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Geifer wrote: That reluctance is kind of understandable though. One of the various issues the MCU had in recent times is that the big names people followed for a decade have had their run. And with it the movies (and shows) lose draw. Between substantial technical issues and the meandering multiverse metaplot (is there even a metaplot?) that has yet to get people invested, I don't think that's something they can really afford right.
To me it looks like they might finally have a winner on their hand with this team up. Would be pretty ironic if they decided to start bumping off characters with this movie.
In the 2010s Marvel Comics did a version of "Crisis on Infinite Earths" called "Secret Wars" no relation to the 80s toy tie in. In it the Marvel multiverse was destroyed until the 616 Earth and Ultimate Earth were the last two standing.
It had a neat gimmick, universes would collide and destroy each other, but you could save yours by destroying the other universe. Creating agonizing choices for the Avengers.
Point being, Marvel announced there's a Secret Wars film coming, so it seems the meta plot is set up the multiverse then KA-BOOM! it.
Of course in the comics it's already back, but that's another story.
I thought they might reveal de Fontaine as being Madame HYDRA, especially when Void is peaking into her past, as the MCU version of the reveal that it was actually Zemo in the original story. They wouldn't actually call her Madame HYDRA but there would have been something connecting her to the organization.
Well don't they basically reveal that...
Spoiler:
Valentina Allegra de Fontaine is in fact another Red Room operative?
A Russian asset? In US intelligence! Marvel movies are just crazy!
On an unrelated note here is a photo of Tulsi Gabbard.
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I thought the flashback was supposed to show that Valentina Allegra de Fontaine was Russian and connected to the Red Room. Turns out they were speaking Italian and it was just there to show why she's so cynical. And apparently I cannot tell the difference between Russian and Italian
So no Russian intelligence assets in the MCU government. That would just be too crazy.
On an unrelated note, here is a picture of Tulsi Gabbard.
Captain America - Sam Wilson
Falcon - I can't remember his name
Black Panther 2 - I can't remember her name, Shuri? Was that it?
War Machine
Ant Man - because why not
