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I have alwas liked this Night Lords Chaos Lord:
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-EU/Chaos-Space-Marines-Night-Lords-Hero
And Inquisitors (don't have this one):
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-EU/Grey-Knights-Inquisitor-with-Combi-weapon

And this Warsmith is sweet, always liked this model, and it is metal! Says so in the description:
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-EU/Chaos-Space-Marines-Night-Lords-Hero

The trouble is that the description text of the first two - the Inq and the Night Lord - don't tell me about the materials.
Does anyone know from what materials these are made? Plastic? Finecast? Metal?
My wish is that they are metal, but plastic is OK too. Finecast... gonna have to think hard about it.

Hoping that someone knows (well, I am sure that someone here does, so I guess that I am actually hoping that one of these people reads and responds to this thread).

Thanks for the time!

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Finecast. They don't do metal minis anymore, if you see something that's an ancient metal mould they're pumping resin into it these days. (They don't mention 'resin' or 'finecast' in the description for the same reason they stopped putting author credits on their books, because it's quicker and easier for them to just not mention the thing their customer base hates than it would be to stop doing it.)

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I bought the Night Lords Chaos Lord with the Kroot Shaper, the Regimental Advisors and the Missionary with Chainsword the 3rd of november, they are all metal. I ordered the Warpsmith in January and it was metal back then. Their Work Orders are respectively 206779, 204611, 195292 and 201330. My made to order of Dark Vengeance of 2 years ago has the Work order 145406 so they were cast recently. I think that they keep making metal miniatures only in the molds that never had finecast on them. I haven't the faintest idea why but it seems to be so.

Just in case is useful for someone, the Eldar Warlock, Fuegan and Baharrott were still metal in january too.

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Thanks for the info. I would like a baharoth too.

   
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 AnomanderRake wrote:
Finecast. They don't do metal minis anymore, if you see something that's an ancient metal mould they're pumping resin into it these days. (They don't mention 'resin' or 'finecast' in the description for the same reason they stopped putting author credits on their books, because it's quicker and easier for them to just not mention the thing their customer base hates than it would be to stop doing it.)



Actually they still sell metal models - the Skaven range has multiple models still in metal. I think the Swooping Hawk leader for Eldar is also still in metal.

You are correct that if they don't say, then its finecast; but if they say metal then its metal.

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Thanks for the info. I would like a baharoth too.


Glad to be helpful. I didn't notice when I wrote my first answer but, it may seem as if I ordered a bunch a miniatures and some were metal. In fact I only ordered those that included metal in their description. It has been my experience that some miniatures include metal in their description in one the stores (the british for the Night Lord if I remember well) but not in the spanish version of the store. Some miniatures say "a finely detailed resin cast kit" some say "metal" and others are a mistery. Whatever the case, it's true that miniatures that are Direct Only can dissapear in the blink of an eye.

Actually they still sell metal models


The Valhallan made to order was metal and I think some of the more recent Made to Order were a mix of finecast and metal.

the Swooping Hawk leader for Eldar is also still in metal.


That's Baharroth.

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 Overread wrote:
 AnomanderRake wrote:
Finecast. They don't do metal minis anymore, if you see something that's an ancient metal mould they're pumping resin into it these days. (They don't mention 'resin' or 'finecast' in the description for the same reason they stopped putting author credits on their books, because it's quicker and easier for them to just not mention the thing their customer base hates than it would be to stop doing it.)



Actually they still sell metal models - the Skaven range has multiple models still in metal. I think the Swooping Hawk leader for Eldar is also still in metal.

You are correct that if they don't say, then its finecast; but if they say metal then its metal.


So...wait...they retain the capacity to cast in metal...but they still do some models in finecast? Argh. I didn't think this information would make me angrier than I was already.

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My understanding is that moulds for metal and finecast might be "slightly" different at a functional level. GW clearly had to transition models from one material to the other even if they did it en-mass they never did everything in one go. Yes the idea of finecast was that it kept the costs for transitioning materials heavily down, but there was still clearly a need to invest in the transition and sign it off; which I think is just gone now and GW hasn't really touched either material to move one out.

I agree GW could have quietly removed finecast entirely and gone back to metal, but chances are they are just keeping the status quo going knowing that in time everything will move to plastics.

Metals to finecast might require some investment to transition which they don't want to spend; moving finecast back to metal means investing again and going back to a more expensive material. And on both fronts neither material I think sells all that greatly. GW don't tend to market those models very heavily in the first place and heck a good many have been direct order only which means 3rd parties don't push them for sales either.



All in all metal and finecast models are in the waiting for change.

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Lots of models for their lord of the rings range is still in metal. Anything made after the Hobbit is resin or plastic though. Like half the stuff that was originally metal still is metal. You have some weird packs/blisters that contains both metal and finecast models as well. Like you buy a command pack and the captain might be resin but the banner bearer is in metal.

You have to read carefully on each product to see what material it is made off.
   
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 AnomanderRake wrote:
Finecast. They don't do metal minis anymore, if you see something that's an ancient metal mould they're pumping resin into it these days. (They don't mention 'resin' or 'finecast' in the description for the same reason they stopped putting author credits on their books, because it's quicker and easier for them to just not mention the thing their customer base hates than it would be to stop doing it.)


Note model op quoted that is metal. And lotr has plenty of metal models. They do still cast metal models.

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