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It would be scary if the prints aren't possible right now because they're in a tight spot with the first one.

 BrookM wrote:
It would be scary if the prints aren't possible right now because they're in a tight spot with the first one.

Yeah, that's the feel I get from this rushed 2nd kickstarter. Yuck.

Not sure if rushed is the proper word though, this is something they have been wanting to run for well over a year or so now from what I recall from previous KS updates.

But, I guess we'll see how this is going to pan out soon enough, just twelve more days until.. something-day!

Well, they have been talking about this for a while. However, it's that time of year and they've probably been looking through their finances and have realised that they've burnt through more of the money than they thought with the resculpts and scrapping of product when they decided they didn't like it.

The fact that it's only a two week campaign does suggest that they're more focused on getting a cash injection than doing things correctly and delivering fully on the six armies that they're now talking about. Two weeks, starting from the end of March means that they'll likely have the cash in their bank by mid-April to keep funding the production of TGG.

Of course, this may all just be seeing RH in a bad light, when they've thought it all out and decided to do a short campaign to try and avoid the mid-campaign lull. With any suggestion that they need this campaign now to keep the company going just being down to not being native English speakers who're just super excited to get the news out there and update backers as quickly as possible.

Had absolutely nothing so far from this one which is disapointing and so I won't be backing any more of their KStarters - I may get Dark Elf and Sisters minis via retail depending on the final prodcut and if it ever arrives.

I like their retail Dark Elves alot but lines like "to ensure the future of RH" is a major turn off.

I think to equate "to ensure the future of RH" with OMG they are out of money and won't be able to fulfil the TTG KS is probably wrong (although it might not be)

I think it's much more likely an unfortunate (possibly translation related) statement along the lines of 'give us pledges and we'll make all sorts of new cool stuff'

or at worse it indicates that enough of the TTG money is gone that they'd have to scale back to their previous size and have to let the extra 3d artists, tumblr techs and (not too good) communications folk go,

but of course nobody but them knows, I guess we'll wait and see

I think assuming poor translation/communication is not a bad guess... I mean, we've had plenty of time to realize they're not the best at communication.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
I think assuming poor translation/communication is not a bad guess... I mean, we've had plenty of time to realize they're not the best at communication.

Understatement of the year, mate.

They mollified me for a day or two's worth of good will by giving me some of my stuff early on them.

With a rather flexible interpretation of "early", of course.

From the comments, oh wow, emphasis mine:

Well I feel I must leave a comment (first time commenting).

After the previous update stating that wave 2 has been shipped and everyone should have received their models by now, I felt it appropriate to email RH as I had not received my wave 2.

I received a reply stating that some of the troops were 'out of stock' and that is why I have not received my shipment.

First of all how are these 'out of stock' what monumental error occurred during production planning for not enough models to be produced to cover backers. So the update of all wave 2 has been shipped was a lie!

Second I was given no time frame as to when I would receive my wave 2.

Third they obviously couldn't even read my email correctly as they headed the email with some else's name!

I was very looking forward to their second kickstarter however I am not sure now if I dare back it, especially after the comment from the latest update 'For RH to survive'.

Has anyone else not received their wave 2 and been told the same thing?

This has made me quite upset.

I really should open my W2 box. I'll have time in 2 weeks. I've been putting it off since it seems like there's a gakload in there, and quite a bit of time and concentration to inventory and QA it all. And of course, 40k isn't so much of a thing for me now as it was 2(?) years ago.

You know, I never saw this myself and I didn't go in on this KS. I just noticed this miniature though on the front, and I would have loved to of had it.

I'm scared to contemplate even trying to acquire one somehow, especially with this company handles things. Can I get one retail?

(I've kinda lurked this thread since the start, ugh.)

 BrookM wrote:
From the comments, oh wow, emphasis mine:

Well I feel I must leave a comment (first time commenting).

After the previous update stating that wave 2 has been shipped and everyone should have received their models by now, I felt it appropriate to email RH as I had not received my wave 2.

I received a reply stating that some of the troops were 'out of stock' and that is why I have not received my shipment.

First of all how are these 'out of stock' what monumental error occurred during production planning for not enough models to be produced to cover backers. So the update of all wave 2 has been shipped was a lie!

Second I was given no time frame as to when I would receive my wave 2.

Third they obviously couldn't even read my email correctly as they headed the email with some else's name!

I was very looking forward to their second kickstarter however I am not sure now if I dare back it, especially after the comment from the latest update 'For RH to survive'.

Has anyone else not received their wave 2 and been told the same thing?

This has made me quite upset.

Wow, that sounds pretty bad. I just calculated, I'm yet to receive 120$ worth of miniatures. Any time now.

I've issued them 3 emails, two Pledge Manager messages and attempted to live chat with them as from what I can tell, nothing from my single wave shipping order is still waiting to be produced (ie I only ordered troop/command boxes for the Jail Birds, the freebies, and heroines which are all on the list of completed minis as far as I can tell) so why I haven't had an order issued is baffling me.

