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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/18 19:16:09
Subject: God I hate Hollywood
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Barpharanges
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/18 20:42:01
Subject: God I hate Hollywood
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Dominating Dominatrix
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Now you know all the Dragonball fans felt
Altough the last trailer didn't look quity as bad as the first one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/18 21:31:58
Subject: God I hate Hollywood
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Plastictrees
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lets face it, nothing is holy anymore these days....
cowboy bebop, ninja scroll ....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/18 21:39:18
Subject: God I hate Hollywood
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Sslimey Sslyth
Busy somewhere, airin' out the skin jobs.
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Yea, it really sucks when something you loved so much as a child winds up on Taco Bell cups and Cereal boxes.
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I have never failed to seize on 4+ in my life!
The best 40k page in the Universe
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/18 22:29:03
Subject: Re:God I hate Hollywood
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
The Realms of the Unreal, of the Glandeco-Angelinnian War Storm, Caused by the Child Slave Rebellion
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Sigh... Well I can't say I'm surprised. Five years after they fact here hollywood comes to ruin something better than any major studio has created in years. God, these people have no shame. No living human is cool enough to play Spike Speigal. No one.
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2 - The hobbiest - The guy who likes the minis for what they are, loves playing with painted armies, using offical mini's in a friendly setting. Wants to play on boards with good terrain.
Devlin Mud is cheating.
More people have more rights now. Suck it.- Polonius
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/18 23:44:50
Subject: God I hate Hollywood
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Dogged Kum
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I dont know about that... I have kind of thought for a while that Benicio Del Toro might make a good spike. One of my co workers who eats sleeps and breathes anime had to actually take pause for a moment and agree with me, and this is the kind of guy who gets worked up to frothing mad on just about anything anime related.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 00:10:21
Subject: Re:God I hate Hollywood
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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BloodofOrks wrote:Sigh... Well I can't say I'm surprised. Five years after they fact here hollywood comes to ruin something better than any major studio has created in years. God, these people have no shame. No living human is cool enough to play Spike Speigal. No one.
Seconded and one to infinity. What's next, Aqua Teen Hunger Force?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 00:25:57
Subject: I HATE KEANU REEVES!
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Wrack Sufferer
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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Once upon a time, I told myself it's better to be smart than lucky. Every day, the world proves me wrong a little more. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 00:51:03
Subject: God I hate Hollywood
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Why not just take the money and HIRE the Bebop Director and staff to make another animated feature film?
That would be a much better investment.
I really don't think hollywood has the skill to pull this off.
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Man, that's the joy of Anime! To revel in the complete and utter wastefullness of making an unstoppable nuclear-powered combat andriod in the shape of a cute little girl, who has the ability to fall in love and wears an enormous bow in her hair. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 00:57:06
Subject: God I hate Hollywood
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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Its like someone burned down my childhood home and then sent me the tape
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 01:45:41
Subject: God I hate Hollywood
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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You'll get over it. Childhood memories fade over time. Also, cowboy bebop wasn't actually that good (but I'm not a believee that keanu is the antichrist, either.).
Hollywood hasn't had an original bone in its head since CB died and took the good ideas with him. they're ore interested in "remaking" or "reimaging" than innovating - although I hear Jim Cameron is still doing some pioneering work.
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 03:55:09
Subject: God I hate Hollywood
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Barpharanges
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chromedog wrote:You'll get over it. Childhood memories fade over time. Also, cowboy bebop wasn't actually that good (but I'm not a believee that keanu is the antichrist, either.).
Hollywood hasn't had an original bone in its head since CB died and took the good ideas with him. they're ore interested in "remaking" or "reimaging" than innovating - although I hear Jim Cameron is still doing some pioneering work.
To be fair, I first watched CB about 5 years ago. And I don't hate Keanu Reeves in general, but he just lacks the charisma that Spike has.
The thing is, unlike Dragonball, CB seems actually feasible to transfer to live action without too much trouble. It would be more a matter of proper actors and scripting.
Frankly, I kind of thought that Matthew Fox could've made a decent Spike.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 03:58:45
Subject: God I hate Hollywood
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Fireknife Shas'el
A bizarre array of focusing mirrors and lenses turning my phrases into even more accurate clones of
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Now all they need is a live-action Evangerion movie and all the anime I used to watch as a kid will have been remade into awesome movies.
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2009, Year of the Dog
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 04:15:03
Subject: God I hate Hollywood
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stonefox wrote:Now all they need is a live-action Evangerion movie and all the anime I used to watch as a kid will have been remade into awesome movies.
As a kid?
So, we're talking about last year, right?
