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How do!

So after the seeming success of the 40K and AoS part works, seems it’s AD&D’s turn

https://danddadventurer.hachettepartworks.com/

80 issues planned, £8.99 per issue. Only for UK/Eire for now.

Subscriber gifts seem OK. But I’m interested to see what each issue actually offers.

Looks like an extremely environmentally inefficient way to get a crate of absolute junk.

Fauxhammer has more.

https://www.fauxhammer.com/news/first-look-dungeons-dragons-adventurer/

Think I’ll give this a comfortable miss, myself. Yes dice are nice, but do I really want to be coughing up £36 a month just for dicicles in varying colours? Honestly. No. No I don’t.

Might pick up issue one though, £2 for a tinned dice set is hard to say no to.

Can't say i'm overly impressed by what's shown on the website, those subscriber gifts don't seem too good.

If there was something like card stock dungeon tiles included I think I might have bitten.

This might be the most unrealistically staged promotional image since the release of Dreadfleet in White Dwarf

Looked at fauxhammer, truly a pile of random junk and gakky articles for beginners ("how to build this class" - imagine being last in line and waiting months for yours)

What a product like this needs to be is a weekly adventure with all necessary enemy minis and preferably nice printed mats ... basically what some of the high end RPG patreons do in print&play form, but physical.

I can see perhaps some value for a school group, but even that feels a bit of a stretch.

Irritatingly there’s no group shot as we got for the GW ones, where we got to see the completed collection, and get an idea of what’s what.

If perhaps there are miniatures to come in later issues, it might be worth trying to get those as individuals, or even tip folk over to subscribing.

The pics do seem to show a rather nice looking DM Screen. But……that’s about it.

I guess it's got plenty of folk interested, Fauhammer is so slammed i've got trouble connecting and when i do i cant see the images

but dice don't sound terribly appealing once you've got the first few.

Unlike the Warhammer ones this really does seem for newcomers only which is probably not anywhere near as sustainable as newcomers + a whole bunch of grumpy old folk grabbing the minis and binning the magazine

I also kind of feel while the UK does play 5th, it's much more an American phenomenon

I think it might be that the USA is a bit hotbed of RPG gaming right now whilst the UK has lagged behind a bit; however this could be just the thing to start a load of younger people getting into the idea. Sure for adults its not a very interesting magazine, esp for experienced gamers with loads of stuff to play with already and at a stage where we are picky with dice. Newbies and younger players will gobble this kind of stuff up more readily.

I agree the GW ones are much more impressive and do certainly do well for being popular with newbies and oldies alike; however they've also got hteir own pitfalls such as potentially fewer new people getting in on "buy as you go" because they get gobbled up by eager existing fans etc... Heck some of the popular issues sell out in minutes.

Looks like WotC dropped both the printed and digital Dungeon and Dragon magazine lines, so I guess an attempt at a successor seems reasonable. Fauxhammer has a positive review on the magazine's adventures, so that's a plus for any beginning GM.

For physical goodies, I'd think that something related to the D&D Starter Sets, such as a battlemat, adventure, or NPC or town location usable with the set, would be a good idea. Their target audience of beginners would obviously have bought a D&D Starter Set, yet these sets lack maps (not that you need them), and the towns could be fleshed out more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_(magazine)

Yeah, this is junk. A 5E starter set (I'm still seeing the original one with Lost Mines of Phandalin sitting in my local Walmart) and maybe an extra set of Chessex dice would be far better than what's being offered.

OUCH!!!

Not worth it at all.

Wow. This is a hard pass.

So...a bunch of $5 dice sets and the contents of 3-4 books spread over a couple of years? Terrible deal, especially for people actually wanting to play D&D.

Not counting the FREE RULES on WoTC's web site, and the thousands of articles on how to play X class, how to DM, how to roll dice, how a pencil works...I really don't see the value in this unless you live in an area with no FLGS and no Amazon delivery...

Interesting idea, but not really enticing on the goodies it comes with. Hopefully this concept is revisited and improved.

It’s ok for a new player getting into D&D, but is light for someone invested already.
The goodies are a tough sell for sure, and the coins are fancy, but that’s about it.

