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**Platuan4th**

skeleton wrote:
Why not an overlord with sword and res orb, we have rules for that but no model. only lord with orb.

Command Barge Overlord plus Praetorian kit sword. Boom, Overlord with sword.

Assuming, of course, that the book even keeps that load out.

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H.B.M.C. wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Think people are overreading.
God forbid people have a little fun speculating.

When we at Dakka speculate, SpikeyBits and Taco BoLS salivate for content.

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The_Real_Chris wrote:
Can't see him on the store though?

Because it's not available yet, hence why the article doesn't link to a store page for it.

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Bob Lorgar wrote:
So he's an Ork that can't lift his own gun and needs help from a squiq? That won't get him beat up by the other Orks or anything...

He lifts the gun without Princess just fine in the book. This is just to improve his aim.

**Platuan4th**

Voss wrote:
Andykp wrote:

The whole point about the dark angels used to be you didn’t really know which half of them actual were the traitors. I know that the HH books have ruined that gem but maybe this is a way of going back to a state where maybe the “traitors” were right and the lion is using them to keep an eye on the dodgy as feth “loyalist” types? I hope that is the case and maybe there’s a bit more nuance to the chapter now.

That was just the fanon take. It had no basis in... anything. The Chapter DA were the loyalists, period and the end. (Well, post-retcon when they became knights and green and the traitor aspect was created out of nothing, because the traitor bit had no relevance at all to the original version of 1st/2nd edition and the Deathwing short story)

It had a basis in a single Gav Thorpe novel where it came from a very unreliable narrator that had fully fallen. Then 4Chan got a hold of it and memes do what they do and people confused the jokes for the actual fluff.

This new fluff just confirms that it was never true all along.

**Platuan4th**

Mr_Rose wrote:

3. In my head this looks like a giant version of the Dwarf Gyrocopter. Or maybe the troop transport can be like the gyrobomber but with tiny individual drop pods instead of the bombs?

The Iron Eagle Gyrocopter from Epic is sitting right there waiting eagerly for an embiggening and style update.

**Platuan4th**

leopard wrote:
40k is in its 10th iteration, the game should be nailed on perfection by now

You say this as though that was even their goal in the first place.

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Grimskul wrote:
Yeah, definitely feels pretty underwhelming at best at first glance, which sucks since the Kroot models do look legit and I'm glad that they finally expanded into auxiliaries more, so I'm worried if sales tank due to meh rules that GW are going to take the wrong lesson from this and double down on the flanderization of suits in the T'au army for their next army update/codex.

I guarantee you that the models will sell out regardless of rules quality. We whales don't care about rules.

**Platuan4th**

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
How is that overpriced? They're selling 2x as many models for less than 2x the price of what it cost 10 years ago. The prices basically have never been lower once you account for inflation and everything.

55 euros for a single model is still 55 euros for a single model, and how much are in the troop boxes? How much do you need? If you need 2 to make a proper regiment, like you would often need to do in WHFB 8th ed, then they haven't learned anything as you still need to drop 124 euros on a single regiment.

TOW is running closer to 6th ed Unit sizes than 8th Unit sizes.

**Platuan4th**

StudentOfEtherium wrote:
Matrindur wrote:
Bit late this time but heres the summary for Valraks newest video about EC:

Fulgrim
Lucius
Noise marines
New Cataphractii-based Terminators (poor WE, only ones without specific Terminators)
New Slaanesh cultist-like unit

No Eidolon
Other new HQs

Everything could change as always but should be out by the end of 2025

tbf, eighbound feel like they were supposed to be WE's terminators. in classic WE fashion, they traded the range options for even more melee violence

Red Butchers existed once, would be nice to get a 40K version.

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NM.

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Dawnbringer wrote:
Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Dawnbringer wrote:
Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Something guard and odd coming in the nearish future

Potato Cam strikes again.

It all looks really clear, to me.

My phone is five years old now. Still takes photos I can read text in.

I'm not sure you actually understand what "potatocam" means.

**Platuan4th**

Insularum wrote:
Nevelon wrote:
Lovely model.

Is the wargear OK for a cannoness? She looks right for the job.
I don't think any sisters characters can actually take hand flamers But swapping that out would be easy enough to make either a cannoness or palatine.

The Canonness with Jump Pack can take a Hand Flamer.

**Platuan4th**

Crimson wrote:
As long as the combined priest keeps all the wargear options of preacher and missionary it's fine

They already eliminated 1/3 of the model options, I doubt they'll keep the rest of the metal options.

**Platuan4th**

Shakalooloo wrote:
Platuan4th wrote:
Crimson wrote:
As long as the combined priest keeps all the wargear options of preacher and missionary it's fine

They already eliminated 1/3 of the model options, I doubt they'll keep the rest of the metal options.

The Uriah Jacobus loadout held on in the rules for the longest time!

Weird how Vorne is making the leap to generic character, but Taddeus isn't.

Don't get me started on eliminating the plasmagun missionary but not Uriah.

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Shadow Walker wrote:
Garrac wrote:
Shadow Walker wrote:
Garrac wrote:
(im already asuming skaven players will win this)

Tyranids won the last one so now is the time for the Sigmarines

My asumption is that skaven players from TOW (whoever are left after GW nerfed them to the ground) will swarm buy the box on day 1, drop the code, and then sell the sigmarine parts on ebay.

