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2024/05/24 10:41:00
Subject: Talisman 5th edition coming from Hasbro/Avalon Hill
Earlier today the lucky visitors to the Play: Festival del Gioci in Modena were treated to the global reveal of the new edition of Talisman from Avalon Hill!
*Thanks to Federico Burchianti for the top image
Designer, Doug Hopkins, along with the hosts from Crossover Universo Nerd showed us just what’s in the box and there’s certainly a lot to take in.
*Thanks to Riccardo Rognoni for the image above
The game was then put up for preorder on the Hasbro Pulse website slated for release on the 26th of June!
You will be able to play Talisman in English, Italian, French, German and Spanish PLUS you can order the Polish localisation direct from Rebel.pl.
This begs the question as to what the seventh localisation is, as Hasbro have registered 7 EANs for the game and its expansion Talisman: Alliances. Any guesses?
I’m sure there will be a lot more discussion in the coming weeks, and I’ll certainly add some thoughts about it all once my brain has settled down a bit from all of the excitement!
In the mean time, just feast your eyes on these minis!
It's been a while but basically you pick a character each having different advantages or disadvantages.
Move around the board have encounters, some fights, some tricks, some random, some shops.
Gain upgrades in your power, your magic, magic items etc then, when you feel ready, move to the inner ring. Things get tougher and when you feel ready move to the center ring, fight through a gauntlet to defeat the dragon in the center.
The advantage, besides that fact it's been around since the 80s and 3 generations have played it, is simple mechanics that still give the feel of an epic D&D campaign with leveling up.
The kids version, Talisman Legendary Tales is a big hit in my house.
2024/06/07 17:52:14
Subject: Talisman 5th edition coming from Hasbro/Avalon Hill
I played a bit of the previous editions. It’s not a pure procedural game, but is kinda close. Roll a die and go one of two directions, and deal with something from a random card deck. Kill things to raise stats, collect gear, and hope you get strong enough to survive.
I always felt it was too random and not enough valid player agency, but they are on the 5th edition, so some people obviously like it.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: It's been a while but basically you pick a character each having different advantages or disadvantages.
Move around the board have encounters, some fights, some tricks, some random, some shops.
Gain upgrades in your power, your magic, magic items etc then, when you feel ready, move to the inner ring. Things get tougher and when you feel ready move to the center ring, fight through a gauntlet to defeat the dragon in the center.
The advantage, besides that fact it's been around since the 80s and 3 generations have played it, is simple mechanics that still give the feel of an epic D&D campaign with leveling up.
The kids version, Talisman Legendary Tales is a big hit in my house.
Thanks for the summary
I've actually been thinking of picking up the new version of HeroQuest for a while. I did play that back in the 90s though don't remember how it plays. Did enjoy it at the time. Now I'm wondering which of the two games to prioritise. Any thoughts on that?
I guess the two games aren't that similar. HeroQuest is a dungeon crawler and Talisman seems more like a traditional boardgame.
2024/06/07 18:27:37
Subject: Talisman 5th edition coming from Hasbro/Avalon Hill
I'd add it's definitely a beer and pretzels game, decision making is limited. Left or right. Use a magic time or no.
But again at the end of it having leveled up your character, gained magic items, taken chances, you FEEL like you've had an epic quest in 2 hours. And I think that's part of the appeal.
2024/06/07 18:33:54
Subject: Talisman 5th edition coming from Hasbro/Avalon Hill
Played the game alot as a kid, and daily for a period in the 90s. The freedom to move around the boards features, and the many magical items and hangarounds you could gather gave it a great feeling of adventure.
A huge bonus at the time was the glorious artwork by Gary Chalk through out the game in the early editions.
The models for this edition look like a wast improvement from 3rd+ editions. Give me a good sting of nostalgia (not that the early edition even came with models in the box).
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Talisman is great, but it looks like there's a possible quality downgrade with the 5th edition.
Art isn't as good as 4th and no toad miniatures for starters. Possibly card coins instead of plastic?
I don't like the sound of simplifying the rules given how simple the gameplay is to start with, it's roll-and-move, the fun comes from the complexity of all the random encounters and exploration.
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2024/06/08 19:28:59
Subject: Talisman 5th edition coming from Hasbro/Avalon Hill
Yeah I am not liking the new art style for this edition, the simlified text on the board is a nice touch though.
