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i was wondering who everyone thinks has the best if you shoot somebody theyre gonna die gun.
im talking basic gun, not special one per squad situation.

thoughts?

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
i was wondering who everyone thinks has the best if you shoot somebody theyre gonna die gun.
im talking basic gun, not special one per squad situation.

thoughts?

warpflamers

 VladimirHerzog wrote:

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
i was wondering who everyone thinks has the best if you shoot somebody theyre gonna die gun.
im talking basic gun, not special one per squad situation.

thoughts?

warpflamers

with only a -1 ap and 12 inch range? it doesnt seem to impressive.

 usernamesareannoying wrote:

 VladimirHerzog wrote:

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
i was wondering who everyone thinks has the best if you shoot somebody theyre gonna die gun.
im talking basic gun, not special one per squad situation.

thoughts?

warpflamers

with only a -1 ap and 12 inch range? it doesnt seem to impressive.

Auto hits though which counts for a lot.

Wraithguard are pretty darn good contenders with 18 inch range crazy strength and -4 but they’re expensive

Snazzguns

Moderate range, Good strength (can wound up to T11 effectively), high volume, multi-damage, and good price point.

Good buffs with the once per game Ammo Runt, Baddrukk rerolls, and great Dedicated Transport option

A little lacking in AP, but that's about it for their downsides.

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
Wraithguard are pretty darn good contenders with 18 inch range crazy strength and -4 but they’re expensive

Don’t forget Devastating Wounds and d6 Damage. As a unit-wide weapon, I don’t think anything competes.

 alextroy wrote:

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
Wraithguard are pretty darn good contenders with 18 inch range crazy strength and -4 but they’re expensive

Don’t forget Devastating Wounds and d6 Damage. As a unit-wide weapon, I don’t think anything competes.

The only contender I can think of are the Melta-Primaris guys.

 Insectum7 wrote:

 alextroy wrote:

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
Wraithguard are pretty darn good contenders with 18 inch range crazy strength and -4 but they’re expensive

Don’t forget Devastating Wounds and d6 Damage. As a unit-wide weapon, I don’t think anything competes.

The only contender I can think of are the Melta-Primaris guys.

I'm not sure I'd count the Wraithguard or the Eradicators when he says "Troop Gun" - I think you're looking at bolters, Scout Sniper Rifles, maybe Hellblasters, Nobz Kombi-weapons, Stuff on "a basic dude" so not Terminators, Gravis, Wraith, Mega, Most Tau Suits, etc

Then Tyranid Warrior Deathspitters score well, at 24" 3 shots, S5 AP -1. The only issue is that they're not "Battleline" even though they were Troops last edition.

Necron Immortal Gaus Blasters should do pretty well too.

Breton wrote:
I'm not sure I'd count the Wraithguard or the Eradicators when he says "Troop Gun" - I think you're looking at bolters, Scout Sniper Rifles, maybe Hellblasters, Nobz Kombi-weapons, Stuff on "a basic dude" so not Terminators, Gravis, Wraith, Mega, Most Tau Suits, etc

no its ok but thanks. i suppose i really meant guns that can be take as a squad overall and not your 1 out of 10 special weapons.

agreed on immortals.
im also thinking deathmarks but the 1 shot per brings them down a bit.

Tittliewinks22 wrote:
Snazzguns

Moderate range, Good strength (can wound up to T11 effectively), high volume, multi-damage, and good price point.

Good buffs with the once per game Ammo Runt, Baddrukk rerolls, and great Dedicated Transport option

A little lacking in AP, but that's about it for their downsides.

I'll agree with Snazzguns being a contender. Flash Gitz are 100% a unit you glance at and think that they're just okay and then you take a closer look and realise how powerful they are compared to the rest of the options in the book.

 usernamesareannoying wrote:

 VladimirHerzog wrote:

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
i was wondering who everyone thinks has the best if you shoot somebody theyre gonna die gun.
im talking basic gun, not special one per squad situation.

thoughts?

warpflamers

with only a -1 ap and 12 inch range? it doesnt seem to impressive.

a squad of 10 with ahriman can kill almost any unit with no invuln in the game, and they have a threat range of 22"

Purely for background reasons?

The humble Bolter or more exotic Gauss Flayer. Both just ridiculously things to be shot by.

Hellblasters are my default for dangerous squad guns. Similar range to the bolt rifle, but much more dangerous to everyone. Including themselves of course.

Hmm, like basic basic? In a vacuum I like hellfire boltors

Depends on how you measure these things, and if you mean crunch or lore. However, the answer will likely always be something Aeldari.

Wraithguard
Warp Spiders
Fire Dragons
Shadow Spectres

They all have fantastic guns with very solid rules.