Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023

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**Garrac**

Games Workshop: Nah, we're not going to release a Renegades&Heretics army

Wargames Atlantic:

**Garrac**

Well, this is... interesting

Spoiler:

Ok, Im gonna fall. Female infantry and command squad are the correct guesses, and the other 2 remaining kits are a Men Chaos Rabble and female Chaos Rabble

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I mean, it doesnt have to be all full vraks heads, i bet therell also be enough unmasked heads for a full unit, with mutations and the such.

I thought about vehicles too, with a transport around there, but WA doesnt seem very interested on releasing vehicles, am i right?

Alltho, i coincide about dogs and chaos rabble options where they could put a feminine variant, one of those two might actually be on the final project.

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Not gonna lie, i have a window open, and im constantly refreshing. Looking forward

Spoiler:

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Well, seems like the crowdfunding may be released on USA horary, so it's highly possible it comes late on the night for us europeans, so we'll wake up with the news.

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Wargames Atlantic wrote:
1. What kit of those announced for the Army of the Damned are you most excited for?

2. What do you want to see as stretch goals?

1. Im very excited for the riders and the Brutes! I really need both of those to complete my crusade lol lmao even

2. Female infantry, please. I really want gender equality among my army of traitors, to send all three genders to the meat grinder! Also, lots of mutation. I really dont play traitor guard just to have normal giard with spikes, but to give them some chaos fun in the form of heretic mutations! And psykers too.

**Garrac**

Well, as Ive already stated, it would be cool to have women heads and mutation parts.

Also, I'm happy to see many weapon options, and that one of those is an "autofedgun", now i can really expand my infantry lol.

Curiously enough, my favorite face is the hooded guy whitout a headmask. That's a very cool detail.

Already hyped to see how it will combine with the other sets (I guess this confirms the hounds won't go alone and will have human masters and not ogryns, and also that the tanks will have commandeer options)

Also, plis, if WA is reading this, could you post the image of the separate parts on bigger resolution?

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Not Online!!! wrote:
why are all talking about hounds, when artillery and tanks and cavalry are far more relevant in any wargame

I don't care about the meta of any wargame

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GreenScorpion wrote:
Given that the latest news in the Wargames Atlantic website mentions that the basic kit will be interchangeable with the other kits except the brutes, my guess would be that the hounds are more along the lines of some sort of commandos rather than hounds, but I hope I am wrong and there is some sort of canine miniatures available.

It probably means these are going to be actual hounds controlled by human masters with whips, like the Imperialis Militia unit (this used to be done by ogryns on the old R&H codex tho)

**Garrac**

More news from the facebook page:

Cult of Paint continue to work on the infantry for The Damned! Here are another two to add to the horde. Crowdfunding campaign for 8 (maybe more?) plastic sets launches on Game Found on May 26th! We hope to have a landing page for you to keep track sometime next week if all goes well.
And yes to those who have been asking: there will definitely be some other head options for these fine fellows on the frame

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Garrac wrote:
More news from the facebook page:

Cult of Paint continue to work on the infantry for The Damned! Here are another two to add to the horde. Crowdfunding campaign for 8 (maybe more?) plastic sets launches on Game Found on May 26th! We hope to have a landing page for you to keep track sometime next week if all goes well.
And yes to those who have been asking: there will definitely be some other head options for these fine fellows on the frame

I must note here that WA talks here about how theyre open to the possibility of doing more kits, I'd bet probably if the campaign does well. So any wishlisted kit we have in mind could REALLY be an actual chance to get it.

**Garrac**

Looks like we're gonna have these preview articles every few days (perhaps next is on sunday?)

Now is the turn of the Brutes!
https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/up-close-the-damned-brutes

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Question here: will the crowdfunding contemplate shipping to the EU?

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Wargames Atlantic wrote:

What lord_Blackfang stated. We ship from our warehouse in the UK to EU customers with IOSS.

Oh! Thank you!

**Garrac**

When the crowdfunding comes out I think I'll mix the models a bit, just to have an infantry guy crouching down.

