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I want to believe i'm wrong here, but i can't find anything to say otherwise.

If I shoot at a unit on an objective and the attack triggers battleshock, that unit becomes OC zero.

In my mind this was a useful way to stop an opponent scoring, however, at the start of their turn, the battleshock is lifted and then the unit scores as normal at the end of their command phase.

It would make far more sense for battle shock to last until the controlling players next command phase...?

It makes the ability far less useful - or am I playing it wrong?

It also prevents them from using strats, so that’s kind of important.

You're playing it correctly; and no, its not very useful.

You can stop that unit using stratagems as Nevelon said. It also might have a niche use if you're both on an objective and your opponent out OCs you and you draw like a Storm Hostile Objective or something. Setting a contesting unit's OC to 0 flips the objective temporarily, long enough to score a Secondary, but not long enough for a primary.

apogats wrote:
You're playing it correctly; and no, its not very useful.

You can stop that unit using stratagems as Nevelon said. It also might have a niche use if you're both on an objective and your opponent out OCs you and you draw like a Storm Hostile Objective or something. Setting a contesting unit's OC to 0 flips the objective temporarily, long enough to score a Secondary, but not long enough for a primary.

It can be useful if you have last turn to help steal an objective for primary.

The stratagem thing is pretty big and for example only way for many armies to kill necron units

 Crafter91 wrote:
I want to believe i'm wrong here, but i can't find anything to say otherwise.

If I shoot at a unit on an objective and the attack triggers battleshock, that unit becomes OC zero.

In my mind this was a useful way to stop an opponent scoring, however, at the start of their turn, the battleshock is lifted and then the unit scores as normal at the end of their command phase.

It would make far more sense for battle shock to last until the controlling players next command phase...?

It makes the ability far less useful - or am I playing it wrong?

The only thing I've found battle-shock effects to be useful is to switch off powerful stratagems for melee defenders, like overwatch, custodes fight first, necron reanimation shenanigans or free marine stratagems.

Besides that? Might as well not exist.

guess there is a plus side to battleshock not actually doing a whole lot

GW don't as yet seem to have felt it a requirement to make half the game factions outright immune to it in some way

I am just checking my understanding here too - but if a unit is below half strength, it tests every one of your Command phases for Battle-shock from then on (or at least until it changes status - either reinforced or destroyed...)?

 Jidmah wrote:

 Crafter91 wrote:
I want to believe i'm wrong here, but i can't find anything to say otherwise.

If I shoot at a unit on an objective and the attack triggers battleshock, that unit becomes OC zero.

In my mind this was a useful way to stop an opponent scoring, however, at the start of their turn, the battleshock is lifted and then the unit scores as normal at the end of their command phase.

It would make far more sense for battle shock to last until the controlling players next command phase...?

It makes the ability far less useful - or am I playing it wrong?

The only thing I've found battle-shock effects to be useful is to switch off powerful stratagems for melee defenders, like overwatch, custodes fight first, necron reanimation shenanigans or free marine stratagems.

Besides that? Might as well not exist.

Noise Marines get that for their sonic blasters. So, bringing Lucius and having 6 units of Noisy bois might be something. Triggering up to 6 different units to force them to take BS test. Some will fail and lose out using strategems in your fight phase and at end of the phase.

 whembly wrote:
Noise Marines get that for their sonic blasters. So, bringing Lucius and having 6 units of Noisy bois might be something. Triggering up to 6 different units to force them to take BS test. Some will fail and lose out using strategems in your fight phase and at end of the phase.

Sure, but then you battle-shocked 6 units while your opponent is out of CP anyways, or he is saving them for his turn. Or you are not doing any charges this turn or he doesn't have any stratagem that help him in combat to begin with. Or maybe there is just not enough of the unit left worth saving after it was shot by a whole unit of noise marines.

So, as I said, there absolutely is an advantage in very specific situations, but those are too rare for such a central mechanic.

Do abilities that cause Battle Shock, like the Shokk Attack gun's, work in overwatch? So you could do it in your opponents turn?
AFAIK the Deff Dread can cause Battle Shock in both yours and your opponents fight phases as well, is this vaguely useful?

 PaddyMick wrote:
Do abilities that cause Battle Shock, like the Shokk Attack gun's, work in overwatch? So you could do it in your opponents turn?
AFAIK the Deff Dread can cause Battle Shock in both yours and your opponents fight phases as well, is this vaguely useful?

SAG only works during shooting.
Deff dread works, but the scenario is unlikely - either it has charged something that has survived two rounds of combat or someone charged you with a unit that failed to kill the dread.
I guess in that case you could actually hold an objective despite the enemy being there as well, but so far it hasn't happened to me and dreads are far too many points for what they do.

Ok cool, but just to be clear, SAG only works in your own shooting phase?

Deff dread rule triggers at start of fight phase - if you get charged, they take a test. But yeah it's too many points anyway you're right.