I haven't managed to get a single reply from them yet through any channel.

The update that freebies would issue was nice to see, but what about stuff that should be ready to ship now?! Will it come out when they issue the freebies? Will it be later?

Brooks last post about them 'running out of stock' is freaking me out that this is a $200 odd dollar gamble that has gone down the drain.

Ouch.

Honestly if they allow this to happen their next KS deserves to fail.

 Azazelx wrote:
With a rather flexible interpretation of "early", of course.

Well, early in the sense of "before my other stuff"

Also that's quite a disturbing story... especially considering I have 20 troops in with the rest of my girls.

 Stormwall wrote:


You know, I never saw myself and I didn't go in on this KS. I just noticed this miniature though on the front, and I would have loved to of had it.

I'm scared to contemplate even trying to acquire one somehow, especially with this company handles things. Can I get one retail?

(I've kinda lurked this thread since the start, ugh.)

She'll be going on retail sooner or later, I managed to get one myself through the reopening of the pledges late last year.

 Haljin wrote:
Wow, that sounds pretty bad. I just calculated, I'm yet to receive 120$ worth of miniatures. Any time now.

 FrothingMuppet wrote:
The update that freebies would issue was nice to see, but what about stuff that should be ready to ship now?! Will it come out when they issue the freebies? Will it be later?

Brooks last post about them 'running out of stock' is freaking me out that this is a $200 odd dollar gamble that has gone down the drain.

It just occurred to me that the potential reason for certain items being out of stock right now may be because they did reopen sales at several points, including late last year, with some nice incentives to get those models and other stuff shipped out ASAP. It may be that the troops were also ordered en-masse and shipped to those who were eligible to receive them at that point. Mind, speculation on my part and all that, but it would explain why certain items may be out of stock right now.

Also, if people paid by Paypal, their funds might have been held until they could show they had shipped products. This would incentivize them to process those later orders first.

 FrothingMuppet wrote:
but what about stuff that should be ready to ship now?! Will it come out when they issue the freebies? Will it be later?

Brooks last post about them 'running out of stock' is freaking me out that this is a $200 odd dollar gamble that has gone down the drain.

Losing confidence with this also. Fwiw I threw in well over $1k US at this project (nearly $2k OZ now) and am still waiting for them to produce the vast majority of what was pledged for.

The situation of late makes it harder to believe their "estimations" of a completion date which were part of the update back in January.
For backers who either chose to wait for Wave 3 shipments or had that choice decided by RH, it seems there will be ongoing delays because of this latest admission.
Running out of stock and further holding up deliveries because of these shortages is piss poor. RH should have a clear indication of who wants what exactly and this tally should equally correspond with the production numbers submitted to the foundry. If a number of backers have chosen the one shipment option then available items should have been put aside so all outstanding orders are kept up to date and are ready to ship once the last item from the production queue is done.
So what happens now if they progressively run "out of stock" with some of the character minis that they've decided to give away? More delays?

RH can come hat in hand for the new KS but really you'd have to be a sucker to go through this again...

It'll happen, I thought people were suckers for going in on this one, Raging Heroes already had a bad rep, we were just shot down by the White Knights for trying to warn people off first time round. If your going to go in, go in small and increase later.

Well, I wouldn't say they had a bad rep then, they had a reputation for always overshooting their release dates, that much I did warn about. The dodginess didn't happen until the campaign was underway and stuff happened.

Oh, you mean the unveiling of the gif....

Yeah, I don't remember anyone citing a bad rep in the beginning. Certainly a couple of posters warned the models would be late, which I for one appreciated, since the forewarning mollified my apprehension quite a bit.

They certainly cemented their rep in this campaign though. No punctuality, little accountability, poor communication, mind-blowing models. I probably won't back the new KS, unless they can seriously step up the quality of the elf stuff.

And I got a response to one of my messages - it said my single wave (troops, heroines) would ship 'soon' after the freebies shipped.

It was a single line response and felt/read like a canned response.

At the word 'soon' I couldn't help but laugh and think to Prodos and the AvP debacle.

Oh crap, I'd forgotten the whole "freebies" thing, made me want to puke every time they posted the word.

And here I am wanting to buy more minis but still waiting for their online store to update.

 BrookM wrote:
And here I am wanting to buy more minis but still waiting for their online store to update.

At least you have yours...

For those who were asking about mecha renders they have been released before




I can't find the Jailbirds Mech oddly enough.

In other news, I'm really enjoying looking at all the alt parts going "Hmmm, that head for the hero, that head for the troops..." Ex Volga the KST Standard Bearer has a stoic face with a barracks cap, and a angry battle cry. Head one goes on Volga, head two goes to a sergeant winding up for a chainsword slash.

I'm not interested in the renders, I'd much rather like to see the real deal.