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Man, that's the joy of Anime! To revel in the complete and utter wastefullness of making an unstoppable nuclear-powered combat andriod in the shape of a cute little girl, who has the ability to fall in love and wears an enormous bow in her hair. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 04:15:05
Subject: Re:God I hate Hollywood
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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I’m not normally the kind of guy to worry about Hollywood movies based on tv franchises, but this one strikes me as a pretty bad idea.
The novel thing about Cowboy Bebop was the way individual episodes followed different genre conventions. You got a noir episode followed by a Shakespearean tragedy. I’m not sure how a film can capture that schizophrenic style, or if they’ll even try. Everything else that going on was fairly standard anime stuff, smart ass lead who’s good at kicking people, big tough grim engineer guy, bratty girl prone to gratuitous fan service. This was fair enough given the innovation going on in the style of the show.
I suspect the heavily stylised elements will be ditched and we’ll get a bounty hunter in space who knows kung-fu, and a hot female lead. Anything else is up for grabs.
It doesn’t really matter though, if Highlander 2 didn’t manage to travel back in time to make the original a sucky movie, it’s unlikely CB the movie will manage it.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 04:19:18
Subject: Re:God I hate Hollywood
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sebster wrote:I’m not normally the kind of guy to worry about Hollywood movies based on tv franchises, but this one strikes me as a pretty bad idea.
I think what Hollywood doesn't understand is that people liked CB because it wasn't Hollywood.
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Man, that's the joy of Anime! To revel in the complete and utter wastefullness of making an unstoppable nuclear-powered combat andriod in the shape of a cute little girl, who has the ability to fall in love and wears an enormous bow in her hair. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 04:20:21
Subject: God I hate Hollywood
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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I really dislike anime. I find the animation style of the majority of it (not all of it) to be quite horrid, and the minimalistic nature turns me off.
That said, I think Cowboy Bebop is God's gift to cartoons, the single greatest television show ever created by man, and the pinnacle of story-telling. I adore that show more than anything.
And I really wouldn't mind Keanu as Spike.
There.
I said it.
I really wouldn't. As long as he's friendly/snarky Keanu, not overwhelmed-all-the-time 'whoa' Keanu, he'll be fine. He's got the looks and we know he has the moves. Honestly, getting the right Jet, Fay and Ed would be harder.
[EDIT]: Having said all of that, let me make my position clear on what I think the movie would be. The movie, regardless of who they get to star in it, will be terrible, because there is a 5th main character in Bebop - the music. Cowboy Bebop was a show about music, and without the music that was in the show, there is no Bebop. Removing the music from Bebop would ruin it like removing Spike or Ed or even Ein would do.
Hollywood will not get that.
They will not understand that music was the 5th character in Bebop and we'll either get techno, heavy metal, or needless classical stings.
And that will ruin it completely.
BUE
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 04:39:03
Subject: God I hate Hollywood
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
The Realms of the Unreal, of the Glandeco-Angelinnian War Storm, Caused by the Child Slave Rebellion
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H.B.M.C. wrote:
[EDIT]: Having said all of that, let me make my position clear on what I think the movie would be. The movie, regardless of who they get to star in it, will be terrible, because there is a 5th main character in Bebop - the music. Cowboy Bebop was a show about music, and without the music that was in the show, there is no Bebop. Removing the music from Bebop would ruin it like removing Spike or Ed or even Ein would do.
Hollywood will not get that.
They will not understand that music was the 5th character in Bebop and we'll either get techno, heavy metal, or needless classical stings.
And that will ruin it completely.
BUE
Exactly.
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2 - The hobbiest - The guy who likes the minis for what they are, loves playing with painted armies, using offical mini's in a friendly setting. Wants to play on boards with good terrain.
Devlin Mud is cheating.
More people have more rights now. Suck it.- Polonius
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 05:12:31
Subject: Re:God I hate Hollywood
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Fireknife Shas'el
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Why did hollywood & DC stop killing, with its curse, Supermen with a Reeve based name. They stopped one short, one who karmatically deserves it for having, knowingly(yes he knows hes a bad actor),killed so many films.
H.M.B.C., Don't know if impossible to cast a living person. Was thinking John Cusak would ROCK as Spike and he understands the importance of music as a main character. Uses it in a lot of his movies.
Everything else, pretty much spot on but I might add.  Keanu as Spike is a sign of the end. I hope it kicks off a freakin' revolution where the people string up those hollyweird Idiots.(Too Strong?)
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Officially elevated by St. God of Yams to the rank of Scholar of the Church of the Children of the Eternal Turtle Pie at 11:42:36 PM 05/01/09
If they are too stupid to live, why make them?
In the immortal words of Socrates, I drank what??!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 07:27:50
Subject: God I hate Hollywood
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Rampaging Carnifex
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I keep hoping that this is just some big joke and hollywood is performing the largest scale trolling in history. But its more likely that God is dead and that such things really happen, someone somewhere thought that people would go to see this, and somehow, someway, people are going to see it in record numbers anyway.
