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2015/05/13 13:58:19
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - Pre-Orders Up!
BrookM wrote: Picked up my Knight kit just now and two things instantly popped out, the tabs of the box now have a bit of flavour text on them "I will uphold the honour of my house" and a makers plate on the bottom one.
Also, the instruction manual is a nice full-colour booklet now with handy painting guides for the big houses.
That sounds nice, though I'd rather they had it as a PDF on the website and made the kit cheaper
2015/05/13 16:12:30
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - Pre-Orders Up!
Panic wrote: yeah,
So it seems that complaining to GW about a new codex after 1 year fell on deaf ears.
Spoiler:
Hi Gary,
Thanks for the email. I'm sorry that our previous emails have not been very clear for you.
The only way that we would be able to do anything for you here would be if your book had still been in its original shrink wrap and in a re-saleable condition, or we had proof of purchase showing that the book was purchased within the last month.
I am very sorry, but in this instance we will not be able to help.
If you need anything further however, please feel free to contact us again.
I emailed my disappointment, but doubt I'll hear from them again.
Spoiler:
Lydia,
Had hoped that GW would understand why people were unhappy with a codex that lasts only one year. I'm disappointed with the refusal to accept something's wrong here.
A codex should last more than 1 year. The length has always been 3+ years.
It's sad GW moved to release books so sooner forcing repurchases if customers want to keep using their models.
I used to be what the community called a white knight... But it's been your repeated behaviour of invalidating products and raising prices that has made me become cynical. For the first time I'm starting to understand why some people pirate codexs blaming rising costs.
GWs refusal at the least offer a reason as to why this is all OK has damaged my loyalty further. This sad state of affairs makes me feel better about moving more of my time and money away from 40k towards FFG's xwing.
I'll also be pledging for Dakkas new game. Hopefully once your companies competition grow strong and you begin to lose market share you'll value your customers more and treat them better.
Disappointed,
Gary Keenan.
The flat refusal to comment on the extra short lifespan of codex knights may be a sign of things to come :(
Panic...
I don't understand your complaint, the GW hobby is buying stuff from GW, they give you more stuff, although it is almost the same stuff, but it is new stuff you can buy, it is like the new space marine squad stuff, it almost the same stuff, but it is new. Buy it, Hobby objective achieved!
I've had a chance to read through the new codex now and it's a massive upgrade over the previous version, it looks like they took a large part of the sample Knights from the now out of print Companion book and put them in here, along with a handy how-to guide on how to do heraldry for both Imperial and Mechanicus aligned houses.
The background has been changed a wee bit here and there, the codex features plenty of newly commissioned pieces of art alongside those previously featured in the older codex and the Sanctus Reach campaign book, plus Knight formations are now officially called "Lances" more than once, so you babies have something new to cry about now.
Now, the datacard set isn't as great as the Skitarii one sadly, but c'est la vie I suppose.
edit.
It also looks like they removed that silly bit of fluff from the book where the Knights were first intended as labour units where their "battle cannons would be used to mine minerals and their Reapers would be used for logging"
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2015/05/14 12:05:18
Subject: Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - Pre-Orders Up!
If only we could get rules for the knights aligned with Chaos...... *sigh*
"Because the Wolves kill cleanly, and we do not. They also kill quickly, and we have never done that, either. They fight, they win, and they stalk back to their ships with their tails held high. If they were ever ordered to destroy another Legion, they would do it by hurling warrior against warrior, seeking to grind their enemies down with the admirable delusions of the 'noble savage'. If we were ever ordered to assault another Legion, we would virus bomb their recruitment worlds; slaughter their serfs and slaves; poison their gene-seed repositories and spend the next dozen decades watching them die slow, humiliating deaths. Night after night, raid after raid, we'd overwhelm stragglers from their fleets and bleach their skulls to hang from our armour, until none remained. But that isn't the quick execution the Emperor needs, is it? The Wolves go for the throat. We go for the eyes. Then the tongue. Then the hands. Then the feet. Then we skin the crippled remains, and offer it up as an example to any still bearing witness. The Wolves were warriors before they became soldiers. We were murderers first, last, and always!" —Jago Sevatarion
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2015/05/14 15:47:27
Subject: Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - Pre-Orders Up!
Apparently, that limited edition House Terryn Bankruptcy Lance formation is sold out, which means someone has had to have seen the rules for it floating around on the internets.... right?
Looky Likey wrote: The instructions also have the stats and wargear load out for each of the Knight variants as well, not sure how long GW have been doing that.
I think they started doing that with Nagash. At any rate, they've been doing that for a while now.
