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The Inquisition, here we go. We know you’re wishing, that we’d go away. But the Inquisition’s here and it’s here to stay.

New data slates up on Warhammer Community.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/kKj593HK6K628syU.pdf

This free datasheet download contains updated profiles for Inquisitors and their retinues, assassins of the Vindicare, Callidus, Eversor, and Culexus Temples, wealthy Rogue Traders, and the footsoldiers of the Navis Imperialis. Points costs for these units can all be found in the Munitorum Field Manual.

Glad to see the Breachers finding a home here in the "Little Book of Everything Else".

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The Inquisition, here we go. We know you’re wishing, that we’d go away. But the Inquisition’s here and it’s here to stay.

New data slates up on Warhammer Community.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/kKj593HK6K628syU.pdf

This free datasheet download contains updated profiles for Inquisitors and their retinues, assassins of the Vindicare, Callidus, Eversor, and Culexus Temples, wealthy Rogue Traders, and the footsoldiers of the Navis Imperialis. Points costs for these units can all be found in the Munitorum Field Manual.

... hey Torquemada, whadda you say, how about a little auto-da-fé?

On a completely unrelated note, did you hear that Hulu is now actually doing 'History of the World - Part 2' after 40 years? It will premiere on March 6, be an eight-parter and have 2 parts released every day for that one week. I'm sure it will not live up to the original, but then it's Mel Brooks, it can't be bad-bad.

Someone got the reference! Hurrah!

OK, so this is quite cool, means can do a Navy detachment for Boarding Actions?

Nice, now the assassins are hq choises...

StraightSilver wrote:
OK, so this is quite cool, means can do a Navy detachment for Boarding Actions?

Just my thoughts, would be a very thematic force with an Inquisitor or Rogue Trader heading them up.

Coteaz, fluff wrote:He
refuses to use the power
of the warp himself, and
aggressively prosecutes
those who do.

Coteaz, rules wrote:This model can attempt to manifest two psychic powers in your Psychic phase and attempt to deny one psychic power
in your opponent’s Psychic phase. It knows Smite and one psychic power from the Telethesia discipline (pg 17).

Got to love these minimum-effort rule updates.

StraightSilver wrote:
OK, so this is quite cool, means can do a Navy detachment for Boarding Actions?

I don’t think you can, as the Rogue Trader inexplicably has a rule that prevents them acting as a HQ for such a detachment.

 Crimson wrote:
I don’t think you can, as the Rogue Trader inexplicably has a rule that prevents them acting as a HQ for such a detachment.

Nothing inexplicable about it, this is a minimum-effort update like the legends rules and GW just didn't bother to fix all of the errors and leftovers from previous versions.

 Spreelock wrote:
Nice, now the assassins are hq choises...

They are Agent of the Imperium, you can add one assassin per detachment without taking any unit slots.

M.

 Crimson wrote:

StraightSilver wrote:
OK, so this is quite cool, means can do a Navy detachment for Boarding Actions?

I don’t think you can, as the Rogue Trader inexplicably has a rule that prevents them acting as a HQ for such a detachment.

Oh, you're right, spotted her Keyword but didn't actually read her rules.... Well, that's... frustrating....

It's about what as low effort as I expected (updated my rear, nothing's changed), but I'm glad we still exist.

Couldn't even bother to give the Daemonhost a Daemon save Huh? Oh well. At least Monke-spam is still halfway decent in boarding patrols. Not a lot that can bring an S8 Ap3 3D on a 4+ WS 3W 20pt platform, and not a lot that can survive it. not to mention handing out free rerolls to hit, wound, or both.

I do appreciate the keyword move as well, as that means you can finally weld them together into one entity, especially now that Breachers and Voidsmen give you an actual troops choice. Even if they can't be compulsory troops because we can't have nice things, can we?

 ProfSrlojohn wrote:
It's about what as low effort as I expected (updated my rear, nothing's changed), but I'm glad we still exist.

Couldn't even bother to give the Daemonhost a Daemon save Huh? Oh well. At least Monke-spam is still halfway decent in boarding patrols. Not a lot that can bring an S8 Ap3 3D on a 4+ WS 3W 20pt platform, and not a lot that can survive it. not to mention handing out free rerolls to hit, wound, or both.

I do appreciate the keyword move as well, as that means you can finally weld them together into one entity, especially now that Breachers and Voidsmen give you an actual troops choice.

They're not troops in an agents of the imperium detachment annoyingly. Or rather can't be compulsory.

 ProfSrlojohn wrote:

I do appreciate the keyword move as well, as that means you can finally weld them together into one entity, especially now that Breachers and Voidsmen give you an actual troops choice.

Except Breachers and Voidsmen can only fill troop slots in Navis Imperialis detachment... Which isn't something you can actually form as far as I can see.

It's a mess.

 Crimson wrote:

 ProfSrlojohn wrote:

I do appreciate the keyword move as well, as that means you can finally weld them together into one entity, especially now that Breachers and Voidsmen give you an actual troops choice.