Depends what’s inside, if they where planing a campaign that starts out simple and slowly unfolds as you go that would be cool.

Is there any word of a new 10th edition 40K release from Hachette, yet?

Nowt so far, but I don’t think the current run has yet completed.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Nowt so far, but I don’t think the current run has yet completed.

Oh, that's hilarious.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Nowt so far, but I don’t think the current run has yet completed.

Latest issue to arrive is #75.

 Sacredroach wrote:
So...a bunch of $5 dice sets and the contents of 3-4 books spread over a couple of years? Terrible deal, especially for people actually wanting to play D&D.

That's what partworks are. The GW ones are the only exception.

Yeah, not sure about that. Given it seems like half the contents are dice and Hatchette seem wisely to be avoiding showing the massive mountains of dice that you'd have at the end I think I'd rather just spend the money on books. There's perfectly good D&D starter kits and you'd get a decent collection of rulebooks pretty quick with a £35 a month spend.

Also are those plastic models with Issue 4 the final product? Because they look atrocious. £1.99 kids magazine quality.

 The Phazer wrote:
Yeah, not sure about that. Given it seems like half the contents are dice and Hatchette seem wisely to be avoiding showing the massive mountains of dice that you'd have at the end I think I'd rather just spend the money on books. There's perfectly good D&D starter kits and you'd get a decent collection of rulebooks pretty quick with a £35 a month spend.

Also are those plastic models with Issue 4 the final product? Because they look atrocious. £1.99 kids magazine quality.

They’re standees, quite popular for games for years. Also big seller for anime and games as well.

Looks awful value - especially if only as many pages as the average warhammer hachette one. A decent magazine with lots of content and no dice for ~£6 would be way better.

No info about the other 76 issues.
Only ones shown are crappy plastic stand-ins and a couple of dice sets (is it just me or the "gold" dices are just transparent green?).
"Premium" subcription items are 5 crappy coins, each one costing more than the actual 5e rulebook.

There's no way this collection won't get cancelled shortly after release...
The worst thing is that months ago there was a "test release" that looked way better.

This looks like incredibly poor value for money even compared to Hachette's other partworks, and the Fauxhammer article trying to hype it up reads like a paid promotion.

A full sub is going to cost over £700 if it has a similar run to other partworks. You could instead buy the D&D starter set, the trio of core rule books (in a fancy box with a DM's screen), a hardback adventure book and 6 sets of dice for £130 - that's more than enough to keep a group playing for a long time, and you have hundreds of pounds left over if you decide you need more stuff further down the line. (I normally wouldn't even suggest new players buy that much, just the £20 starter set is enough for the first few months!)

Part of the appeal is to those outside our Nerdosphere. Kids who might be dimly aware of AD&D, where £7-8 a week is pocket money treat spending.

Those kids who, other than online, wouldn’t know where to best start.

That’s the hook for the GW ones, though of course even a cursory look at GW’s main website also makes the Hachette works Really Decent Value, provided you can get every issue you want (such as skilled singles buying. Or just subscribing).

Is AD&D gonna match the GW ones in value? Nope. Not at a chance. Not even close. But that’s not to say it can’t find some sort of market.

An interesting idea, but got to agree with the general sentiment that it seems pretty overpriced and that what you get is not exactly inspiring. Maybe it will improve but you would assume they would try and show it at its best in the early issues.

Even an A4 sheet of cardboard dungeon (or other environment) floorplans with each issue would have improved it a little.

never fully got my head around a RPG needing models in the first place to be honest - but then I started playing in a collage canteen where we had to pack up quickly.

some of the older D&D books were very nice, very nice background, hated the rules, there are far better

but really struggling to see what 'value' this adds, I mean probably five of six issues of what they did with GW is all the baddies you need, then another dozen for different player character models

inside the magazine? I guess a few play throughs, character creation (and pre-provided getting started ones) then its really just scenarios, and even thats a struggle

injection moulded terrain could work, but if Hachette wanted this they could have done worse than work with GW again for a custom Mordhiem version with the RPG side based on WHFRP.. at least they would likely shift a lot more of them