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For a model like that I'm fine with a tactical rock as the effects need a few contact points at different positions/orientations to be structurally sound
Valkyrie wrote: Not sure why people are complaining about a rock, would the same people also complain if he didn't have any base decor?
As the first person here to mention it (and therefore chief complainer), I would absolutely zero issues if this model (or literally any other for that matter) had no base decor. A rock, or in this case lump of concrete with a piece of rebar sticking out of it, adds nothing to the miniature. Look at all the models in the GW range posed on tactical scenery and tell me how many of them are genuinely enhanced by its presence.
That’s very much a subjective opinion, some of the stuff GW has done with tactical rocks has been great, I think there are loads of good examples and few bad ones. This one I see as a way to show him appearing in mid air, it was used to add hight generally to the pose. Not the best but overall the design is very clever and again by gw, the use of negative space is very clever.
Saying you don't like the rock is just like saying you don’t like the shape of the head or how they’ve painted it. It’s not a fault with the model, it’s just not to your taste.
The big problem I have with their tactical rocks is that they don't fit my basing scheme most of the time. I'm all for including stuff to put on the bases and having the miniature standing on stuff as long as its not molded to parts of the model itself. So for example the Votann Kahl or Einhyr Champion are also standing on rocks but if I want to use something else for basing I can just swap out the rocks for something else. The Grymnir on the other hand has both his feet molded on the rocks so I have to take out the saw to separate them.
And with this guy it very much looks like the feet will be molded on the rocks and with the way they are posed it looks quite hard to get them off
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You’ll be able to field both forces in Combat Patrol games, whether you pick them up as boxed sets or individual kits.
The both forces parts isn't talking about admech and necrons but about both the admech combat patrols instead and the fact they say you can pick both up as boxed sets makes me think the old one will stay available? So two Admech combat patrols?
Whether or not that is true the fact Admech got a new one (and not just Necrons who never had rules for their old one in the first place) means any other faction could also get a new CP with their codex
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We always get the prices on monday. GW puts them out. It's public info. No need for rumours, leaks etc. GW posts it out themselves for anybody to check who cares
Link?
That’s something I’d like to bookmark instead of waiting for others to get around to reposting.
Edit: Preferably the US $ prices if they are in different spots. Or the search terms people use to locate the info.
You can change the country and language in the top right but as far as I know US doesn't get price lists there.
But you can still get the UK/EU lists and compare on the webstore to find out US prices
Danny76 wrote: Going back to the redacted Codex.
I believe the last redacted showed Chaos or xenos symbol behind the words right? And this one is the Imperial Eagle, so it’s probably a loyalist one.
That’s my guess.
Personally, EC won’t be right in the middle of an Edition.
The others who got their Primarchs were all bookending editions weren’t they? At least in the most recent ones (I don’t remember Magnus and the Thousand Sons book offhand, but all the others certainly seemed to be).
Thousand sons were released with Wrath of Magnus if I remember correctly which was November 2016 so pretty much end of 7th which went from May 2014 to June 2017.
Death Guard were obviously start of 8th as they were part of the starter box.
And World Eaters are end of 9th again.
Malika2 wrote: Will there also be a plastic Thunderhawk comin’?
Well, no rumour of that, but Valrak has been very much right repeatedly the last year. If his sources hint there's 2 coming it's not something to immediately discredit.
Also its really not that surprising anymore. 9th had both Angron and the Lion and 7th had both Magnus and Guilliman. If you don't go by edition but actual time its an even closer grouping with Magnus, Guilliman and Mortarion all being released within a year (November 2016 to September 2017) and Angron and the Lion within 5 months in 2023. The long time between those two groups is more surprising
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Space wolves will likely take until the end of the edition but should be getting big things.
Blood Angels with new Sanguinary Priest and Sanguinary Guard but no idea when they will release
Dark Angels, in addition to the old rumours about Deathwing stuff they will get a new combat patrol: five hellblasters, ten intercessors, three bladeguard and gravis captain. There will also be a new upgrade sprue
Horus Heresy should get a new battlebox but Valrak still wants so get some more information bevor telling more.
