Wasn't there errata somewhere that you couldn't mix something with Harlequins and Craftworlds? Maybe it was stratagems, cause quicken on skyweavers seems extra scary, if the shadowseer could be fitted with its version as well, and now you got two units in your face.).

But you wouldn't need a wraithseer to pull that off... just a warlock or warlock conclave.

Can't cast either power on Harequins. They lack the Asuryani keyword.

I personally like the idea of Harlequins + Craftworlds, and indeed there's a fairly recent winning list (from James Kelling from goonhammer) which relies on soaring spite battalion + cwe outrider

Anyway, if you were to support your harlequins with cwe, you need to bring something that harlequins lack, which is long range heavy fire. Wraithseer does not provide that, and you don't need the added DA's either.

Instead, I would personally bring in an outrider with farseer skyrunner, 2x2 war walkers and 3 hornets.

Otherwise, just full harlequins. My 2 cents