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If the rolling hills goal isn't met will they be released at some point?
To be honest I was excited about the clean streets but I really love how the rolling hills look like. How high will the hills be? Will you at some point release larger hills or ponds? like it might take a few boards to put together like in ROB boards? I love height differential in game boards.

 Newabortion wrote:
If the rolling hills goal isn't met will they be released at some point?
To be honest I was excited about the clean streets but I really love how the rolling hills look like. How high will the hills be? Will you at some point release larger hills or ponds? like it might take a few boards to put together like in ROB boards? I love height differential in game boards.

There is some concept art of what the 8 Fields tiles basically look like on the Kickstarter:


2 Creek Tiles, a small pond, a large rock, and several 'flats'. No ROB style hills in the fields set.

He's said in the comments that expansions to each of the themes will come out eventually, and one of the biggest requests has been for more water features.

The Trenches set is supposed to include some elevation pieces, and I imagine they could be used with the fields (or any other set) to produce hills.

My gosh i completely overlooked that picture! Lol I looked at it but I guess I just wasn't paying attention. Thanks so much Cyporiean.

 Newabortion wrote:
My gosh i completely overlooked that picture! Lol I looked at it but I guess I just wasn't paying attention. Thanks so much Cyporiean.

No problem, people have overlooked alot of stuff on the main page.

Its only 12.5k away from the Fields at this point, and I'm quite excited.


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Also this:

Creator Secret Weapon 1 minute ago

NEW DISPLAY BOARDS WILL BE UNLOCKED AS PARTIAL REWARDS! OMG PONIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, I'm tired too - also, I'm on my second Manhattan, and setting up a game of Small World.

So, for people who are pledging for display boards, do they get to choose what 4 tiles they get... or is it random?

Its all preset, this was in the comments last night:

The "Urban Streets" will both get 2 roads and 2 foundation tiles.

The "Deadzone" will get 4 of the gridded foundation tiles.

"Scrap Yard" will get 2 of the flat tiles, the tile we've been previewing (because it's famous!), and one of the heavy litter tiles.

"Rolling Fields" will get 2 flat tiles, the rock feature, and possibly the 90* creek bend.

"Ruined Temple" will get 2 foundation tiles and 2 flat tiles.

"Trench Works" will get two straight trench sections and two raised flat tiles.

"Lost Desert" will get one of each desert theme.

Pictures are coming, he is just waiting on renders/art to be finished.

Each theme will have a set display board option Urban for example is 2 straight roads and 2 plain foundation tiles they are not random nor will you get a choice.

Edit or yeah Cyperiean has all the details there


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There,s an EB display board $50 open if your quick.

I got it! You're my hero, DaveC . Thank you!! I literally checked 5 minutes ago and it wasn't there...

Glad to help - not an entirely selfless act I want to see Rolling fields unlocked and every little helps.

Well that's understandable . A week to go with under 10K left needed, I think that'll be really easy.

I will only have a choice of style to make if the Ruined Temple gets unlocked as well (or other, display board only options, as I thought they might've mentioned something about that) since I'll be using it for a fantasy army and thus urban doesn't work.

Its looking like the Display board for the temple will be an inbetween stretch goal, so we should at the very least hit that.

Aaaaand I just became a backer at the Double Mini-Wargamer level, go me. Plan to get the clean urban streets and the damaged urban streets sets.

 Cyporiean wrote:
Its looking like the Display board for the temple will be an inbetween stretch goal, so we should at the very least hit that.

Have they indicated where that goal might slot in?

 RiTides wrote:

 Cyporiean wrote:
Its looking like the Display board for the temple will be an inbetween stretch goal, so we should at the very least hit that.

Have they indicated where that goal might slot in?

Not yet.


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$180,000 FUNDED - ROLLING FIELDS DISPLAY BOARD UNLOCKED!

Obviously I'm a bit behind on this one -- but I was waiting on some revised artwork before I posted the official announcement. This has been floating around in the general comments for a couple of days. As half-way points to our next stretch-goal I will be unlocking Display Board options for the next theme. And "Rolling Fields" is here... NOW!



By popular request (demands, really!) the Display Board will include the creek bend, the rock feature, and two of the flat tiles. Like all of our Display Board options this will also come with a 2' frame to keep your display snug.
BUT WAIT! THAT'S NOT ALL!

As I type this the complete "Rolling Fields" table set is less than $10,000 away -- which means that once we unlock that we're going to be aiming for a "Ruined Temple" Display Board option!