Kill Team scouts vs SS will be next preorder on the 9th
Tau will get a big release for Kroot, also a new melee etherial? Either new combat patrol or new launch box with 20 new kroot, 2 new characters, cavalry and a big gun all dedicated to kroot
Looks like some new terrain @ timestamp 2.43 (stacked, right-hand side of image) and @ 3.50 (single, right-hand side again).
A new container, with two different hatch/door designs ?
Nicely spotted, could just be for in-house photos but also seems like it's designed to would work well for injection moulding. Could be for a future Kill Team terrain release, since the terrain set for the Scouts vs SS set is a new rendition of the old sector mechanicus terrain I wouldn't be surprised if they also make a new rendition of the munitorum containers
Space wolves will likely take until the end of the edition but should be getting big things.
Blood Angels with new Sanguinary Priest and Sanguinary Guard but no idea when they will release
Dark Angels, in addition to the old rumours about Deathwing stuff they will get a new combat patrol: five hellblasters, ten intercessors, three bladeguard and gravis captain. There will also be a new upgrade sprue
Horus Heresy should get a new battlebox but Valrak still wants so get some more information bevor telling more.
Kill Team scouts vs SS will be next preorder on the 9th
Tau will get a big release for Kroot, also a new melee etherial? Either new combat patrol or new launch box with 20 new kroot, 2 new characters, cavalry and a big gun all dedicated to kroot
Valrak elaborated a bit more on the 40k rumours in his newest video:
Dark Angels:
The boxset with terminators, deathwing knights and belial seems to be an army set thats coming earlier than the full DA release. Should be coming in January.
DA upgrade kit will be like the Black Templar and Cadian upgrades and apparently will have Ravenwing upgrade parts in there.
Tau:
One of the kroot characters is riding something and the melee ethereal seems to be a commemorative series model, could be the new store birthday model for next year?
The rest of the video is just theorizing and not actual rumours anymore
New Valrak rumour video: Dark Angel boxset: Will be out in February with preorder likely in late January Contents are Belial, 10 Terminators, 5 Deathwing Knights and the Codex
No info if there is a upgrade sprue inside but the contents are slightly cheaper than other army sets so I would say its likely
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where did you find this on the site? i'm trying to point someone to it and it's not in the downloads section (unless i'm blind which isn't impossible or even unlikely).
Its the very first entry in the 40k download section for me, under key downloads at the top.
Whats interesting is that these very much look like back of the box images but then why are both Belial and Asmodai on the same one?
The rumoured DA boxset only has Belial in it if I remember correctly? So either that changed or there might be a Dark Angels character box?
Edit: likely not the back of a box but the codex instead
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Love that upgrade sprue and hope we'll get those for every chapter (or at least for BA/SW)
Also if we estimate the price for Belial/Deathwing Knights/Upgrade sprue based on existing kits and add the codex and datacard prices, the army set would have about 312€ inside which at the last army set prices of 170€ would be a 46% discount. The last few army sets had about 43% discount so seems believable.
The assumed prices are: 35€ for Belial as he should be a bit more expensive than the pushfit Terminator Librarian, 55€ for the Deathwing Knights (same as the Terminators), 27€ for the upgrade sprue (same as the Cadian and BT ones) and the same prices for the Codex and Datacards as the current stuff so 46€ and 12€
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For anyone interested and who is also mixing up which SM kits use which shoulder pads like me the DA upgrade sprue has the following shoulder pads:
6 Tacticus shoulders pads on the bottom right with one being a sergeant variant in the middle used by Intercessors, Hellblasters, Suppressors, Desolation Marines and Infernus Marines,
5 Phobos pads also on the bottom right that are used by Incursors, Infiltrators, Reivers (and Eliminators but those can't really be switched due to the capes),
5 Gravis pads on the bottom left with one being a sergeant variant in the middle used by Heavy Intercessors, Eradicators and Inceptors,
3 Elite Gravis pads on the top left with one being a sergeant variant in the middle used by Aggressors,
5 Terminator pads on the top left with three being ornate variants in the middle used by Terminators,
3 Elite Tacticus pads on the top right used by Outriders and Bladeguard Veterans
What we don't have pads for are Sternguard Veterans, Assault Intercessors and Jump Pack Intercessors as they use a kind of pad with a full guard? on the trim instead of just being on the front half like the Elite Tacticus version.
