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Envy89 wrote:.... who are they going to get to play Fey Valentine

Hm. The chest-balloons, the slowed widespaced eyes, the small mouth that turns into gargantuan proportions when it's open and the alien-proportion head?

Tila Tequila. A real life animu girl. This is why you slap your friend very hard when he says he finds anime girls cute. In addition to being slowed.

Actually I would argue that many of the great poets were working for sheer personal satisfaction, or religious motives. (Or in some cases, to get into a girl's panties.)

Poetry is probably the cheapest form of art -- all you need is a pen and pad. Of course many of the great poets were independently wealthy. It's tough to make a living from poetry.

OT aside, the fact that the Star Trek franchise badly needs a shake-up perhaps indicates it is past its sell-by and should quietly dropped. Surely there are new SF frontiers to explore!

Envy89 wrote:.... who are they going to get to play Fey Valentine

Well, duh.



This is your own fault.

dogma wrote:Yeah, the illusion of art for art's sake is just that. A fantasy based upon the disappearance of the original force of inspiration. For example, most great poets were commissioned to either disparage a rival, or talk up a patron. It was medieval propaganda.

As much as I am a nihilist, I'm going to have to disagree here. There is making money, and there is art. Money is required to live, living is required to make art, and such are usually interdependant. But don't try to tell me that some of us don't play or write music simply because we enjoy it, or don't try to make new, inspiring music because we want to enjoy it even more. Art for arts sake exists.

Kilkrazy wrote:Actually I would argue that many of the great poets were working for sheer personal satisfaction, or religious motives. (Or in some cases, to get into a girl's panties.)

Poetry is probably the cheapest form of art -- all you need is a pen and pad. Of course many of the great poets were independently wealthy. It's tough to make a living from poetry.

Well, all you need now is a pen and a pad. In times past you also needed to be literate, which was saying a lot in many circumstances. It also bears mention that religious motives are largely inseparable from financial ones in certain periods; being as that was the primary source of income at the time.

Railguns wrote:
As much as I am a nihilist, I'm going to have to disagree here. There is making money, and there is art. Money is required to live, living is required to make art, and such are usually interdependant. But don't try to tell me that some of us don't play or write music simply because we enjoy it, or don't try to make new, inspiring music because we want to enjoy it even more. Art for arts sake exists.

I don't necessarily disagree. I'm more apt to see what you describe as art for your (in the general sense) sake. But I can see where you're coming from.

@ stonefox. that is exactly why they need to get someone good to play her role.

@ malfred. ...................................

Hey! Someone had to bring up "man-fay" - although I think I may just bring up lunch over that pic.

There is such a thing as "art for art's sake", but it tends to be made by people who don't really need the money, who who did it purely for the fun.

Peter Jackson's early works don't count, either. They were done for recognition - which got him where he is today, maker of all things overbloown and long-winded.