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Would it make sense for a stealth/recon regiment like the Tanith 1st to make use of a tank like the Baneblade?
If so, which variant (if not the standard BB) would be the best fit?

No. Tanith are light infantry with an emphasis on stealth, a massive superheavy tank doesn't fit that concept at all. If you want a Baneblade for a Tanith army it would be best handled as a tank (or tanks) from another regiment acting in support of the Ghosts.

 ThePaintingOwl wrote:
No. Tanith are light infantry with an emphasis on stealth, a massive superheavy tank doesn't fit that concept at all. If you want a Baneblade for a Tanith army it would be best handled as a tank (or tanks) from another regiment acting in support of the Ghosts.

This. The only one that could make much sense for an infantry regiment in general is a Stormlord as a regimental command vehicle, but that isn't Gaunt's style nor does it match the Tanith combat doctrines.

Better having a superheavy attached from a Narmenian armoured regiment or something along those lines.

Considering 300 years have passed since the current Ghost's book and Current Year.M41, there's nothing actually stopping you from doing it.
The Tanith were founded as a light infantry Regiment but at present the 1st are the core Regiment of Executor Gaunt's battlegroup. By the time we hit 999.M41 the Tanith have two new worlds to recruit from (Verghast and Belladon) both of which can provide new Regiments that don't have to be recon or light infantry. In fact IIRC the Belladon Regiments are known for their heavy infantry formations.
Throw in the possibility of a new Tanith homeworld and it's perfectly fine IMO. Drape some camo netting on that bad boy and have fun.

What?

OP, rock the Baneblade.

It's awesome.

 Gert wrote:
Considering 300 years have passed since the current Ghost's book and Current Year.M41, there's nothing actually stopping you from doing it.
The Tanith were founded as a light infantry Regiment but at present the 1st are the core Regiment of Executor Gaunt's battlegroup. By the time we hit 999.M41 the Tanith have two new worlds to recruit from (Verghast and Belladon) both of which can provide new Regiments that don't have to be recon or light infantry. In fact IIRC the Belladon Regiments are known for their heavy infantry formations.
Throw in the possibility of a new Tanith homeworld and it's perfectly fine IMO. Drape some camo netting on that bad boy and have fun.

This is fair, it very much depends on when in the narrative the OP wants their Tanith to be set. I think a superheavy is unlikely-but-plausible during the later Sabbat Worlds crusade, and definitely was not present during the early years of the Tanith 1st, but there is no reason a refounded new Tanith 1st* in the 42nd millennium couldn't have a superheavy, for example.

However, attaching a superheavy from an armoured force also operating in the Crusade (like the Narmenian regiments) captures more of the Sabbat Crusade lore within a force, and personally is the route I think is more interesting. Other people may prefer otherwise.


*The Tanith 1st is almost certainly going to settle a world using Gaunt's Right of Conquest granted to him by Slaydo by the end of the series. At some point a New Tanith 1st will be raised for Imperial tithes from this world.

I’ll echo the calls that you should do what you want with your army. Who cares if it doesn’t 100% match the set stories. Plus you can have some fun throwing camo nets and foliage to help conceal the baneblade.

If you do want 100% lore accuracy, you can simply have the tanks be from a supporting regiment like the Pardus, Urdeshi, or others. I think it was Honor Guard that had the Pardus and the ghosts spent most of the book as mechanized infantry.

But mostly you should do what you want.

 Gert wrote:
Considering 300 years have passed since the current Ghost's book and Current Year.M41, there's nothing actually stopping you from doing it.
The Tanith were founded as a light infantry Regiment but at present the 1st are the core Regiment of Executor Gaunt's battlegroup. By the time we hit 999.M41 the Tanith have two new worlds to recruit from (Verghast and Belladon) both of which can provide new Regiments that don't have to be recon or light infantry. In fact IIRC the Belladon Regiments are known for their heavy infantry formations.
Throw in the possibility of a new Tanith homeworld and it's perfectly fine IMO. Drape some camo netting on that bad boy and have fun.

Time has passed but guard regiments are still focused on specific roles. A Baneblade would never be assigned to a light infantry regiment no matter how much time passes or how many new recruits join the regiment, that's a unit that would only be found in a heavy tank regiment. And yeah, a new Tanith homeworld might begin raising heavy tank regiments but that's not what OP asked about. OP was specifically asking if a Baneblade would be part of a light infantry recon regiment like the 1st.


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 evil_kiwi_60 wrote:
Who cares if it doesn’t 100% match the set stories.

OP apparently, because they asked about what would fit the existing lore.