Also the Scouts which use trimless pads.
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The reveal is literally Belial, the Companions, and the upgrade frame...which Lewis had mentioned already during the last stream.
It's an updated iconic character, a completely new unit, a quite large upgrade set, an army box, and the codex reveal. Alongside a video for it.
I wonder just what you consider a big reveal if somehow that isn't much to you.
I would have considered an Old World army box as a "huge reveal"...even if they had already been leaked.
I would have considered an announcement of Solar Auxilia a "huge reveal".
I would have considered a reveal of something Kroot as "huge".
I would have considered a reveal of either of the Order/Death Warbands for Warcry to be "huge".
There's a ton of things I would have considered "huge".
I do not consider an army set, featuring a single new unit, a resculpted character and an upgrade set mentioned before on stream, and a unit we already had seen(the Deathwing Knights) along with an army book with recycled artwork that is known to be the next codex coming to be "huge".
As a reminder, this is what the Sunday Preview said:
We’re off to hang our stockings and finish all of our last-minute preparations, but you won’t be without articles to read on Warhammer Community in the gap between Christmas and New Year. Tune in tomorrow for a huge reveal, followed by something special on Boxing Day. Throughout the week, there will be teases for what’s coming in 2024, as well as the result of this year’s Miniature of the Year vote.
YMMV, but "army set for a space marine faction that's the next codex to come" isn't "huge reveal" material to me.
I also don't really consider it "huge" (maybe they switched this with the Old World boxsets since DA leaked that morning? But then again the TK box also leaked a while ago)
But if you consider a singe Warcry warband "huge" then you can't say a resculped character, a completely new unit, a great upgrade sprue and an army set (with not only a new unit but also that resculpted character and two of the new upgrade sprues) isn't "huge". Just because they aren't interesting to you doesn't mean three new kits and an army set aren't objectively more than a single warcry warband.
As I said personally I would have expected the TOW boxsets when they talked about huge (since that is realistically the only other reveal we should be expecting) but I wouldn't say its outride wrong for them to call this huge.
Exaggerated? yes but that should be expected at this point. Wrong? not really.
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Kanluwen wrote: Considering that we're months behind on Warcry? Yeah. It's "huge" to get the reveal of the Death and Order warbands. They were slated for winter 2023.
They aren't slated for winter 2023, just winter which is from December until March so we are perfectly in line of the roadmap? No idea where we are behind on that one.
Kill Team on the other hand is behind since we are just getting Salvations which was originally on Autumn on the roadmap.
The AoS roadmap is also slightly behind since that one actually said "2023 only" and we haven't gotten Dawnbringers 4 yet.
Those two are the only ones who seem to have actual delays currently.
First thought Votann but with them not on the roadmap probably something else? That spear kinda looks like a Custodes guardian spear and they are next after orks so maybe that? Also has a gun Grip on the spear so very likely a guardian spear.
Kroot
Orks?
Custodes, Orks and Tau are also the next three codexes on the roadmap so fits perfectly. Custodes and Orks probably just a single mini with Tau getting multiple kroot and an army set
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Dominar_Jameson_V wrote: Hello, I'm not sure if I should post this here or start a new thread, but apparently the latest photo from the rumour engine is a new Kroot.
People are hoping for a range refresh and expansion, and even a standalone codex.
Personally I'm against that last bit. The Tau have been written into a corner and are so one-sided. It would be interesting to see the Tau become a faction of factions with more focus on its auxiliaries.
So, what do you all make of this article? Could it just be a fancy HQ or Elite? Perhaps a Kroot Lieutenant with antique wargear?
These are the current Kroot rumours from a month ago:
Tau will get a big release for Kroot, either new combat patrol or new launch box with 20 new kroot, 2 new characters, cavalry and a big gun all dedicated to kroot. One of the kroot characters is riding something
The rider Kroot is already teased in the 2024 silhouette video, the "big gun" part could be that rumour engine from your article shown with the Krootox Rider and the other other ones are likely part of the normal kroot or the second character.
