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A question for the brain trust.

Could a non-mounted banner bearer who is slain, pass on the banner to a mounted model who is base contact and not engaged in a fight? Both are warriors, so rules as written I don't see why you couldn't although I've never seen it mentioned, talked about or indeed done. Is it just an unlikely scenario that rarely if ever occurs?
Furthermore, could an orc pass the banner on to a troll? A troll is a warrior. Could an elf pass a banner on to an ent or indeed a great eagle? Again, both are warriors and it says nothing about being unable to pass a banner to an member of an allied contingent.
Where does the madness stop?

The FAQ has nothing to say on this scenario, and I know most of the time with this game you're meant to use a degree of common sense with these sort of decisions.
So I turn to you Dakka. What's your thoughts on this.

Interestingly enough I'd say Cavalry and Monster should be possible. I reread the rules and indeed it only says warrior. The older rulebook also said you effectively replace the other model with the banner bearer, implying you'd take a model of the same type, so orc-> orc. The sentence is not in the current book, though.
The eagle should raise an eyebrow I'm sure. You have the sentence about the banner must be able to be seen, which is debatable when it's in eagle claws or up in the sky .

There's also the sentence that you have to take a proper model from your collection with a banner. So your Ent better has the banner modelled or your opponent would be right in denying the switch.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
Interestingly enough I'd say Cavalry and Monster should be possible. I reread the rules and indeed it only says warrior. The older rulebook also said you effectively replace the other model with the banner bearer, implying you'd take a model of the same type, so orc-> orc. The sentence is not in the current book, though.

Yeah I had to re-read it a few times just to make sure I had read it right and the I wasn't fooling myself, but yeah rules as written there's nothing stopping you.
There's also the interesting scenario where a Mordor troll with Drums could theoretically get passed a banner. So you could have a drummer banner troll.
Plenty of amusing Warrior models to pass a banner on to. Wargs, Warg Marauders, Dwellers in the Dark, Khandish Chariots

The eagle should raise an eyebrow I'm sure. You have the sentence about the banner must be able to be seen, which is debatable when it's in eagle claws or up in the sky .

There's also the sentence that you have to take a proper model from your collection with a banner. So your Ent better has the banner modelled or your opponent would be right in denying the switch.

Definitely an area where some common sense should be applied. For a friendly game, I'd be quite happy just to roll with it even if my opponent didn't have the correct model. Mostly because it's A) a friendly game, and B) It's funny. How often will you get to see an ent or some such thing with a banner?


Little bit of blue-tac goes a long way.

From the return of King DVD I remember a concept Art of the Troll chieftain with a back Banner, so there's that.

Still sceptical about animals with banners, but you do you. We know the wargs talked to orcs so why not. Spiders, though?

Always was a bit miffed that Khand has no banners when every single guy has a banner on his back

I'm pretty sure it says in the rules somewhere that it has to be a model that can take the banner as a wargear option. So no eagles or trolls carrying banners, no matter how funny it might seem.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:Still sceptical about animals with banners, but you do you. We know the wargs talked to orcs so why not. Spiders, though?

Look, a spider has 8 limbs. If it can't work out how to handle a banner, it's of no use to me and can go home.
I do agree though, you'd expect something to at least need hands to wave a banner around.

Always was a bit miffed that Khand has no banners when every single guy has a banner on his back

I know, right!? Doesn't make any sense at all.

ZergSmasher wrote:I'm pretty sure it says in the rules somewhere that it has to be a model that can take the banner as a wargear option. So no eagles or trolls carrying banners, no matter how funny it might seem.

Hmm I'm not seeing that anywhere I'd expect too. Not in the banner section, nor the fight phase section.
I wonder if that was maybe a previous iteration of the rule? I'd be tempted to shoot an email off to FAQ support, but this late in the edition, they're hardly going to bother making a ruling on it.