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2015/05/14 19:52:01
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - Pre-Orders Up!
em_en_oh_pee wrote: Apparently, that limited edition House Terryn Bankruptcy Lance formation is sold out, which means someone has had to have seen the rules for it floating around on the internets.... right?
It was reposted here from a /tg/ thread I think, will be a few pages back now.
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em_en_oh_pee wrote: Apparently, that limited edition House Terryn Bankruptcy Lance formation is sold out, which means someone has had to have seen the rules for it floating around on the internets.... right?
It was reposted here from a /tg/ thread I think, will be a few pages back now.
And thus I must wait, for all things /tg/ and imgur related are blocked at work. Was it the House Terryn exclusive? Or just the Baronial Lance?
From /tg wrote:It isn't. There's a general version of it, the Exalted Court, but it's a far cry from the Terryn one.
/tg/ managed to figure out a couple of things so far The Exalted Court of House Terryn.
Formation: The High King (Knight Warden) The Herald (Knight Crusader) The Kingsward (Knight Gallant) The Master of Judgement (Knight Errant) The Gatekeeper (Knight Paladin)
Formation Restrictions: None
The Lords of House Terryn: All models in this formation have the Vehicle (Superheavy Walker, Character) unit type, Weapon Skill 5 and Ballistic Skill 5. As Characters each can choose items from the Heirlooms of the Knightly houses list.
The High King: The High King has Weapon Skill 6 and Ballsitic Skill 6 and adds +1 to all invulnerable saves made due to Ion Shield. In addition, if fighting in a challenge the High King may re-roll failed to-hit rolls. If the High King is the Warlord he always has the Knight Seneschal warlord trait.
The Herald: The Herald and all Imperial Knights from this formation within 12" may re-roll [something]. [blocked] and may fire Overwatch despite being Superheavy Vehicles.
The Kingsward: If the High King is [blocked/something] and suffers a glacing or [blocked]. In addition, [something].
The Master of Judgement: The [something] may re-roll failed [something] charged into close combat.
The Gatekeeper: The Gatekeeper has [blocked] rule. In addition, all ranged weapons [blocked] Interceptor special rule.
It's not complete, but it gets across a rough idea how redacted powerful this formation is.
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2015/05/14 20:07:46
Subject: Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - Pre-Orders Up!
em_en_oh_pee wrote: ...oh my god... it is just all of the other Lances combined, isn't it?
If it makes you feel better, minimum cost is supposedly 1870.
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2015/05/14 20:20:11
Subject: Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - Pre-Orders Up!
Just picked up a Titan Fall Kinex Atlas toy on clearance for $20 at A.C.Moore, Toys R Us has them for $30. It's roughly the same bulk as a Cerastus Knight, but more importantly is that it's hands are the same size. So if you are looking for fists to add to your existing Paladins and Errants, this is a source for both right and left hands. Fingers and thumb even have enough articulation to opem and close around something. It is 10.5" tall, so it's about an head height taller than the Cerastus Knight chasis, and dwarfs the plastic Imperial Knight.
Spoiler:
Later tonight I'll get a side by side comparison pic between it, a Paladin, and a Lancer.
I plan on using the fists on my IKs and using the chasis for an Ork Looted Imperial Knight equivalent.
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2015/05/16 21:39:06
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Warden and Crusader - Pre-Orders Up!
And now Chaos players can officially stop crying about no Chaos Knights. Finally.
Well, hopefully they'll allow us access to lots of Knight variants and not just the ones they've made a kit for, I'd love to do up my knight as a Chaos Gallant
And now Chaos players can officially stop crying about no Chaos Knights. Finally.
Chaos players will never stop crying. The 5th yet to be revealed Warhammer/40k chaos god is Boohoo, the god of whining. That said.. I'm glad they're getting a knight of their own.
"Because the Wolves kill cleanly, and we do not. They also kill quickly, and we have never done that, either. They fight, they win, and they stalk back to their ships with their tails held high. If they were ever ordered to destroy another Legion, they would do it by hurling warrior against warrior, seeking to grind their enemies down with the admirable delusions of the 'noble savage'. If we were ever ordered to assault another Legion, we would virus bomb their recruitment worlds; slaughter their serfs and slaves; poison their gene-seed repositories and spend the next dozen decades watching them die slow, humiliating deaths. Night after night, raid after raid, we'd overwhelm stragglers from their fleets and bleach their skulls to hang from our armour, until none remained. But that isn't the quick execution the Emperor needs, is it? The Wolves go for the throat. We go for the eyes. Then the tongue. Then the hands. Then the feet. Then we skin the crippled remains, and offer it up as an example to any still bearing witness. The Wolves were warriors before they became soldiers. We were murderers first, last, and always!" —Jago Sevatarion
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