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Dakka. You need more of it. No exceptions.
You ask me for an evil hamburger. I hand you a raccoon.-Captain Gordino
What are you talking about? They're Space Marines, which are heroic. They need to be able to do all the heroic stuff. They fight aliens and don't afraid of anything. -Orkeosarus
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 10:07:22
Subject: Re:God I hate Hollywood
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Crafty Bray Shaman
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That is....disconcerting. Hopefully they get an actress that accurately matches the way that Faye's boobies perform! There I said it.
I heard the TB Y:The Last Man was being made into a film as well.
Somethings should just be left great and obscure to us and not pushed into the mainstream, because being a pseudo/faux nerd/geek is so trendy now-adays. I swear I'm going to change my wardrobe to include a mandatory daily allowance of pocket protectors, white breast pocket shirts, large black-rim glasses, suspenders, a bow-tie, and black high waters with penny loafers and white socks.
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Jean-luke Pee-card, of thee YOU ES ES Enter-prize
Make it so!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 14:06:30
Subject: God I hate Hollywood
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Fireknife Shas'el
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Using Keanu reeves for Spike is like doing a remake of Clockwork orange and casting Paulie Shore in Malcolm McDowells part.
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Officially elevated by St. God of Yams to the rank of Scholar of the Church of the Children of the Eternal Turtle Pie at 11:42:36 PM 05/01/09
If they are too stupid to live, why make them?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 14:48:31
Subject: God I hate Hollywood
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Barpharanges
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H.B.M.C. wrote:I really dislike anime. I find the animation style of the majority of it (not all of it) to be quite horrid, and the minimalistic nature turns me off.
That said, I think Cowboy Bebop is God's gift to cartoons, the single greatest television show ever created by man, and the pinnacle of story-telling. I adore that show more than anything.
And I really wouldn't mind Keanu as Spike.
There.
I said it.
I really wouldn't. As long as he's friendly/snarky Keanu, not overwhelmed-all-the-time 'whoa' Keanu, he'll be fine. He's got the looks and we know he has the moves. Honestly, getting the right Jet, Fay and Ed would be harder.
[EDIT]: Having said all of that, let me make my position clear on what I think the movie would be. The movie, regardless of who they get to star in it, will be terrible, because there is a 5th main character in Bebop - the music. Cowboy Bebop was a show about music, and without the music that was in the show, there is no Bebop. Removing the music from Bebop would ruin it like removing Spike or Ed or even Ein would do.
Hollywood will not get that.
They will not understand that music was the 5th character in Bebop and we'll either get techno, heavy metal, or needless classical stings.
And that will ruin it completely.
BUE
See, my problem is that I don't think even the friendly/snarky Keanu is appropriate. Looks-wise, he's close, but he really just has a different swagger to Spike.
I agree with everything else in your post though. The producers would be stupid to not get Yoko Kanno and The Seatbelts to the music. It really did make the show (similarly to the music in Samurai Champloo). I could see them getting away without having Ed in the show, though.
My one hope at least is that they keep the fairly existentialist feel to the movie (ie. no "origins"....things just are - akin to how Christopher Nolan introduced Heath Ledger's Joker as absolute).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 16:39:48
Subject: God I hate Hollywood
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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God I hate anime
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 16:50:02
Subject: God I hate Hollywood
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Dominating Dominatrix
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So, this Cowboy Bebop thing....is it any good?
Seriosly, I've heard it's about some Sci-Fi Bounty Hunter and I like what I've heard of the music, but that's about it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 17:31:50
Subject: God I hate Hollywood
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Anung Un Rama wrote:So, this Cowboy Bebop thing....is it any good?
It's largely considered to be the best anime of all time, (or at the very least in the top three) so it's definately something you'll want to check out if you haven't seen it yet. (You can watch the whole show and the movie on you tube)
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Man, that's the joy of Anime! To revel in the complete and utter wastefullness of making an unstoppable nuclear-powered combat andriod in the shape of a cute little girl, who has the ability to fall in love and wears an enormous bow in her hair. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 17:47:13
Subject: God I hate Hollywood
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
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Snark, better then Macross or Gundam?
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 18:31:53
Subject: God I hate Hollywood
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Well, as long as there at it, why not do Akira with Paul Walker and The Rock, perfect casting. Either way, I wont be seeing this movie. Its sad enough that they are even making it, but its worse when they make money.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 18:42:02
Subject: God I hate Hollywood
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Why is it called Cowboy bebop?
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/19 18:58:55
Subject: God I hate Hollywood
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Dominating Dominatrix
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Because Cowboy Rocksteady was already taken
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