BAM! Of course we're still working out the concepts for the "Ruined Temple" theme, so I can't show you what a display board would look like... but I CAN show you what the new concepts look like!



This batch of concepts is intentionally heavy handed -- giving us an idea of which elements we could work with. The finished set will include several (comparatively) plain tiles, and far more foundation tiles. But I can say that the quarter circle (far right corner), and the "moon well" foundation tile (one up and right from the bottom center) have been given the green light. Likewise the partial wall (top center), and the desecrated graves will make an appearance on the final tiles. The Display Board option will include two foundation tiles, one raised detail tile, and one flat tile.

And there is STILL more!

I'm waiting for permission from Mantic Games to offer a 4x4' (16 tile set) version of the official Deadzone board. Many of you have requested it and I'm hoping to be able to offer it before the campaign closes.

I'll have an update posted tomorrow with all of the unlocked themes available as pledge rewards -- to help make it easier to navigate.

My thanks for the constant feedback, support, and enthusiasm!

Ok, I need some clarification here, because there are three sources of information for this and they are all mutually exclusive.

Urban Streets Version 1:


If treated as a purchase of 16 tiles, from this you would get:

x4 Straight roads
x4 T-Junctions
x2 X-sections
x2 End-caps
x4 Foundation

If this one is correct, the ratios are all off. There's no way we'd need 4 T-Junctions per set and there's no where near enough foundation tiles. This would create an odd looking race-track with roads that go no where and you wouldn't have enough flat ground to place any buildings.

Urban Streets Version 2


This requires a bit of extrapolation, but if we assume that the rightmost block of four in the previous picture remains as is, then this is the left-most block of four, replacing one of the two T-Junctions on the concept sketch with another foundation.

This would give us (in a set of 16):

x4 Straight roads
x2 T-Junctions
x2 X-sections
x2 End-caps
x6 Foundation

Urban Streets Version 3
This is the listing beneath the two different pictures.

4 x Straight Road
2 x T Junction
2 x X Junction
6 x Foundation
1 x Checkpoint
1 x Lift-Gate

This one does not appear to be possible as you cannot have 1 of something where it's a duplication of 8 tiles. It would have to be two checkpoint or two liftgates, not one of either. That doesn't work.



So which is correct? As I said, these are all mutually exclusive. If it's Version 2 I might be down for two sets of 16 (one damaged, one not). If not, then I won't be in.

For anyone interested, due to unforeseen bills I'll be cancelling my skirmisher early bird later today.

Do I see it right: Standard Urban board has 7x7 stone tiles and Deadzone one has 8x8 stone tiles?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


Urban Streets Version 3
This is the listing beneath the two different pictures.

4 x Straight Road
2 x T Junction
2 x X Junction
6 x Foundation
1 x Checkpoint
1 x Lift-Gate

I believe it is this one, he said that because he wanted to there would be 2 non duplicates (both road ends) for the clean streets.

Yep version 3 is the current contents of the Urban set.

The current render shown of the Urban street has a 7 square grid as it was done prior the Dead zone deal this has been changed and ALL Urban street designs now have an 8 square grid plus there will be subtle markings like cracks on the roads to mark out the 3"x3" grid where it can't be done with paving stones. SWM should have new renders tomorrow. The current Dead zone board is just a mock up using the 7x7 board with an extra row photoshoped in. The 4 tiles making up the Deadzone board will have different detailing it's not the same board repeated 4 times. SWM are doing foundation tiles anyway and Mantic will pick the 4 most suitable - the Dead zone tiles are not unique designs they will be part of the Urban streets boards anyway.

He posted that the rolling fields display board is unlocked (with final concept pic) and ruined temple display board is next after the 200K stretch. Nice!

Very true RiTides with all the Dead zone talk we've kind of forgotten the rest of the project. As an aside to that Mantic jumped the gun and were not supposed to offer the Dead zone boards as an add on until after the SWM KS ended they were just supposed to advertise the deal until then to help SWM a long unfortunately SWM will lose out on some pledge money as a result. Here's hoping once rolling fields opens there will be a good boost from those waiting for a more fantasy board.

The update

$180,000 FUNDED - ROLLING FIELDS DISPLAY BOARD UNLOCKED!

Obviously I'm a bit behind on this one -- but I was waiting on some revised artwork before I posted the official announcement. This has been floating around in the general comments for a couple of days. As half-way points to our next stretch-goal I will be unlocking Display Board options for the next theme. And "Rolling Fields" is here... NOW!