The models look like a vast improvement as well, 4th edition had real difficulty keeping a consistent scale between characters, to the point where I have just redesigned them all and 3D printed them using Heroforge.
Will be interesting to see what expansions they tackle, playing with all four corner expansions is great fun, if not a little redundant.
Taste differs. I think it's okay for children but otherwise IMO he was one of the worst artists GW ever hired.
To be fair I was a kid when I was awestruck by his ilustrations for Lone Wolf, and soon after we got Talisman. I just had a google for his Talisman stuff, and realise its quite varied quality, but in general I still love his ability to draw characters that are ugly and grim rater than looking like hollywood actors. Especially his heavily inked Lone Wolf illustations still looks pretty sharp to me.
I dont get the feeling his stuff is for children, and probably 80% of every artist GW hired have a more juvenile and less gritty expression than Chalk (and thats not a problem, it supposed to look that way).
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Talisman: One of those "for the kids" roll-and-move boardgames. Takes hours to play. Better games out there. I tried a solo game of playing all the characters at the same time, though. That was amusing.
HeroQuest: Gateway game for "kids and casuals" to hobby dungeoncrawl boardgames. You can also use the mini's for other games.
Talisman RPG: Generic fantasy RPG. Better off getting a D&D starter set. Picked up the playtest rulebook b/c I thought I could play a Ghoul (: but the included adventure implies Ghouls aren't invited.
Have 'em all, got 'em cheap. The 4th edition is pretty much gone, although expansions may still be at Miniature Market. HeroQuest is still in-print and wait for a holiday sale from Amazon. IIRC, I got a copy for $35.
EDIT: Some less popular 4th expansions on sale at MM. Cheap.
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I never picked up this game, haven't played the video games either. For those who have: What's the gameplay like? Worth picking up?
My group played 3rd edition (I think) a lot before I moved away. The game is fun, but it takes a long time to play. It's a 3-4 hour commitment. By the last hour, there are generally 2 players battling to get to the finish line (center of the board), with the rest playing spoiler or just fething around with each other as they are out of the running. When someone gets reasonably ahead of the rest of the pack, they generally win.
I played the HELL out of the video game version on my iPad when I was traveling for work in my previous job. It translates to tablet very well.
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2024/06/29 15:11:10
Subject: Re:Talisman 5th edition coming from Hasbro/Avalon Hill
If you loved Diablo but wanted something with even less skill, mystery, charm, elegance, and fun, then Talisman is for you, especially if you ALSO dig 80s game design where you basically need a whole weekend to play and it will only be enjoyable for 0-2 of your 4 or so players.
Ian Sturrock wrote: If you loved Diablo but wanted something with even less skill, mystery, charm, elegance, and fun, then Talisman is for you, especially if you ALSO dig 80s game design where you basically need a whole weekend to play and it will only be enjoyable for 0-2 of your 4 or so players.
(Personally I also hated Diablo.)
I love the early 80's game design philosophes...Block Mania and Merchant of Venus are two of my favorites. I also enjoy The Fury of Dracula, Wiz-War and Rommel in the Desert.
Talisman hits that itch. We only play 1-2 times a year, but enjoy the time reminiscing about those early bold days of gaming where a lot of rules were redundant, nonsensical or eventually contradictory.
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2024/07/15 00:11:51
Subject: Re:Talisman 5th edition coming from Hasbro/Avalon Hill
So, just a random post, but my wife and I played a bunch of this new edition this weekend, and it was actually incredibly fun. A few of the seemingly tiny changes actually, dramatically improve the game over earlier editions. Have even some control over your movement via Fate points really decreases the tap dancing around a space you really need to land on. It still isn't a deep, complex experience or anything, but I'll gladly keep up with the new expansions for a casual, fun game-night.
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2024/07/15 02:38:48
Subject: Re:Talisman 5th edition coming from Hasbro/Avalon Hill
Kid_Kyoto wrote: So I'm actually in the US, does anyone know if this is Amazon only or is it in stores? No luck so far finding it in a shop.
Gamestop carried Heroquest, maybe check there?
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2024/07/15 03:49:56
Subject: Talisman 5th edition coming from Hasbro/Avalon Hill
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The 4th edition is pretty much gone, although expansions may still be at Miniature Market. HeroQuest is still in-print and wait for a holiday sale from Amazon. 
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