... wait, I just realized there's also "Artillery" between the units proposed, are we finally going to see traitor heavy ordenance batteries?

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So excited for this! I can't wait tbh

Also, btw, I've read on WGA facebook page that they are going to add options for the units to be bought separately, and that delivery dates will be given with the crowdfunding (alltho, an asap is very likely)

**Garrac**

New article on the Damned Command Squad:

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/up-close-the-damned-command

Alltho, this kit acording to WA is part of the objetives to unlock. We're still left the riders article on the basic crowdfunding sets (alltho, crowdfunding starts next friday, so we should have one article by unit every 2 in-week days)

Also, I love this helmet

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Knowing that international shipping limit is on 150 euros I'm going to have to be careful with the buys, as I want some of the packs on the first half, but I'm most interested on the second half (I need horsies). Also, is it me, or have Outriders changed at last hour from the first half of units to the objectives?

Edit: Seeing the add-on, what does the multipliers (e.j. here a x4) stand for?

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DaveC wrote:
Garrac wrote:
Knowing that international shipping limit is on 150 euros I'm going to have to be careful with the buys, as I want some of the packs on the first half, but I'm most interested on the second half (I need horsies). Also, is it me, or have Outriders changed at last hour from the first half of units to the objectives?

Edit: Seeing the add-on, what does the mutipliers (e.j. here a x4) stand for?

Spoiler:

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I must say, I think the "delivery on May 2024" is speculative/an autofill by Gamefound program? I don't think it'll take that long for the shipments to arrive

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GreenScorpion wrote:
Garrac wrote:
I must say, I think the "delivery on May 2024" is speculative/an autofill by Gamefound program? I don't think it'll take that long for the shipments to arrive

Given all of the kits are WIP and they have not started with layout/tooling, May 2024 may actually be too short for all the things they need to do after funding concludes, at least based on the typical development time for most Wargames Atlantic Kits. If we add the design, tooling, production and shipment, I would doubt that most locations except for the US would be able to get everything in that time frame, unless they put this project in front of restocks and other production/deliveries.

I was comparing it to the other Miniwargaming Gamefound campaign, where they started on december last lyear, ended some months ago, and are planning to go to shipping phase allegedly before summer ends. Alltho, it can be argued that that campaign may had had some of the production phases already prepared when it started and that WA may have another pace, I don't know.

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GreenScorpion wrote:
Garrac wrote:
GreenScorpion wrote:
Garrac wrote:
I must say, I think the "delivery on May 2024" is speculative/an autofill by Gamefound program? I don't think it'll take that long for the shipments to arrive

Given all of the kits are WIP and they have not started with layout/tooling, May 2024 may actually be too short for all the things they need to do after funding concludes, at least based on the typical development time for most Wargames Atlantic Kits. If we add the design, tooling, production and shipment, I would doubt that most locations except for the US would be able to get everything in that time frame, unless they put this project in front of restocks and other production/deliveries.

I was comparing it to the other Miniwargaming Gamefound campaign, where they started on december last lyear, ended some months ago, and are planning to go to shipping phase allegedly before summer ends. Alltho, it can be argued that that campaign may had had some of the production phases already prepared when it started and that WA may have another pace, I don't know.

Not sure if they had any other campaigns before that I am not aware but I think Miniwargaming was getting their miniatures produced in other materials other than HIPS (I think they were using PVC) and likely were ordering them from a company with a smaller time to market (there are several companies that focus on supporting manufacturing processes for crowdfunding campaigns).
What I meant is that with this campaign while in theory it would feasible to do everything in that time window, we have potentially 8 kits of miniatures to produce in HIPS, as well as a few other sprues for bases, which if you check the current offering from Wargames Atlantic is like 1/4 of the number of available kits in their range and while some of the activities can be performed in parallel, there are things like the mould tooling and the production of the sprues that are likely to be a bottleneck based on their previous releases.