There's a difference between "I want to do this-how do I best make this fit the lore?" and "Does this fit the lore at all?"

The original post leans towards the latter, which is fair-but at the same time, if Gruppe wants a Baneblade, they should get the Baneblade.

 ThePaintingOwl wrote:
Time has passed but guard regiments are still focused on specific roles. A Baneblade would never be assigned to a light infantry regiment no matter how much time passes or how many new recruits join the regiment, that's a unit that would only be found in a heavy tank regiment. And yeah, a new Tanith homeworld might begin raising heavy tank regiments but that's not what OP asked about. OP was specifically asking if a Baneblade would be part of a light infantry recon regiment like the 1st.

That's not accurate at all. Is the Cadian 278th exactly the same as the first-ever Cadian Regiment raised? What about the Catachan 42nd? Or the Tallarn 112th?
Guard Regiments are raised based on what the Munitorum wants and if Verghast is ordered to raise an Armoured Regiment under the Tanith name, then Verghast will raise an Armoured Regiment.
Hell there are literally Tanith transfers on the new Guard vehicle transfer sheet.

Tanith have been "attached" multiple times to larger orginizations that field stuff WAY outside their usual kit. You could say this is that. The Tanith make up the ground troops, in support of the larger tanks, which are hunting Chaos Titans or whatnot. YMMV.

Otherwise, who cares. None of the lore matters on the tabletop, otherwise you wouldn't see Primarchs, Custodes, or Knights, Assassins, or Inquisitors, EVER.

 Gert wrote:
That's not accurate at all. Is the Cadian 278th exactly the same as the first-ever Cadian Regiment raised? What about the Catachan 42nd? Or the Tallarn 112th?
Guard Regiments are raised based on what the Munitorum wants and if Verghast is ordered to raise an Armoured Regiment under the Tanith name, then Verghast will raise an Armoured Regiment.
Hell there are literally Tanith transfers on the new Guard vehicle transfer sheet.

That has nothing to do with what OP asked about. Quote:

Would it make sense for a stealth/recon regiment like the Tanith 1st to make use of a tank like the Baneblade?

OP is not asking if there could be a Tanith 42069th Armored that has a Baneblade, they are asking if a light infantry recon regiment could have a Baneblade. And the answer to that is no.

Sometimes you just need a really big distraction over there somewhere...

 ThePaintingOwl wrote:
A Baneblade would never be assigned to a light infantry regiment no matter how much time passes or how many new recruits join the regiment, that's a unit that would only be found in a heavy tank regiment.

Munitorum paperwork misfiling are not unheard of. Regiments get issued with the wrong equipment all the time. Some scribe somewhere writes Tanith 1st instead of Tanip 1st, suddenly you have yourself a baneblade.

Pretty much any Imperial fluff you want to make can be explained away with paperwork errors.

 Trickstick wrote:

 ThePaintingOwl wrote:
A Baneblade would never be assigned to a light infantry regiment no matter how much time passes or how many new recruits join the regiment, that's a unit that would only be found in a heavy tank regiment.

Munitorum paperwork misfiling are not unheard of. Regiments get issued with the wrong equipment all the time. Some scribe somewhere writes Tanith 1st instead of Tanip 1st, suddenly you have yourself a baneblade.

Pretty much any Imperial fluff you want to make can be explained away with paperwork errors.

And then it promptly breaks down because they didn't include the required maintenance infrastructure, and/or the regiment "accidentally doesn't receive it" because a Baneblade is incredibly counterproductive for a stealthy recon unit.

Gruppe-if you want to add a Baneblade, add a Baneblade. It's your army-do what you want with it.

Pardus Armored

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Eighth_Pardus_Armoured

When I built my Tanith I did 6 LRBS, a Baneblade and the awesome tank hunter from the novels all as the Pardus. Good pals these 2 regiments.

When I read it I immediatly had the thought: Taniths do what they do best: scouting. They hapen to come across a stranded Baneblade, from whatever regiment. The crew is dead, maybe through a gasleak or whatever. There is no way that thing is being recovered by anyone else within the next year and there are no loyal superheavy regiments in the vecinity. Why leave it there or destroy it, if you can use it.

Gaunt and his fellows didn't seem to be the kind of people who would not use such an advantage if it presented itself.
And whatever battle you currently fight, lorewise it can always be "we just found it, slapped some camo paint and camo nets on it and luckily MkBane and MkBlade knew how to drive that thing!"

True but if that's not special scenario type of thing then you go to realm of what's to worry about whether it makes sense on background because you can always come up with some weird one off reason. SOB & orks vs necrons? Sure why not.

At that point you might not as well ask does it make sense.