Except Breachers and Voidsmen can only fill troop slots in Navis Imperialis detachment... Which isn't something you can actually form as far as I can see.

It's a mess.

yeah, just noticed that. God inquisiton players continue to be hit with the monkey's paw. "Want troops? Here you go, but they can't ever be compulsory except in a detachment which isn't even possible"

It is not completely low effort. Acolytes now have the agent of the imperium keyword so now they can show up with the inquisitor.

Also, in the arks of omen boarding action rules there are rules that make the acolytes troops.

As someone who has accumulated a fair few Agents models through KT and other bits and bobs I was quite excited to see them all together with coherent rules. Until I read said rules.

Despite finally having a troops choice they can't be troops for army building. Except when they can be troops but in that case they can't have a HQ. It's madness. They have a really nice narrative going at least with the ship's crew models that could make a wonderful thematic Boarding Operations force, but no. I understand these models don't sell well enough to make them worth a lot of effort but surely basic effort at least, otherwise why bother selling them?

At least they noticed Inquisitors technically had no legal rules I guess.

Dirk Reinecke wrote:
It is not completely low effort. Acolytes now have the agent of the imperium keyword so now they can show up with the inquisitor.

Also, in the arks of omen boarding action rules there are rules that make the acolytes troops.

That would make it more than zero effort. When the best thing to say about the update is that it got a single keyword right it's a textbook example of a minimum-effort joke by GW.

Our chief weapon is surprise. That's all, just surprise.


(Also a fanatical devotion to convoluted and poorly though-out rules. Gotta love GW's insane 'you can, but actually you can't')

Tallonian4th wrote:
otherwise why bother selling them?

Mostly Kill Team and the 40k board games, which is where they originally came from. Adding 40k pseudo-rules is just a lazy attempt to get 40k players to buy them.

Well it's a good thing Boarding Patrol detachments don't have any compulsory HQ, troop, or elites slots.

The Jerreko and the Deamonhost are characters. You are only allowed three Elite Characters per army. Their is no monkey spam.

Thanks for the rules! These are mainly for AoO and for players like me who could care less about battleforged armies, but I appreciate getting them for free.

Now my Navy Breachers and Starstriders can also be used in 40K and not just in Kill Team. Already coming up with an AoO mission for these for our upcoming 40K campaign. I will need one Valkyrie though for the other half of the mission (plan is to make a 2 part mission, one part in AoO and one a combat patrol game)

No Arbites but Navy Breachers!!! They would fit pretty well in rhinos or valkyries, missed op if you ask me.

Don't need troops in AoO don't forget, just use elites as the compulsory.

 tauist wrote:
Now my Navy Breachers and Starstriders can also be used in 40K and not just in Kill Team.

Both of them already had 40k rules. All this "update" did was combine them into a single pdf without bothering to fix the rule issues they had.


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Dudeface wrote:
Don't need troops in AoO don't forget, just use elites as the compulsory.

Rogue traders/navy don't have elites, only troops (which can't be compulsory without the HQ) and HQ (which can't be a compulsory slot). You'd have to take some questionably thematic inquisition or assassin stuff to fill those mandatory slots. Which is absurd because it's clearly supposed to be possible to do the all-navy detachment, GW was just lazy and didn't bother to correct the issue where the rogue trader can't be a compulsory HQ.

Have GW said where the Arbites rules for 40k will appear? I know they've mentioned two unit choices, but not where the rules will be printed. Perhaps this PDF might see an update?

If so, it might be worth people contacting them - politely - to see if someone can make a couple of tweaks to the other units in the PDF to make a legal AotI detachment a reality.

And maybe, y'know, giving them some Dedicated Transport options for such a detachment, even if it is just "Use the Chimera/Valkyrie/Rhino datasheet, replacing the WHICHEVER keyword with the AGENTS OF THE IMPERIUM keyword where applicable"

Aecus Decimus wrote:

 tauist wrote:
Now my Navy Breachers and Starstriders can also be used in 40K and not just in Kill Team.

Both of them already had 40k rules. All this "update" did was combine them into a single pdf without bothering to fix the rule issues they had.


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Dudeface wrote:
Don't need troops in AoO don't forget, just use elites as the compulsory.

Rogue traders/navy don't have elites, only troops (which can't be compulsory without the HQ) and HQ (which can't be a compulsory slot). You'd have to take some questionably thematic inquisition or assassin stuff to fill those mandatory slots. Which is absurd because it's clearly supposed to be possible to do the all-navy detachment, GW was just lazy and didn't bother to correct the issue where the rogue trader can't be a compulsory HQ.

That's true but I was replying in the context of a "agents of the imperium" detachment so just sub in the Rogue Trader as an inquisitor.

Not my cup of tea, but between this pdf, the Chaos Demons codex and Arks of Omen, I'm seeing a BSF-style solo/coop campaign similar to The Glymmsforge Catacombs.