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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 12:46:13
Subject: Zombies - At last science takes the threat seriously
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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person person wrote:
Man, up north, our only hope is a good winter against zombies, even then, I live in the land of rainy winters.
Really cold winters is a mixed blessing. THey'll freeze (hopefully you won't), but thaw out again in the spring. What looked like safe areas become dangerous again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 12:50:43
Subject: Zombies - At last science takes the threat seriously
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Actually, wouldn't decomposition put paid to Zombie land pretty quickly. Lets get over that they can still move and function-say its some sort of electrochemical handwavem.
But the basic workings of nature are still in play. Bacteria still consume. Maggots still party. Bodies will still decompose quickly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 13:03:58
Subject: Zombies - At last science takes the threat seriously
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
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The zombie virus apparently deters most decomposition by killing most of the bateria and bugs that would normally take care of such things.
Hence their flesh will only slowly wear away and decompose.
Although with such a huge quantity of zombie flesh, you would expect that the bacteria which could process their flesh would explode in numbers, but I guess zombie film makers never take this into account
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 13:38:07
Subject: Re:Zombies - At last science takes the threat seriously
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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Frazzled
Actually, wouldn't decomposition put paid to Zombie land pretty quickly. Lets get over that they can still move and function-say its some sort of electrochemical handwavem.
But the basic workings of nature are still in play. Bacteria still consume. Maggots still party. Bodies will still decompose quickly.
True, but I think that the infection (cos lets face it we are not talking about magic reanimation ala warhammer FB, that would be ridiculous!) would combat decomposition whilst the Z still had energy/reserves to maintain itself. They don't eat braaainnzz for nothing you know! Don't forget that in 28 DL the Z's eventually starved allowing the good ol' US of A (  ) to make claim, erm I mean rescue the survivors in 28 WL (poor film in comparison btw).
Logically (  ) the host body would still function in much the same way, muscle still inflates, sinews/tendons still pull; not necessarily using oxygenated blood ala normal hoomans, but something the infection mutates from it (ergo the lack of palour, slowness, squishyness and oozy "blood"). The mutated hooman physiology if still working to some degree would mean that they could hibernat (probably the wrong word) in one of many abandoned buildings when energy gets low meaning that there would be a continued threat for some thing after their last meal.
Re Z strength, without pain and a suitable supply of the Z adrenalin (or equivalent mutated from consumed braaainzz of course) I think we might find that Z's are suprisingly strong for a dead person, therefore should be avoided in groups.
So in conclusion although the Z apocalypse would be bloody and exciting but it would peater down after the food ran out, and by food I mean us. And by us us I mean you meatshield!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 13:50:39
Subject: Re:Zombies - At last science takes the threat seriously
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But those weren't zombies, they were people with a virus that just made them very angry. They don't really need brains just flesh, I guess they could starve to death. By that I mean that their own body uses itself up completely for energy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 13:52:35
Subject: Zombies - At last science takes the threat seriously
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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According to the Zombie Survival Guide (ZSG), zombies don't need to eat etc, though I don't think this is the case.
According to the ZSG, zombies don't have any functioning organs, as they are dead. They are "strong" as they don't get tired.
I'm note convinced of the not needing to eat etc because nerves and muscles need some form of metabolism to keep on working at the very least to replace/reform ATP and pump the ions back into/out of the nerves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 13:57:32
Subject: Zombies - At last science takes the threat seriously
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Killer Klaivex
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SilverMK2 wrote:According to the Zombie Survival Guide (ZSG), zombies don't need to eat etc, though I don't think this is the case.
According to the ZSG, zombies don't have any functioning organs, as they are dead. They are "strong" as they don't get tired.
I'm note convinced of the not needing to eat etc because nerves and muscles need some form of metabolism to keep on working at the very least to replace/reform ATP and pump the ions back into/out of the nerves.
According to the Zombie Survival Guide? Who was the douche who wrote such nonsense? And why should they be right?
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 14:04:33
Subject: Re:Zombies - At last science takes the threat seriously
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Lady of the Lake
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 14:06:44
Subject: Zombies - At last science takes the threat seriously
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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True, don't believe every thing you read, they'll have you beleiving that if you kick a Z in the nuts it won't double over in pain (the only area they feel it, even Z's have to keep their Mojo somewhere!)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 14:18:05
Subject: Re:Zombies - At last science takes the threat seriously
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Latest idea: However their "body" works, it sure won't survive a date with one of these big harvester-threshers. So, if you live in an agricultural area and you happen to have the nevessary gas/fuel...just cruise one of these things through the town.  Preferrably with some friends to kick of the "smart" ones trying to climb up the sides.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 14:22:21
Subject: Zombies - At last science takes the threat seriously
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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Yeah, they are quite complex (and delicate) machines
Plus they are slow and not exactly nimble.
So probably not the best idea.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 20:30:14
Subject: Zombies - At last science takes the threat seriously
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos
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Moopy wrote:Forget that remake, watch the original. Man... filming a remake less than a year after the original? We need people who can come up with their own ideas.
Figures it would be a remake. How dissapointing.
Cheese Elemental wrote:
According to the Zombie Survival Guide? Who was the douche who wrote such nonsense? And why should they be right?
The survival guide is a good read on the crapper. What you should really check out it World War Z. By far my favorite zombie fiction. Written by the same guy.
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Veteran Sergeant wrote:Oh wait. His fluff, at this point, has him coming to blows with Lionel, Angryon, Magnus, and The Emprah.  One can only assume he went into the Eye of Terror because he still hadn't had a chance to punch enough Primarchs yet.
Albatross wrote:I guess we'll never know. That is, until Frazzled releases his long-awaited solo album 'Touch My Weiner'. Then we'll know.
warboss wrote:I marvel at their ability to shoot the entire foot off with a shotgun instead of pistol shooting individual toes off like most businesses would.
Mr Nobody wrote:Going to war naked always seems like a good idea until someone trips on gravel.
Ghidorah wrote: You need to quit hating and trying to control other haters hating on other people's hobbies that they are trying to control.
ShumaGorath wrote:Posting in a thread where fat nerds who play with toys make fun of fat nerds who wear costumes outdoors.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Good thing it wasn't attacked by the EC, or it would be the assault on Magnir's Crack. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/20 22:38:18
Subject: Zombies - At last science takes the threat seriously
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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Zombie Survival Guide has to be best survival guide for a non existing event there is.
Everything that is suggested are common sense actions. No crazy ideas like "Chapter 3: Kung-Fu your way to safety!" Or "Get in your tank." Everything suggested are things that an everyday person can do.
Possible safe areas are discussed with their pros and cons and what you should expect if you try and hide in each. The good/bads about weapons as well. The book is a testament to critical thinking for staying alive against a zombie.
ZSG's zombies were toxic to animals so they weren't being eaten in return. Even if we take that out, decay will be very different and I would assume would be mostly dependent on temperature, rain fall and humidity. Cold climates will have problems A LOT longer than temperate. Dry climates (or those that get trapped in buildings/mines/subways/etc will keep them around longer as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/21 09:24:18
Subject: Zombies - At last science takes the threat seriously
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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I'm waiting to see WWZ in my local book shop, as I found ZSG to be quite interesting (and also quite fun).
It would be interesting to see a guide published for different sorts of zombies that have been seen in fiction (or in real life and hushed up - dun dun duuuhhhhh!), and how to survive against each sort.
Sort of like ZSG, but with a bit for each species of zombie. So Weapon X against zombie A, B, C, pros and cons etc.
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