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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
Grimskul wrote: Didn't like the first one, highly doubt I would like this one, especially released so late after the first movie.
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one where I wish the humans just did an orbital bombardment on the Navi after they somehow got pushed off the planet.
You mean after they begrudgingly accepted that the planet is one super-sized interconnected organism and that, unlike fungus interconnectivity in real world woodlands; the planet itself could "fight back" in a direct manner? At that point you're not bombarding the Navi but the entire global ecosystem. Which can be done, but likely would result in insane amounts of political fallout back home for destroying and entire planets ecosystem.
Not saying the first film didn't have faults - for me mostly with a lot of characters who don't get well established and a general "slow start then super fast finish because we ran out of movie time" feel (Which honestly is super common in a lot of films as an issue -heck a majority of the super-hero films suffer from it)
Grimskul wrote: Didn't like the first one, highly doubt I would like this one, especially released so late after the first movie.
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one where I wish the humans just did an orbital bombardment on the Navi after they somehow got pushed off the planet.
You mean after they begrudgingly accepted that the planet is one super-sized interconnected organism and that, unlike fungus interconnectivity in real world woodlands; the planet itself could "fight back" in a direct manner? At that point you're not bombarding the Navi but the entire global ecosystem. Which can be done, but likely would result in insane amounts of political fallout back home for destroying and entire planets ecosystem.
Not saying the first film didn't have faults - for me mostly with a lot of characters who don't get well established and a general "slow start then super fast finish because we ran out of movie time" feel (Which honestly is super common in a lot of films as an issue -heck a majority of the super-hero films suffer from it)
I mean, given that the mercs/paramilitary forces already fully took over by the end of the movie and were committed to destroying it for resources, all they would need to do is take care of anyone else who would talk and just drop something from orbit. Can't exactly spread any news of atrocity when everyone else on the other side is dead or can't communicate it to the rest of humanity since the Navi have no interstellar communications anyways and whatever sympathizers they had were left on the planet with them where they'd almost certainly be dead, alongside with the majority of whatever equipment they had likely being destroyed in the resulting bombardment. It'd be scrubbed off like how EarthGov handled the Markers in Dead Space, and especially when it's aliens and not even humans they're dealing with? Super easy to create propaganda of how dangerous the species was and how it needed to be nuked for the safety of humanity if news somehow got out. Hell, there's precedence of these kinds of things where I don't think most people would bat an eye if IRL we found something like Aliens from AvP and decided to nuke them, so you just need to frame the Navi like that and bam, no one cares (or not enough for them to investigate, not like they were live broadcasting their engagements with them).
But yeah, it doesn't help that the movie was rote and a terrible rip off of Ferngully and Pocohontas, it was dreadfully boring even given the visuals.
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2022/11/03 05:53:37
Subject: Re:Avatar Way of Water - Official Trailer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
While it looks great, it will most likely just be the same plot as the previous movie more or less.
An interesting setting, but it will be wasted because they can't write any actually interesting stories and instead have to do another "colonialism/resource exploitation is bad m'kay!" movie.
Which will also Force Awaken's the first movie by completely ruining everything they accomplished in the first movie by making their victory pointless. Granted, it is a logical inevitability but at least with just the first movie they can get away with Happily Ever After, but instead they're actually going to admit that it meant nothing by having the humans come back and be the bad guys again for round 2 and they'll somehow win again by basically the same McGuffin that happened in the first one. Seriously, they've already spoiled the ending!
A better movie would be one that just has some inter-tribal conflict on the planet and we all pretend like the humans are never going to come back ever. Maybe drama over some of the natives beginning to adopt and use advanced technology themselves and we just focus on that.
Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Which will also Force Awaken's the first movie by completely ruining everything they accomplished in the first movie by making their victory pointless. Granted, it is a logical inevitability but at least with just the first movie they can get away with Happily Ever After, but instead they're actually going to admit that it meant nothing by having the humans come back and be the bad guys again for round 2 and they'll somehow win again by basically the same McGuffin that happened in the first one.
Well, that is Ukraine's plight if they win their war - becoming an armed camp waiting for the return of the Russians...
Personally, I would like the humans to win this time... They did the Battle of Gate Pā, now do what happened to the native Americans...
2022/11/03 16:48:12
Subject: Re:Avatar Way of Water - Official Trailer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
Nah, Ukraine is different. Russia will not survive in its current political form after this. Certainly not in any shape to continue its aggression in the future. They've already run out of bodies, and their demographics mean nothing will replace them.
Avatar is a totally different situation. There is nothing the natives can actually do to stop humans if the humans keep trying. Which just shows how shallow the setting is being used. So it really would be best to forget about humans mostly and focus on the alien world and its inhabitants. Ignore the obvious human problem for the sake of having an actual engaging storyline and not some recycled tropes that will sadly be just enough to finance Cameron's next 10 years of exploring the ocean. Rinse and repeat till he dies.
Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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