I would say its very unlikely they will get their own codex because 1. the rumours talked about a kroot release for tau, 2. the three shown silhouette fit the next three codexes which includes the Tau codex and not the redacted one and 3. even with all that they don't really have enough kits to warrant their own codex. (yeah I know World eaters also only have 6 kits but they can at least also use some CSM kits)
And with this another part of this rumour becomes true:
Tau will get a big release for Kroot, either new combat patrol or new launch box with 20 new kroot, 2 new characters, cavalry and a big gun all dedicated to kroot. One of the kroot characters is riding something.
Also a melee ethereal seems to be a commemorative series model, could be the new store birthday model for next year?
Other stuff from that rumour:
Space wolves will likely take until the end of the edition but should be getting big things.
Blood Angels with new Sanguinary Priest and Sanguinary Guard but no idea when they will release
Dark Angels, in addition to the old rumours about Deathwing stuff they will get a new combat patrol: five hellblasters, ten intercessors, three bladeguard and gravis captain. There will also be a new upgrade sprue
Horus Heresy should get a new battlebox but Valrak still wants so get some more information bevor telling more.
New Custodes Boxset, not an army set so no Codex included just models. Includes 6 Vertus Praetors, 6 Allarus Terminators, 5 Custodian Guard and a Shield Captain? He also heard that the new model is in the box and since there isn't a solo Shield captain model, you just build one out of the other kits, its likely the new model is a solo Shield Captain. The new weapon in the Melta Lance is probably there so there is actually a reason to buy it since Shield Captains aren't really rare for Custodes players as you can build one out of every box of theirs.
Two? new Chaos boxsets. One is more daemon oriented and has the Jump Attack lord in it. The other one should have Terminators and a Chaos Lord inside. Some rumours about a new Huron Blackheart model but should be taken with a lot of salt and will likely not come with the rest and the codex but later.
Tau should be getting an army set full of kroot. Kroot cavalry named Rampagers with guns on the back which pretty much sound like the current Krootox Riders.
New Valrak rumours:
Only the new stuff for the old news just watch the video or scroll up the the past rumour posts
New Dark Angels Combat Patrol: 5 Hellblasters, 10 Intercessors, 3 Bladeguard, Gravis Captain (he thinks the rumours are slightly wrong here and its 10 Heavy Intercessors instead as the Gravis Captain wouldn't make sense otherwise)
Grey Knights: Something vehicle related
Bot SW and BA getting refreshes like Dark Angels but what he hears about Blood Angels sounds "too good to be true" so will be in a seperate video
Nothing specific about Space Wolves but they will likely be at the end of the codex cycle so end of 2025/start of 2026
Adepta Sororitas (probably) getting a new boxset with a new HQ
Kroot: Not sure here if he misspoke or if he meant it this way but word for word when he is talking about the boxset "There is a Kroot HQ which again was teased in whats coming in 2024"
So that silhouette Kroot might be a HQ?
New Tau Combat Patrol: Commander Suit, Pathfinders Kill Team, Firewarriors, Devil Fish
Orks: The teased silhouette is a Mekboy in a Meksuit thats the same size as a Redemptor Dreadnought and will come in a boxset: new Mekboy, 20 Boyz, Stompa (yes that Stompa)
Other Xenos stuff in Kill Team in a future video
H.B.M.C. wrote: For all the gak he gets, he seems to be right quite often. And him being right seems to make people mad, which is irrational.
Valraks sources are one of the most trustworthy sources for years now, the only other source I trust more is Whitefang over on TGA. But what the person above you said is also true, not that his sources are wrong but that he himself has only basic knowledge (or just doesn't care) about factions that aren't his primary interest (which would mainly be Space Marines). At least thats the image I get from his videos. So for example I wouldn't be surprised if his sources just told him the Ork box would have their big robot inside and every ork robot is just a stompa for him but it could also be a Gorka-/Morkanaut instead
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