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I have material...pre-printing that shows a copy of all of the squadron cards. So I do know what all the cards will be. They would not have taken time to add to the list with the short time period that they had at that time before everything went to the printers. That being said...it is possible that there were changes....also I called a week before the deadline and gave a list of a few errors on the stats that were fixed. So could what I have be different? Sure. Is it likely, probably not. Either way I have asked for something to use to confirm everything just for the parties concerned and hope to get something if EU shipping is done.

I am a little concerned that of 4 hobby shops in my area only one box of Robotech is floating around.
I really think I will have to quickly get these darn models done to demo or the game will stillbirth in my area.
Anyone in the: Canada / Ontario / Guelph-Kitchener-Waterloo-Cambridge-Brantford area??
Halloooo??

Got a better location than that? I know someone East of Toronto that might.

Maybe they had more in stock but they sold out? *ducks behind cover due to a porcine strafing run*

My planned game is a bust for tomorrow. The FLGS owner did say he was getting in some robotech core boxes though.

hey Talizvar I am London way and get to KW Cambridge frequently....I got my KS stuff but have little interest after this debacle.....still if you need a hand
One of my FLGS has had a shipment in, sold out and got restocked o.o although most are looking to use the stuff for battletech

cheers

papasmurf

By Tim King

http://robotechwargaming.blogspot.ca/2014/12/mars-base-sara-battle-report.htmlhttp://robotechwargaming.blogspot.ca/2014/12/mars-base-sara-battle-report.html

Actually using Battletech mini's to add in with my Robo mini's lol

But using Inner Sphere units
So Rifleman are Gray Death
Warhammer are Black Widow

 PapaSmurf wrote:
hey Talizvar I am London way and get to KW Cambridge frequently....I got my KS stuff but have little interest after this debacle.....still if you need a hand .One of my FLGS has had a shipment in, sold out and got restocked o.o although most are looking to use the stuff for battletech
cheers
papasmurf

Will friend you... good to identify someone around.
Yeah, my regular gaming friends have been trying to vulture stuff out of this for Battletech.
They are already complaining that the "Marauder" and "Wasp" models were not to "proper" scale... such a shame.
But the "Warhammer", "Rifleman", "Archer" and "Longbow" are ace!

The Crusaders are Armored Valks
The Phenoix Hawk is Super Valk

Wonder if these guys are going to add the additional "Unseen" into the game

If by "these guys" you mean Palladium, yes, Super VT's and Armoured Battloids (among others) are in Wave Two.

We're talking the
Griffins
Scorpians
Shadow Hawks
Wolverines
Thunderbolt
Goliath
Battlemaster

Revell/Harmony Gold line

 Jihadin wrote:
We're talking the
Griffins
Scorpians
Shadow Hawks
Wolverines
Thunderbolt
Goliath
Battlemaster

Revell/Harmony Gold line

Those were from Dougram, which wasn't part of Robotech. Does HG have any rights of it that I don't know about?

 Albertorius wrote:

Those were from Dougram, which wasn't part of Robotech. Does HG have any rights of it that I don't know about?

Psst!

I think he wants to talk about them so he has an excuse to show us pictures of his grey death legion ones and black widow ones and skulls ones etc etc.


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link no worky

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this one?

http://robotechwargaming.blogspot.ca/2014/12/mars-base-sara-battle-report.html

 n815e wrote:
How polarized is the RRT community, in reality?

Of the more than 5000 backers, we're seeing a handful of constant complainers and a handful that are super fans. The rest of us are in the middle.

Who is this "us", white man?

I'm not a frequent poster in this thread or the comments (haven't posted anything in this thread or the comments in months), but at this point if I typed what I think of Kevin and PB in this thread, I'd be getting a nice little holiday from Dakka. Of course, being an Aussie, I'm considered a 5th-class citizen and so my gak won't be sent until they give enough of a feth to give a gak about it (ie after everyone else in the world).

And FWIW, I haven't followed the trials and tribulations of PB for the past however many years, have no recent pre-KS butthurt history with PB and am simply some guy who has a pile of the old Palladium and RT RPG books my my collection from when I used to do a lot of RPG gaming, and a few books I picked up a few years later. I knew nothing of their modern reputation and was simply a nostalgic old-timer coming back to one of my favourite games of my youth as opposed to a bitter internet hatemonger. After 18 months of constant lies, well, I already said what typing my thoughts out would get me.

At least as an Aussie, you know when your stuff is being sent; albeit after Europe. Us Asian, SEA backers aren't even considered important enough to mention

PB still hasn't even mentioned Latin America.

I do feel for all backers outside of the US and Canada.

Wow, so again, Wayne says he's not updating enough, then continues not to update. Well done.

