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I followed up on my missing tracking Id for the freebie wave and was advised it had been logistically too hard to issue the Id/advice re shipping to all those receiving items given how many packages they were issuing.

I imagine then some backers are likely to have fallen foul of the 'logistical' hurdle.

I also imagine this exercise has contributed to the lack of Wave 3 shipping. When I asked what from my order was not ready to go I was told it would all issue after the freebies. So it looks to me like a decision was taken to halt everything to ship freebies, even if backers had other items ready that could have closed off their order in one fell swoop.

So I got my notification for my freebies, but still nothing on the Connoiseur Box I pledged for, any idea what sculpts they're still waiting on so that I can get my minis?

chaos0xomega wrote:
So I got my notification for my freebies, but still nothing on the Connoiseur Box I pledged for, any idea what sculpts they're still waiting on so that I can get my minis?

The "hand poured resin" was by their own admission supposed to be done after everything else so how that fits in with what's happening atm is anyone's guess.
No info on the eta of the digital artbook and other additional exclusives either.

I'm quite sure that they'll NEVER finish that digital artbook.
Avatars of War did the same with some parts of the pledges. They never ever sent out the signed prints.

Raging Heroes will just never answer posts asking for the artbook and in a few years people will not care anymore.

Which is odd since the digital artbook is the easiest part to fulfill.

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
Which is odd since the digital artbook is the easiest part to fulfill.

Last I remember on the matter was that they wanted to go the extra mile with it, but I think at this stage it is something they'll not get around to any time soon due to completion of the first one and the running of the second one.

TGG2 Special deal for our TGG backers – a free mini!
And here's the special deal we promised you, our first TGG backers: if you chose to come in our our new TGG2 Kickstarter (launching this week!) and pledge at Lieutenant Box level and above, you'll get a free mini to choose amongst our TGG2 Kickstarter specially priced $10 Heroines (a $15 retail value).
We couldn't have come so far without your continuing support, and so we are happy to show our gratitude by doing this for you

So if TGG backers spend ($150eb)~$165 they get 1 extra freebie chosen from the $10 selection....

So it is like a corner store drink coupon... buy 10 ($15rp) get 1 free
not exactly inspiring

Comeone, even I am not flaming against a free extra miniature.

Isn't it 'free' IF you spend $150+ though?

Not exactly 'free', but I guess I can kind of see where you're coming from?

You're not actually suggesting they should give you something for free without giving them money... right?

No, I wasn't suggesting that.

You're not actually suggesting that having to spend $150+ dollars to get that 'bonus' one miniature is reasonable... right?

I'm with ronin.....its a deal for previous backer...not a general hand out. There still trying to make money

Alph

it's one additional thing in addition to all the other freebies and probably stretchgoals.

I understand that - it just seems a bit of a steep entry price to collect your 'thank you' for dealing with the previous campaign that was rather late and that had ridiculously bad communication.

that's all!

RoninXiC wrote:
Comeone, even I am not flaming against a free extra miniature.

Lets look at the deal using my numbers.

2 years ago I spend nearly $400 on their KS.
I have not received anything but will be getting freebies soon.
now they say I get a free mini if I spend $150 more ($165 non eb pledge)
so for spending $550 with them they graciously give me a free $10 mini ($15rp)

Now lets do a bit of brainstorming. TGG1 had 2748 backers so MAX numbers are.
@ $10 per mini and if every single backer backed again and at LT pledge level LnR are giving out $27,480 worth of 'free' minis
@ 2748 backers at LT pledge level (using $150eb for ease) they are gaining $411,220
net profit of $384,720 in pledges. (remember this is using the likely EB pledge amount so it will be larger)
they have more than enough room to offer TGG1 backers a better deal considering everything they have put the TGG1 backers through.

That's the worst naive miscalculation since first grade.

then enlighten me

because every $ they earn is profit.

So then the value of their tgg1 backers 'Deal' is even less than how I explained it.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2011/09/mind_blown.gif

That's the only reply I'm going to give... Honestly. This is a nice thing for potential backers:
Get something extra for free
and of course an add campagne for Raging Heroes:
Get more potential backers by spending just a bit of money.

There is nothing more to it.

 keltikhoa wrote:
Now lets do a bit of brainstorming. TGG1 had 2748 backers so MAX numbers are.

