Author |
Message |
 |
|
 |
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/12/02 18:52:48
Subject: 40K Primary Scoring Changes ( GT 2022 )
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
Goonhammer article slipped out early.
https://pastebin.com/L1gsui4m
Primary objective scoring is now 4, 8, or 12 points for holding one/two/more or two/three/more objectives in a player’s Command Phase.
Mission secondary objectives – such as Raze or Data Intercept – are gone. Instead missions now have new additional primary objectives that reward players for accomplishing certain actions, such as destroying three enemy units in a battle round or holding the priority target objective their opponent picks.
At least two of the secondary objectives have undergone major changes and there are more major changes to secondary objectives in the works (but we don’t know any more about those “major” changes).
|
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2021/12/02 21:50:58
|
|
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/12/03 13:50:20
Subject: 40K Primary Scoring Changes ( GT 2022 )
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
Jarms48 wrote:Destroying 3 units to fulfil primary is bad. Look at armies like knights. A knight player might only be 4 models if they're not taking the small knights.
I think it would work like this -- you can max 12 points on objectives for 48 in the game so you can still reach 45, but it is a little harder. Killing 3 units is harder for some matchups, but the goal, I think, might be two fold:
1) Allow armies that don't do certain things well to have an in-road to scoring primary another way
2) To dis-incentivize lists that are more vulnerable to those "secondary primaries"
The devil is in the details though.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/12/03 13:51:33
|
|
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/12/03 16:37:41
Subject: Re:40K Primary Scoring Changes ( GT 2022 )
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
Yea this is very interesting. Priority Target was the secondary everyone chose. Now people won't have a default 15 point secondary, which changes a lot for that mission. Here's hoping that secondaries change enough to accomodate armies or opponents that don't offer a lot of choice.
The second one is a redo of Retrieval, which had "Minimize Losses" and no one took that, really. Doing just hold two for four rounds gets you 32 so you need to kill 13 units to cover that gap. You'd still need to aim for a round of hold more to make that achievable even against MSU. Automatically Appended Next Post: tneva82 wrote:The new priority objective scenarion as boring as before. Automatic 15 secondary turned to automatic 15 primary
That's a fair bit different though. It means you can interact with no man's land less and try and strip them off their priority target. And then you still have to fill the 15 point void of that missing secondary. Automatically Appended Next Post: Also note that the opponent picks the priority target.
|
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2021/12/03 16:52:52
|
|
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/12/04 01:17:21
Subject: Re:40K Primary Scoring Changes ( GT 2022 )
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
Changes to secondaries
ROD
If this action is successfully completed, roll one D6 subtracting 1 from that roll if the unit that completed that action has the Troops battlefield role. If the result is less than or equal to the number of models currently in that unit, the table quarter is said to be Servo-skull retrieved.
It can be done by bikers and characters now albeit much less easily.
No Prisoners
In addition, if your kill point tally is between 50 and 99, you score 1 additional Victory Point. And if your kill point tally is 100 or more, you score 2 additional Victory Points. Automatically Appended Next Post: Skimping away with command squads, thralls, lictors, etc for ROD won't cut it any more.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/12/04 01:21:24
|
|
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/12/04 04:21:03
Subject: Re:40K Primary Scoring Changes ( GT 2022 )
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
ZergSmasher wrote:I'm wondering if there are still going to be some missions with the primary being "Hold 2/Hold 3/Hold More", or if all of them are now going to be 1/2/More.
Either way, this is going to have a massive impact on the competitive meta, almost as earth-shaking as a new edition. Do we have any info at all on when CA2022 is going to be released with these changes?
Hold 2/3 is a bitch when you're down. Hold 1/2 is easier to come back from a bad initial start.
Not that it should necessarily go that way, but that's just a minor observation.
CA should be out in Jan, I think.
|
|
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/12/04 15:05:46
Subject: 40K Primary Scoring Changes ( GT 2022 )
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
Fergie0044 wrote:I'm worried this will make armies with good codex specific secondaries even stronger. Oath of the moment's easy 15 points look even better now the primary objectives score less.
It doesn't, because you can only take one book secondary and now you have a gap to fill. Marines get away with two, because of sub factions, but oath isn't actually egregious.
|
|
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/12/04 16:02:06
Subject: Re:40K Primary Scoring Changes ( GT 2022 )
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
Sunny Side Up wrote:
The Nu-Priority-Target allows you to score: 11-11-11-11 from your deployment zone for a 44, making the swing for a hold-more at least once for a 45 less relevant. Of course, you lose the easy 15 of Priority Target as a Secondary.
Do note that the opponent now chooses which objective is your priority.
|
|
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/12/04 20:42:10
Subject: 40K Primary Scoring Changes ( GT 2022 )
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
tneva82 wrote:Rod changed to rnd. Need to roll less or equal to model number. -1 if you were not troop(or was it troop). Surprislng
Yea "Retrieve Nachmund (sp?) Data" - apparently we're going back to Vigilus.
|
|
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/12/05 22:46:32
Subject: Re:40K Primary Scoring Changes ( GT 2022 )
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
Goonhammer has the rest of the secondaries.
Engage, Bring it Down, Teleport Homers, and ROD with the biggest changes.
Interrogate no longer requires LOS - WOO!
https://www.goonhammer.com/the-grand-tournament-2022-secondary-objectives/
|
|
|
 |
|