Sining wrote:
At least as an Aussie, you know when your stuff is being sent; albeit after Europe. Us Asian, SEA backers aren't even considered important enough to mention

Really? I'd assumed from what was written (and the comments) that you guys were being done before us in some kind of airmail "RoW wave" that would arrive before ours - like Flying Frog is doing with SoB. Certainly a lot of bridges being burned here...

Harmony Gold probably has a grudge against Japan for all those lawsuits, and by the transitive and distributive properties Kevin is holding a grudge against your entire hemisphere.

I found some interesting stuff on my weekly youtube perusal. Looks like this was put up by the modeller according to the description. I'll have to find a pic of the gencon 3d print they were showing off but from first glance it looks the very similar. It's heartening to know that wave 2 information is out there and Palladium won't fething give us any because they're either too busy screwing over the ROW for Christmas or because they're about as confident as us in their ability to come through in a timely fashion on anything they say/state/promise/guess.




There are more videos on his channel both of not-Miriya as well as the normal Qraus.

Those do look nice!

Damn with the way things are going the canopy won't close. Can someone ask the ninjas if it'll close.

It looks a touch off to me. The legs look to long on the upper half. Maybe it's just the angle, or the pilot is up to high.

Well, it looks like there may be another wrinkle for Australian backers. According to David Shelling over on Palladium's Facebook page, there is a possibility that the costs of importation of the slow boat shipment, may be passed on to the backers, rather than being absorbed as a shipping cost.

The issue at play here, is that because PB are sending it as a single shipment, the entire shipment will be subject to duty and other applicable fees. Last I checked, it's about 18.5%, but that is charged on the value of the shipment, PLUS the shipping costs (lessened by the cost of the shipping method). So, 21% seems like a reasonable estimation.

However, if your individual order is less than $1000AUD (at the time of purchase, about $1000US, but now closer to $830US), if it were shipped direct, you wouldn't pay any fees. The question becomes, as David Shelling points out, IF Palladium and Good Games pass on those fees that WILL be charged on the slow shipment (well in excess of $1000AUS), Australian backers for the most part (those under the $1000AUS threshold), will be paying ~21% on packages that they wouldn't be, and getting it 2-3 months later for the privilege, over if Palladium had sent it direct.

It's still speculation at this point, with David Shelling on FB pointing out discrepancies, but if it's true, because PB took a shipping option that saved THEM money, it means that backers who shouldn't be paying any costs will have to. Makes my decision to eat the shipping cost on selling my pledges look pretty good now. I lost ~$100US off what I paid (and was glad to do so to be done with it), but that'd beat the potential $320US* I'd have due IF this situation holds up. But frankly, it seems like a very Palladium thing to do.

* That's based on the cost of the pledge. It goes down if PB assert and are charged at "cost of materials", and it goes up astronomically, if Customs calculates it on retail value.

EDIT: On looking at PB's latest weekly update, I noticed the following.

It is our understanding that this method of shipping should in most cases reduce the end cost to the recipient. That said, the recipient will, of course, be responsible for any and all fees, taxes and duties their government may charge. What taxes, duty and fees MAY be applied is completely out of Palladium’s hands. Again, it is our understanding that this method of shipping will mitigate the cost to the recipient.

Ironically, if this holds up, it'll have DRAMATICALLY increased the "end cost to the recipient". And that those fees are completely IN Palladium's hands (as they could ship directly, and the fees for most backers wouldn't be charged). So the last sentence, about "it's our understanding" would just be incredibly funny, and in every way a Palladi-esque way of dealing with the issue.

This would be incredibly Palladium

What an ideal time this would be for Wayne to start updating again!

Well, it looks like CSI have already gone to 40% off on all RRT merchandise, with their standard free domestic shipping for orders over $100. Meaning First Contact backers got doinked but good, and reducing the perceived value of a BC from "OMG great", to a more normal expectation. What was $400+* for $140 value can now be bought (assuming the discount isn't temporary) as two cores, and 8 expansions (2 Wave 1, 6 Wave 2)**, or $280, plus whatever for the 4 character models. Still a good deal (if you find the quality reasonable), but no longer great.

* Technically more, but anyone who buys the 2 Veri+2 BP+ZCom box over another core, is being silly. Plus, you'ld get another pair of Toma/Def to play with.

** I estimated CSI prices at $20. Sure, that's going to be more for the Super Valks, but I can't see them charging that for any of the Gnerl/Ghost/Lancer, and depending on relative size, maybe the FPA/MPA as well.

What does CSI stand for?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
What does CSI stand for?

Cool Stuff Inc. It's a webstore. And while most people expected 20-25% discounts (being a webstore), 40% for newly released items seems excessive.

Maybe they see some writing on the wall