I can say the maths are wrong simply because i missed the end Date, and became a Paypal Backer, and i am eligible for the Free mini and also not counted in your MAX

Do you know how many Paypal backers they have?

Got my freebies today after getting the shipping notification last Thursday, fairly quick shipping. It all looks really good but no idea what I'll do with them right now though. =p

 keltikhoa wrote:

RoninXiC wrote:
Comeone, even I am not flaming against a free extra miniature.

Lets look at the deal using my numbers.

2 years ago I spend nearly $400 on their KS.
I have not received anything but will be getting freebies soon.
now they say I get a free mini if I spend $150 more ($165 non eb pledge)
so for spending $550 with them they graciously give me a free $10 mini ($15rp)

Now lets do a bit of brainstorming. TGG1 had 2748 backers so MAX numbers are.
@ $10 per mini and if every single backer backed again and at LT pledge level LnR are giving out $27,480 worth of 'free' minis
@ 2748 backers at LT pledge level (using $150eb for ease) they are gaining $411,220
net profit of $384,720 in pledges. (remember this is using the likely EB pledge amount so it will be larger)
they have more than enough room to offer TGG1 backers a better deal considering everything they have put the TGG1 backers through.

Well, first off, this does ignore their production and shipping costs, so to call it 'net profit' is kind of iffy. It is certainly somewhere betwixt and between potential gross and net, I'll agree with that.

But, functionally, they're going to make a profit as long as they don't give away the mini at less than, oh, probably $20 (a rectally extracted guess, mind).

So, if $150 is too high, and $20 is the absolute lowball - where do you think they should have offered the free mini to make it a viable nice offer?
If they had done $100 would you have been annoyed?
$50?
$30?

It's all a matter of degree, really, and it's also somewhat dependent on how offended or not offended you are at TGGKS1, really.
I, personally, have not been very much offended - so for me the "deal" looks like a fine little incentive.
You, apparently, are more offended and want a better deal to...get in on something that your expectation is to be offended on, I suppose.

I would suggest, if they bug you that much, just don't get in on the next one - they are almost assuredly going to be about the same. I don't think the particular price point of the freebie is going to change that for you, yeah?

Honestly you're lucky they're even offering that, how many companies offer anything at all to backers of previous projects?

It's a sign of goodwill, while also not going completely over the top and keeping it realistic IMHO.

 BrookM wrote:
It's a sign of goodwill, while also not going completely over the top and keeping it realistic IMHO.

QFT. I think this is the best median solution. If they offered much more, they would get flak from people who weren't aware of the first campaign, couldn't afford it, etc.

I don't think it will make any fence sitters commit, and it sure won't sway anyone who decided not to back, but as someone who backed the first KS, I think it's nice that they are giving anything at all to their previous backers.

 BrookM wrote:

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
Which is odd since the digital artbook is the easiest part to fulfill.

Last I remember on the matter was that they wanted to go the extra mile with it, but I think at this stage it is something they'll not get around to any time soon due to completion of the first one and the running of the second one.

Not to interrupt the flow of "is this generous or not?", but the art book is something that they are genuinely remiss in providing. While anything for free as a fillip for loyalty is a nice gesture, actually getting the things that we pledged for is quite a bit higher priority, or so I would think.

 Buzzsaw wrote:

 BrookM wrote:

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
Which is odd since the digital artbook is the easiest part to fulfill.

Last I remember on the matter was that they wanted to go the extra mile with it, but I think at this stage it is something they'll not get around to any time soon due to completion of the first one and the running of the second one.

Not to interrupt the flow of "is this generous or not?", but the art book is something that they are genuinely remiss in providing. While anything for free as a fillip for loyalty is a nice gesture, actually getting the things that we pledged for is quite a bit higher priority, or so I would think.

Mind, there's also a pledge level just for the art book and some people (79 to be precise) have pledged for it.

Plus it is something they could have shunted their artistes on instead of having them go wichever way but not finish the damn hammer on the preview of the mecha-sister.

Ugh. And you know I'll be in for a dollar for the joy of commenting. Cuz let's face it, BrookM is entertaining as hell. I always figured you were a SoB kinda man, though. I'm surprised.

I'm in for a unit of the Knights of the Chalice and maybe a heroine or two to beef up my Sisters of Battle, but I'm not going to throw much cash at this one.