By popular request (demands, really!) the Display Board will include the creek bend, the rock feature, and two of the flat tiles. Like all of our Display Board options this will also come with a 2' frame to keep your display snug.

BUT WAIT! THAT'S NOT ALL!

As I type this the complete "Rolling Fields" table set is less than $10,000 away -- which means that once we unlock that we're going to be aiming for a "Ruined Temple" Display Board option!


BAM! Of course we're still working out the concepts for the "Ruined Temple" theme, so I can't show you what a display board would look like... but I CAN show you what the new concepts look like!



This batch of concepts is intentionally heavy handed -- giving us an idea of which elements we could work with. The finished set will include several (comparatively) plain tiles, and far more foundation tiles. But I can say that the quarter circle (far right corner), and the "moon well" foundation tile (one up and right from the bottom center) have been given the green light. Likewise the partial wall (top center), and the desecrated graves will make an appearance on the final tiles. The Display Board option will include two foundation tiles, one raised detail tile, and one flat tile.

And there is STILL more!

I'm waiting for permission from Mantic Games to offer a 4x4' (16 tile set) version of the official Deadzone board. Many of you have requested it and I'm hoping to be able to offer it before the campaign closes.

I'll have an update posted tomorrow with all of the unlocked themes available as pledge rewards -- to help make it easier to navigate.

My thanks for the constant feedback, support, and enthusiasm!

I think ruined temple has great potential. Very excited to see the final concepts / display board of it.

 DaveC wrote:
Yep version 3 is the current contents of the Urban set.

How?

If you have 8 tiles and double them, the minimum you will end up with of any type of tile is 2. You can't have two unique tiles unless there are 16 unique sculpts. Are there 16 unique sculpts or is 8 sculpts doubled?

8 unique tiles, MisterJustin has arranged it so that they will produce more of the foundation tiles and less of the 2 special tiles so you only get 1 of each special tile but you get 2 extra foundation tiles as a result. He changed it after it was pointed out that the layouts were to road heavy with only 4 foundation tiles and left little space for buildings.

I suspect though there are only 8 tiles, the factory is tooling up as if there are 16. So when they knock out a set of 16 it is really like two sets of 8, each with the one unique tile. But within each set of 8 there are duplicates of road or foundation tiles.

 RiTides wrote:
I think ruined temple has great potential. Very excited to see the final concepts / display board of it.

I'm the opposite. Was really looking forward to this, and the concept looks way more like bombed out WWII Germany than a ruined temple. I was hoping for more cobbles/tiles like you would find in the roman plazas bordering churches, etc. this looks more like bombed urban clutter. I don't know if I want a board now...

If you read the text he says these are intentionally dense to try out ideas, final ones will have more plain. 2 that are final are the quarter circle and the "moon well" on the right side- both of these look Great to me. And are generic enough to be So many things depending on painting!

Avoiding greek- or roman-esque columns and the like which would limit the utility of this set are a must, imo, and those 2 final tile concepts do that quite well.

 Salacious Greed wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
I think ruined temple has great potential. Very excited to see the final concepts / display board of it.

I'm the opposite. Was really looking forward to this, and the concept looks way more like bombed out WWII Germany than a ruined temple. I was hoping for more cobbles/tiles like you would find in the roman plazas bordering churches, etc. this looks more like bombed urban clutter. I don't know if I want a board now...

I am the exact same actually. I was hoping for less ruin and more temple. I think if the concepts don't change radically over this last week then I might have to pull out as none of the other boards really interest me. Maybe if we got to see some better artwork I might be convinced to stick around and hopefully our input will still be listened to after the ks has ended. He did mention in the latest update that there would be more foundation tiles than the art showed so I am still in for the moment!

My fear with the ruined temple parts is that they look very compartmentalised. So rather than having a board that is a ruined temple, you have a board with 36 individual ruined temple bits that don't spill over. A very neat mess, in other words. It would look unnatural.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
My fear with the ruined temple parts is that they look very compartmentalised. So rather than having a board that is a ruined temple, you have a board with 36 individual ruined temple bits that don't spill over. A very neat mess, in other words. It would look unnatural.

Good observation - it would be good if there was something in the design that made some of the tiles flow from one to another.

Perhaps if there was some element of ruined structure...



But done subtly enough that if you don't line them up it doesn't look bad either.