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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/02 17:13:07
Subject: "The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Wing Commander
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Maybe you could add some of the Russian Combat Engineers?
(They're the ones with the single large metal plate on thier chests. I presume to deflect blasts when diffusing things, I'm not too sure)
Just thougt some of them as a diorama would be pretty cool next. Clearing mines or what-not.
Great work on the KV-1 so-far! And I really like the crew too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/02 18:18:40
Subject: "The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Disjointed Entity wrote:Maybe you could add some of the Russian Combat Engineers?
(They're the ones with the single large metal plate on thier chests. I presume to deflect blasts when diffusing things, I'm not too sure)
Just thougt some of them as a diorama would be pretty cool next. Clearing mines or what-not.
Great work on the KV-1 so-far! And I really like the crew too.
Those guys are cool, I've seen photos. I actually considered some Sappers but since this is set in Russian held defensive positions prior to the start of the main engagements at Kursk it wouldnt really fit.
Definately an idea for future projects though!
Thanks for the compliments on the KV-1 , I hoping to make the tankers better soon and have everything positioned how want it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/02 18:53:40
Subject: "The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Wing Commander
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Can't wait for the final images!
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"In the Grim Darkness of the far future; there is only countless Requisition Forms, filled in Triplicate."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/03 16:51:19
Subject: Re:"The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Managed to finally get some painting done on the GAZ.
Hitting the KV-1 shortly and hope to have some images up shortly.
Base colours and markings:
The masking tape worked really well for marking out the white stripe, theres a tiny bit of bleed on the curved edges but this can be tidied up later with very little effort. As you can see I also used it to protect the clear plastic windscreen. Leaving the edges exposed so that the paint would cover the frames. Using an airbrush to mark out the colour of the frames is much easier than trying to paint it by hand with a brush.
Windscreen:
Once I had peeled the masking tape off it gave a nice clean finish.
Basic colours and decals:
The Staff car is now ready for the next stages, filters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/03 16:54:17
Subject: "The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Can't wait to see it finished.
On an off-topic note once more,I would really love to see a diorama of the presentation of the sword of Stalingrad(don't know if I spelled that wrong).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/03 16:59:46
Subject: Re:"The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Stalingrad would be a great battle to model, I've been considering either the defence of Stalingrad or the fall of Berlin as my next WW2 project.
A diorama of these battles would be great as it would allow me to model two factions (Red Army and German forces) as well as a ruined city scape.
Maybe when this project is finished
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/03 17:01:48
Subject: "The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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I am talking about when Stalin accepted the actual sword of stalingrad,maybe I have my history all screwed up though.
But yeah those two battles would be rather nice if kept to strict historical guidelines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/03 17:07:26
Subject: Re:"The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Regular Dakkanaut
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You mean this story:
THE SWORD OF STALINGRAD
Ten months after the German surrender, Winston Churchill recognized the extraordinary suffering and heroism of the Stalingrad people. He presented the jeweled "Sword of Stalingrad" to the Soviet leader. It bears this engraving:
To the steelhearted citizens of Stalingrad, a gift from King George VI as a token of the homage of the British people.
Yeah that would be cool to see too! Tamiya do a famous generals box set but I'm not sure if it includes Churchill...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/03 17:10:29
Subject: "The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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I just think it is a very nice moment in history to make a diorama out of.I saw in the last project you did that there was Russian writng,can you speak Russian?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/03 19:50:02
Subject: "The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Fall of Berlin.
Dude.
If you do the Soviets hanging the flag from the Reichstag, I will be eternally indebted. The coolest thing EVER.
sA
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My Loyalist P&M Log, Irkutsk 24th
"And what is wrong with their life? What on earth is less reprehensible than the life of the Levovs?"
- American Pastoral, Philip Roth
Oh, Death was never enemy of ours!
We laughed at him, we leagued with him, old chum.
No soldier's paid to kick against His powers.
We laughed - knowing that better men would come,
And greater wars: when each proud fighter brags
He wars on Death, for lives; not men, for flags. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/03 21:54:32
Subject: "The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Regular Dakkanaut
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smiling Assassin wrote:Fall of Berlin.
Dude.
If you do the Soviets hanging the flag from the Reichstag, I will be eternally indebted. The coolest thing EVER.
sA
Haha thats sounds like a challenge Sir!
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I managed to get some more painting done this evening. It's rather late so the light is rather extreme, so apologies for the bad pictures.
Officers: I decided to try painting the skin and faces first, i've seen this method used by other painters but had always worked in reverse before, starting with the uniforms and finishing with the faces. It made an interesting change and I think it's an approach that'll try again in the future.
I also managed to get some base coating done on the KV-1 but sadly had to stop before I could finish it completely.
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I've been thinking alot about the colour scheme for the KV-1 recently and did some more research. I didn't like the idea of just painting another plain dark green tank again, after all I just did this with the T34/76.
I also figured that something else a bit different with a more summer feel would be appropriate for the scene, and found a few different examples of camo schemes on KV-1's (hence the light base coat colour).