Um I see. We'll see then, alltho while I have no problem in waiting if the shipping dates are correct, I can totally understand why others would have issues with having their money on a long project.

Also, looks like WA has listened and now the boxes on the packs can be chosen freely!
https://gamefound.com/projects/mwg--wargames-atlantic/the-damned#/section/rewards/reward-product-38594

Prices are still the same, more expensive than current WA kits, but is nice to feel heard

Also, I still consider weird how the outriders were pushed to stretch goals while the command squad was put on the basic pack, having in mind that their sprue looks like isn't still fully planned out, on the contrary as the outriders.

Also, I think we won't have more previews until the crowdfunding starts

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I think we may be getting more info on the hounds this monday or wednesday, since is the only not-unveiled kit. Ans most probably is actual doggies, since WA said a heavy infantry kit is a possibility for later stretch goals.

So, rn if you follow and back it up up to 5 kits you get for free:
-6 infantry soldiers
-A 25mm base sprue
-A 25x50mm base sprue
-A sprue of outiders
-A sprue of the hounds

I guess we might get more free stuff once the stretch goals are unlocked (alltho, I think the first ones will probably be completed on minute 1 since there are already like 808 people following in GameFound. Granted, a huge proportion might not buy it all, but the goals are humble enough for a quick fullfillment)

Also, just read on facebook that the campaign is going to last 2 weeks, but Gamefound uses to let you buy later pledges (as has happened with Ravaged star)

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Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I don't think we've seen the artillery either

Neither the tank, but I was talking about minis directly featured on the crowdfunding. I think we'll only get those 2 once the campaign launches

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Welp, they've updated the stretch goals to cover the 8 kits (alltho the 400 € is odd, since is an upgrade sprue for vehicles, instead of a proper vehicle?)

They've also put a free sprues section indicating which free stuff can you receive. Most interesting thing are the rewards for buyers of 10 or more boxes, that include:

-Female infantry (there's a typo there)
-Mutation sprue
-Heavy infantry
-Plastic terrain
-Power armour (¿?)

Atm none of this is included yet on stretch goals, but it's easy to supose that a lot of those are going to be reached up very quick seeing that the campaign 1000 followers (to compare, Ravaged Star had 4000 backers after 7 months)

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KipCujo wrote:
So as it stands, you have to buy 10 boxes to get about 1 box worth of sprues free, and probably pay shipping on top of it? The math will check out more when we see exactly how big a mutation sprue is or how many sprues compose a box of Heavy Infantry etc. etc. but I'm still struggling to see why to buy in now and not order local later.

Tbf WA has free shipping after 50 bucks, which all the packs surpass.

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The campaign is being pushed to the 30th

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/the-damned-moves-to-tuesday

(Also, it looks like we'll have more close-ups on the command squad and the artillery soon)

Also, look at the stretch goals:

-It's confirmed that the Hounds box will have 18 handlers and hounds (so, yes, doggies!!!!!)
-The artillery is made of 3 pieces
-The vehicle upgrades are 2 sprues

There's also (finally) the close-up on the outriders:
https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/up-close-the-damned-outriders

It's a box of 12 riders

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Shadow Walker wrote:
Garrac wrote:

-It's confirmed that the Hounds box will have 18 handlers and hounds (so, yes, doggies!!!!!)

Hopefully, because handlers does not mean automatically that they are dogs (could be some psycho troops as well).

"A box of 18 hard plastic handlers and hounds"

And from all the close-ups and previews and the such I'd say WA is not interested on doing psykers atm tho

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legionaires wrote:

Thank you so much for confirming about the Hounds (why was that so difficult?) I'm hoping they look really good because for some reason I just don't see many good sculpts of dogs. Now I can start figuring out how many boxes I might want.

I'm still waiting for a confirmation on the shipment deals. I hope many stretch goals get unlocked very early so I can grab the 5-box deal, as I'm only interested on the brutes and the command squad from the first half (I already own too many infantry lol)

**Garrac**

Oooooh, they've taken out the female damned infantry from the free rewards. That sucks.