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I was working on a small primaris force and wanted to use Heavy Intercessors but have run into a bit of confusion. Looked up the data sheet on wahapedia and it says thhe following:

• If no model in this unit is equipped with a heavy bolter, you can take one of the following options:
- All of the models in the unit can have their heavy bolt rifles replaced with 1 hellstorm bolt rifle each,
- All of the models in the unit can have their heavy bolt rifles replaced with 1 executor bolt rifle each.
• For every 5 models in this unit, 1 Heavy Intercessor’s heavy bolt rifle can be replaced with 1 heavy bolter, 1 Heavy Intercessor’s hellstorm bolt rifle can be replaced with 1 hellstorm heavy bolter, or 1 Heavy Intercessor’s executor bolt rifle can be replaced with 1 executor heavy bolter.

So if I take, well anything not a heavy bolt rifle, I can't take a heavy bolter? Someone I was talking with said they liked Hellstorm Bolters with a Heavy Bolter but going by this sheet you can;'t do that. Am I missing something or is this just out of date?

Reading as you’ve put it?

If you specialise your Bolt Rifles, you have to specialise your Heavy Bolter to match.

Is there perhaps an errata or FAQ which changed the codex? Or a supplement. [i]Everyone-/i] enjoys a game of Hunt The Supplement!


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Well, there is an Errata

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/moc245s67mWNRmHb.pdf

If I’m reading it right, it just simplifies and clarifies.

Page 141 – Heavy Intercessor Squad, Wargear Options

Change the second bullet point to read:
‘For every 5 models in this unit, 1 Heavy Intercessor’s heavy bolt rifle can be replaced with 1 heavy bolter, 1 Heavy Intercessor’s hellstorm bolt rifle can be replaced with 1 hellstorm heavy bolter, or 1 Heavy Intercessor’s executor bolt rifle can be replaced with 1 executor heavy bolter.’

So you couldn't do 4 Hellstorm and 1 Heavy Bolter you would have to do 4 Hellstorm and 1 Hellstorm Heavy Bolter. It isn't a big issue it just seemed a bit odd.

That does seem to be the case from what we’ve both shared.

Though I would remind folk that others getting their rules wrong has been a long standing thing. When Tau first came out in the dim and distant, folk on Warseer/Portent were always writing lists giving their Commander a Dawn Blade, despite it never being an option, and I don’t think even had separate points, it being an integral piece of equipment for Farsight.

Could also be your friend just using short hand, and so Heavy Bolter in that context simply referring to any relevant variant?

Ya you have to have the corresponding heavy weapon upgrade if you decide to change the type of bolter for the entire unit.

 Dr.Duck wrote:
Ya you have to have the corresponding heavy weapon upgrade if you decide to change the type of bolter for the entire unit.

seems a dumb restriction

BrianDavion wrote:

 Dr.Duck wrote:
Ya you have to have the corresponding heavy weapon upgrade if you decide to change the type of bolter for the entire unit.

seems a dumb restriction

For sure an annoying trend in 8-9th

Granted this seems like an extra level of needless.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Dr.Duck wrote:
Ya you have to have the corresponding heavy weapon upgrade if you decide to change the type of bolter for the entire unit.

seems a dumb restriction

The restriction is logical. Each type of Heavy Intecessor Rifle has a corresponding Heavy Bolter variant that synergizes with the squads purpose. The existence of three types of Heavy Intercessor Rifles is the dumb part.

 Ahtman wrote:
So you couldn't do 4 Hellstorm and 1 Heavy Bolter you would have to do 4 Hellstorm and 1 Hellstorm Heavy Bolter. It isn't a big issue it just seemed a bit odd.

basically your right, but you CAN do it with deathwatch kill teams, which ignore the primaris weapon purity stuff and can mix and match for funies and profit.

 alextroy wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Dr.Duck wrote:
Ya you have to have the corresponding heavy weapon upgrade if you decide to change the type of bolter for the entire unit.

seems a dumb restriction

The restriction is logical. Each type of Heavy Intecessor Rifle has a corresponding Heavy Bolter variant that synergizes with the squads purpose. The existence of three types of Heavy Intercessor Rifles is the dumb part.

Agreed. The random S5 just for the hell of it is lazy.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Could also be your friend just using short hand, and so Heavy Bolter in that context simply referring to any relevant variant?

I'm betting that is what happened.

It is sort of logical, still I could see wanting to take something with -1 ap over a weapon with 1 more shot but no ap. Both the Heavy Bolter and Heavy Hellstorm Bolter are both "heavy" so one doesn't synergize much better than the other when using "assault" weapons.

They could also just have given them one load-out and then give them an upgrades that either increases shots, AP or damage by 1.