I especially like the three tone scheme, and saw a similar thing done on an SU-122 in Xtreme Modelling magazine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/05 00:09:53
Subject: Re:"The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/05 06:41:59
Subject: "The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Looking good Gundam.I am liking the officers.Also the three tone scheme strikes me as the way to go with that tank.Those flowers are a nice little touch looks like you have got the whole base almost finished.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/05 13:08:34
Subject: Re:"The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Thanks Deff, yeah I've had a lot of positive feedback over on Warseer on the 3 tone scheme so I'm going to give that a shot. I like it because its different and interesting, totally unlike what I did on the T34, so it will be a chance to try some new techniques and effects.
Theres actually a whole shed load of work to go on the base! I wish I were nearly finished. To be honest I added the plants and clumps of grass last night quite late while I was watching TV just to get a feeling for how it will look and and to start off. I have to bulk it out a bit with more grass and shrubs, mostly along the river bank and in certain areas on the main field, as well as add loose leaves on the ground, ferns, and other bits.
I got some great paper plants from Frederus Rex yesterday and I'm planning to add those in near the water side and scattered across the main field. I can't really carry on with that until I have the farm house put down. Once I have all the features in place like the building and the vehicles I can decide where to place the rest of the plants and grass in a natural way.
The farm house is coming along well and I've finished the basic wooden structure, I just need to do the roof to finish it off and then paint it and attach it to the base. I plan to have some ivy growing up the walls of the farm house too.
After all thats done, and the MG nest and Tank barriers painted I can work on the crystal resin and fill the river.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/05 14:09:07
Subject: "The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Sounds good,get cracking!
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"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member."-Groucho Marx
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/05 18:28:27
Subject: Re:"The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Regular Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/05 18:31:03
Subject: "The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Death-Dealing Dark Angels Devastator
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Love what you did with the plants and wildflowers along the stream bank! Really enjoyed the previous diorama and this one seems to be shaping up even better. Its all those small details that really make the scene believable and a real joy to see. Keep up the great work!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/05 18:36:27
Subject: Re:"The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Thanks Shellfish! The Farm house is still quite WIP, but most else of the actual terrain is done now.
As I said to Deff there's still alot of filling out of the plants and vegetation to go, but edging closer all the time! I'm looking forward to getting to work with the Crystal Resin. I've never used it before so it will be fun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/05 19:13:00
Subject: "The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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I like the farmhouse thus far.Which kit are those flowers from?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/05 19:28:25
Subject: Re:"The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Regular Dakkanaut
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After some discussion with a poster on Warseer I decided that I wasn't happy with the corners of the farm house, so I added some planks to finish the edges with textured plasticard.
Looking at reference photos of wooden buildings I think it gives a better finish.
Deff - The flowers are from a German company called Fredericus-Rex. They have a brilliant range of scenic accessories.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/05 19:33:59
Subject: Re:"The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
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This blog is so cool. The whole project is coming along great, keep up the good work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/09 10:26:06
Subject: Re:"The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Regular Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/09 18:16:16
Subject: "The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Looking good.I am liking the farmhouse and the tank,keep up the good work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/09 18:38:50
Subject: "The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Wing Commander
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Underneath the picture of the guy in blue Trousers, it said Russian General.
Just thought I'd point that one out to you Gundam.
looking great otherwise!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/09 19:19:24
Subject: "The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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Great camo man, looking really good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/10 01:47:17
Subject: Re:"The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
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Great progress. I am shure that the camo will look ace once finished.
BTW, are the russian uniform pics from Osprey books? Have been thinking about getting some of them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/10 02:13:18
Subject: "The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Disjointed Entity wrote:Underneath the picture of the guy in blue Trousers, it said Russian General.
Just thought I'd point that one out to you Gundam.
looking great otherwise!
Your quite right, that picture is a Russian General, and if you look at the second example on the third picture your see that he is a Cossak Officer. Blue trousers with red stripes were very common in Soviet Uniforms, with various width and thickness of the stripe. For our purposes though I'll be using this example, of a Russian Tank Crew Officer from Kursk circa 1943:
His red stripe is a lot less pronounced than he General's uniform, being much thinner.
Northern as for the colour plates of uniforms these are from an old hardback book called "Army Uniforms of World War 2" part of the Blandford Colour Series published by Blandford. It's quite an old book, my edition was published 1973, I'm not sure if its still in press.
Thanks for the compliments on the Camo, I don't often do camo schemes on armour so it was very interesting for me to try. I'm quite pleased with the result so far, but I think it will look a lot better with weathering and paint chips etc. Right now its way too clean!
I also managed to do a lot more work on the KV-1 tonight, but the lighting is bad and doesn't show the detail nicely so I will take some more photos in natural daylight and post tomorrow.
Did some more work on the farm house, distressing the wood and I also made a start layering the thatch roof. The Straw roof needs a
lot more work and is still very heavily WIP, but these images give an idea for the direction it will take.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/10 02:42:59
Subject: "The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Tough Traitorous Guardsman
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That wood is looking great! Nice work GM. I think the thatch is going to look good too.
Cheers
Dave
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/10 07:08:30
Subject: "The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Agreed,the wood is looking very nice.Also with a little more work the thatch will look very nice aswell.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/10 09:32:58
Subject: "The Lines are drawn" The Battle of Kursk Summer 1943 - Soviet KV-1 WW2 Diorama
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Wing Commander
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Ahh, I stand corrected. I just didn't want your dioramam to be a bit messed up historically, seing as it's looking so good!
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