Can't Kill Me [Necron List]

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**Stelek**

I don't see anything wrong with it.

It's not that Necrons are gonna win many games in 5E till a revamp anyway.

**Zathras**

Reading the rules for Emergency Debarcation, I do not believe you can ED a Warrior unit from your reserves when the 'Lith is destroyed because the Warriors are not actually in the 'Lith as passengers. They are in reserve which is a different situation. Can the 'Lith pick up and carry troops around? Nope. Then no ED. The only time a Necron unit interacts with the "Lith is during the Movement Phase, either coming out of reserve or being teleported from the battlefield to the portal on the front.

**Stelek**

Nor would I attempt to do so.

You can ED from a live Lith though.

**Zathras**

Stelek wrote:Nor would I attempt to do so.

You can ED from a live Lith though.

How? No passengers in a 'Lith so no ED.

**Stelek**

Read the Lith rules again.

The part about disembarking from a stationary transport vehicle.

You can "insist" Necron players can't do this, but I wager they'll do it anyway.

All four of them that will run more than 14 warriors in a single unit.

**Zathras**

Stelek wrote:Read the Lith rules again.

The part about disembarking from a stationary transport vehicle.

You can "insist" Necron players can't do this, but I wager they'll do it anyway.

All four of them that will run more than 14 warriors in a single unit.

Ah, I understand. They can ED if the portal is blocked by the enemy or impassable terrain. Otherwise they have to come out the front door.

**Stelek**

Right. I doubt people will care really, Necrons have like 1 build that's any good...and even that is just until people figure out how to beat it.

**imweasel**

stjohn70 wrote:Couple problems with this army design...

1 - Warrior units would not be able to use the Monoliths to enter play. They could be held in Reserves, via the new 5e rules, but only Warrior squads exceeding the minimum FOC can use the Monolith to enter play.

2 - The maximum number of 1" base models (Warriors) that can enter play within 2" of the Monolith's portal is 13 (14 if you're good). The enemy isn't preventing you from disembarking, so the Emergency Disembarkation rule could not be used. You just can't disembark that many models from it.

3 - Whilst shooting probably won't ever be able to kill this army, all it takes is one good assault. I'm not saying that the assault is automatic, but with the newer, harsher close combat - Necrons that get run down do not get any WBB rolls.

1 - Incorrect. The new necron faq states that the necron player determines if warrior units will enter play via monolith or board edge. FOC does not factor into this.

2 - This is correct (though you might be able to get more than 13) if you include impassable terrain into the equation.

3 - Casualties from a necron unit that subsequently gets run run down from sweeping advances do get a WBB (the first casualties that is - not the ones that were run down) as long as they are eligible for a WBB. That rule was taken out of the old faq when the new faq was published.

**Stelek**

Well to be honest, this list was created well before the FAQ. I had a inkling how it'd be written, but it was just a well-educated guess.

I think we covered the WBB from CC thing already.

**Grimaldi**

Tri wrote:
Warrior Special Rules
-Reserves: Any Warrior unit in excess of the minimum required by the force organisation chart for the mission being played, may begn the game in reserves whether the reserves special rule is used or not. When they arrive they must emerge from a monolith portal. If there is no monolith when the units become available, they will be forced to wait until a monolith becomes available.

Monolith Special Rules
-Power Matrix: (too long skipping down to the important bit)
-if a unit of of Necron Warriors is eligible to eneter play from reserves (see the Necron
Warriors entry) then they must emerge from the portal even if you would prefer to
fire the partical whip. Only one unit of Warriors can enter play from eeach Monolith
in a single turn. The Necon Player desideds which.

The rule stipulates that the min force organisation for the mission can't uses it and only Warrior get the rule (IC joined to the unit could go ether way but i'd say not) ... playing Apoc. fine no min FOC so no restrictions. Using the BGB and standard missions then you can't do it ...(unless GW let you in an up coming FAQ)

I don't think this logic quite holds up. The warrior special rule doesn't restrict warriors in any way, it just grants an additional benefit to warrior squads in excess of the FOC requirement for the mission. The main rule book allows all units to enter in reserve, and the Necron codex grants that ability a second time to warrior squads in excess of FOC requirements.

This is in addition to any Necron FAQs that may also clarify the issue.

**Tri**

Grimaldi wrote:

I don't think this logic quite holds up. The warrior special rule doesn't restrict warriors in any way, it just grants an additional benefit to warrior squads in excess of the FOC requirement for the mission. The main rule book allows all units to enter in reserve, and the Necron codex grants that ability a second time to warrior squads in excess of FOC requirements.

This is in addition to any Necron FAQs that may also clarify the issue.

...? whats the difference between the BGB Reserve Rule and the Warrior Special Rules ? easy one lets you walk on from your edge and the other lets you come throught the monolith. BGB has no restrictions on the Reserve Rule but the Warrior Special Rules does;

Warrior Special Rules
-Reserves: Any Warrior unit in excess of the minimum required by the force organisation chart for the mission being played, may begn the game in reserves whether the reserves special rule is used or not. When they arrive they must emerge from a monolith portal. If there is no monolith when the units become available, they will be forced to wait until a monolith becomes available.

and the FAQ doesn't change this
... what it does say "he must specify if they are going to enter the game through the monolith or simply walk in from their own table edge" this is because if all monliths are destroyed any Warrior using Warrior Special Rules are destroyed

(edit to fix format)