Which doesnt come as a negative saying, mind you, it will in fact make it easier for new sigmarine players to start a cheap army!

Yeah, it could happen but I suspect that the winner is already decided with all the narrative etc. prepared. Of course I can be wrong, and it will be the Skaven, which I do not mind as I like them.

They most likely have both prepared then just pull the trigger on whichever wins.

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Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Garrac wrote:
Shadow Walker wrote:
Garrac wrote:
(im already asuming skaven players will win this)

Tyranids won the last one so now is the time for the Sigmarines

My asumption is that skaven players from TOW (whoever are left after GW nerfed them to the ground) will swarm buy the box on day 1, drop the code, and then sell the sigmarine parts on ebay.

Which doesnt come as a negative saying, mind you, it will in fact make it easier for new sigmarine players to start a cheap army!

I feel as though people vastly overestimate how popular the skaven used to be in fantasy. They always seemed to be on the mid-to-lower end of popularity in my experience.

I feel like they were very popular but the actual player count was lower than the popularity due to the model count involved.

**Platuan4th**

Andykp wrote:
Crimson wrote:
Impulsor and Repulsor have their transport capacity increased. Nice!

Any idea why? I can’t see a reason it’s better but might be being thick.

To account for adding characters to units. Same reason the Rhino and Land Raiders got an increase.

**Platuan4th**

Arschbombe wrote:
usernamesareannoying wrote:
so you have to pay to pivot now... why are they going back to making things so hard?

They checked their notes from 2010 and found that people had been losing their minds over Raiders and Battlewagons getting "extra movement" when they deployed sideways. So they fixed it for 10th.

Raiders are on circular bases and are thus exempt from this change.

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Doohicky wrote:
LunarSol wrote:
Doohicky wrote:
LunarSol wrote:
It's very much for the Bladeguard to take a character.

Similarly the Repulsor upgrade to 14 is to let 6 man Gravis units take a character.

Still can't bring full Deathshroud units with a character attached though in a vehicle. I like that they fix this, but it's only fixed for certain armies (Marines)

Well, yes. They specifically changed the Impulsor and Repulsor so that's to be expected.

I thought it was quite obvious that my point was, good that they are fixing this, but really it should be done for all situations like this instead of just marines being only ones to get the fix.

I realise it's not easy as upping DG LRs has a knockon effect on should all LRs become bigger etc etc, but it should be possible to fix

Land Raiders already were made bigger. They used to only Transport 10.

**Platuan4th**

Overread wrote:

There are other parts to Apoc as well, such as changing how damage is resolved so that you get to fire back even if you're "killed" in a turn. Which with titans and insane unit counts is almost needed otherwise whoever went first would likely win entirely and - well - no one wants to spend half a day setting things up to only end it after the first half of the first turn

That's only in the nuApocalypse which uses Epic as base rules. The previous versions played exactly like the concurrent editions of 40K and had no such mechanics, so most times you sat around for an hour waiting for the other side to resolve their massive turn while just picking up your own models.

**Platuan4th**

Sotahullu wrote:
Actually, I think they did upscale Lemartes but not to primaris scale. Without those stairs he seems to be bit shorter.

That's MkX armor, he's Primaris.

**Platuan4th**

Sotahullu wrote:
... Anyway all I am saying is that Lemartes seems to be bit shorter then regular Primaris/Death Company Marine if you try to compare with and without bases decorative stairs.

Looks like he's Primaris height to me. Note, forward foot is at the same level as the left foot on the Primaris DC.

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GaroRobe wrote:
I know it’s very unlikely, but if they did release new sanguinary guard, I’d love if they were a dual kit with the Erelim. They both have winged jump packs, the only real difference would be the the torso and helmets. And weapon options I guess

Rumors are saying the new Sanguinary Guard don't have winged packs anymore.

**Platuan4th**

GaroRobe wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
Still no sanguinor or sanguinary guard :/

Also is it me or is the priest looking more apothecary like than priest like?

This was the last iteration

And this was the iteration before that:

They've looked like Apothecaries way more often than they haven't.

**Platuan4th**

Gold is supposed to be how Blood Angels make their Artificier armor.

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Fayric wrote:
so there should be some inquisitor model, or even Solomon Lok incoming. Just weird they have not announced him.

Lok died at Anphelion and GW only wants to update "living" characters.

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cuda1179 wrote:
Manfred von Drakken wrote:
cuda1179 wrote:
I there a faction that doesn't have access to jump packs anymore? I kind of liked that not everyone had everything.

Imperial Guard (for now?)
Death Guard
Dark Eldar (technically)
Grey Knights (technically)
Daemons
Genestealer Cults
Imperial Agents
Squats
Thousand Sons
Tyranids (technically)
World Eaters
T'au (if you don't count battlesuits)
Chaos/Imperial Knights

Hey, wait a minute, Dark Eldar have Scourges. Are those jump packs?

Manfred seems to be taking the term "Jump Packs" very literally.

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chaos0xomega wrote:
IMO the real tragedy is none of the transfers are for the Lamenters, especially considering that the recent fluff is that they have started suffering from the Black Rage

"Recent". Badab just straight had them using the Blood Angels Codex in 5th.

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Segersgia wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
The fluff about them falling to the Black Rage only popped up as of Indomitus Crusade era, has nothing to do with what codex they used or the Badab War.

They have a death company in the Badab Book.

Yup. They've been experiencing the curse for centuries.