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Whats anyones guess on the amount of deamons/cultist/townies?

17 people. I'm thinking 1/4/12 maybe.

We could make this a game

To the no-lynchers: Not lynching anyone on the first day is a bad plan. Last game I was in, the scum players simply killed the player with the lowest vote count on the first night, giving practically no info about themselves. Stringing someone up on the first night has quite a high chance of hitting an innocent, but if they're town, they usually turn out to be a distracting player that would have been a hindrance later on anyway. Getting people to vote can give us at least a clue to who is scummiest, and force people to explain their actions. It's what ends the RVP! It's brutal, but a neccessary sacrifice.

Just how the game is played! >

I'm going to follow that up with an addendum that stringing me up on the first day would be bad for everyone involved and I wouldn't recommend it at all

Oooh, and UNVOTE: BISHOP cause it was a silly vote anyway and he didn't react by flailing around with 9 pointed throwing stars and glorying the forces of chaos. Damn.

Scarper wrote:To the no-lynchers: Not lynching anyone on the first day is a bad plan. Last game I was in, the scum players simply killed the player with the lowest vote count on the first night, giving practically no info about themselves. Stringing someone up on the first night has quite a high chance of hitting an innocent, but if they're town, they usually turn out to be a distracting player that would have been a hindrance later on anyway. Getting people to vote can give us at least a clue to who is scummiest, and force people to explain their actions. It's what ends the RVP! It's brutal, but a neccessary sacrifice.

Just how the game is played! >

Agreed.

Scarper wrote:I'm going to follow that up with an addendum that stringing me up on the first day would be bad for everyone involved and I wouldn't recommend it at all

This would be highly suspicious if it weren't suspicious.

Scarper wrote:Oooh, and UNVOTE: BISHOP cause it was a silly vote anyway and he didn't react by flailing around with 9 pointed throwing stars and glorying the forces of chaos. Damn.

I thought about doing that, but then decided not to be like Drk_O

Bishop, I've only ever been lynched once as an innocent as that was my first game. So watch your tongue n00bie.

I think both Bishop and Drk_Oblit are jumping on each other, I don't think either of you are suspicous.

Now to those voting No Lynch: It's not good to not lynch people, lynching is the only way the town can kill people they think are the most suspicous. It's ok to not have a vote, we have 12 more days of discussion and when it picks up (It's starting too) we will have a clearer picture of who we want to lynch. We only want to lynch people near the end of the day too.

Bish, I do agree with Dark O. In the other two games, you were active but not leading the game. It does appear you're trying to fill the Thor shaped hole.

To clarify what I did earlier, I was quick to unvote Scott when the votes turned against him as we could quite posssibly have 5 scum.

Lord-Loss wrote:Bishop, I've only ever been lynched once as an innocent as that was my first game. So watch your tongue n00bie.

Sounds like fisticuffs at dawn between you and I, sah! And I'm pretty sure I said, in the games I was in. And yes, you weren't innocent, but you still died early

I'm actually not jumping all over Drk_O, I just figure the best way to deal with him is to give a little back.

ginger_nid_dude wrote:Bish, I do agree with Dark O. In the other two games, you were active but not leading the game. It does appear you're trying to fill the Thor shaped hole.

As I said in my post, that is exactly what my thinking is. I can't fill the Thor shaped hole, because I have neither the time nor the analytically evil mind necessary for such a task, but I can start to create a Mafia persona for myself. So far I have been a confused n00bling (as pointed out my LL, I still am), I didn't have a style and the game played me, rather than the other way around. I need to test all the ways of playing this game, and I know that many helped me to find my feet, so if I can do the same to others, that will be awesome.

In short, I will be different, I will be more down to earth, a little less ditzy, and all about the Chaos Cultist destruction. Except when I'm bored.

So just a quick thing. I have this infected ingrown hair, and in order to treat it, a doc has to jam a needle right through the top, numb it, then slice it open with a scalpel.

But after 3 days of hotpacking, I popped it, and I'm in high spirits. So I'm stoked.

I also feel the need to reiterate that this is my first game, and if I'm doing anything wrong, do let me know. Cause I don't wanna ruin anything or drag the game.

That's... lovely IG... thanks for sharing.

Everyone has to have a first game, you won't find anyone here who gets angry at you because of that. We sometimes get exasperated if people don't listen, but it's just a game, so most everyone here is pretty chilled out. Except Lord-Loss. Don't look him in the eyes or you might see the burning pit of violence deep in there.

So just say what you like, get as involved as you can, make an ass of yourself or treat it like a detective game. But have fun in all you do here

I just wanna point out that it's probally better to not have someone who does what Thor did in the last game. If that certain person dies, it can really mess up the balance of the game and stop discussion. There's always a chance that person is a baddie too.

(No offense Thor)

OOC: Hey Bishop, I was trying a new playstye It didn't work of course but I got no problem with the nubbies

Paul Atreides wrote:People, calm down please! As any other citizen I know full well that any innocents killed by the inquisiton will always be taken to the emperors side, but let us not forget that more than the life of one innocent could be lost if we should choose wrongly. At least until we have something more concrete to go by let us not jump to conclusions.

Vote: No Lynch

Innocence proves nothing, we cannot stand by and let us all be killed off!

((Drk_O just has that evil smell anyway. ))

Right then.
Randomly vote and hope seems to be the plan for right now.

BishopGore wrote:

As I said in my post, that is exactly what my thinking is. I can't fill the Thor shaped hole, because I have neither the time nor the analytically evil mind necessary for such a task, but I can start to create a Mafia persona for myself.

I wouldn't think you're filling a Thor shaped hole, because he's not the only one that tries to use logic to get people axed, if I recall correctly its was he and I doing it to start, and then it felt like he was urging me along with his logic, that my logic chimed in saying something's not right here I think Thor's one of the bad guys, then he and DDRE killed me in the night.

But Thor use logic each game and more often than not tries to guide it in his favor, you've not done that yet. But once you start guiding the game, that's when I'll vote for you.

Be more like me, a wild card that tries to change method of play each game regardless of role, civilian, Inquisitor, Cultist, what ever.

I feel more suspicous of someone who tries to take control the game, a baddie wants to control the people,l to get them to vote for townies, while a townie should want the town to make it's choice and lynch the people who the town feels are suspicous.

BrotherStynier, I don't think your attacks of Drk_Oblt by you and Thor were logical at all last game. I thought it was down right silly at the time.

What are your thoughts on the recent bandwagon which developed on Viking Scott the RVS and your thought about the people involved and how suspicous you feel they are?

I see your point, but without Thor the game would have stagnated much sooner than it did. He kept asking questions and got people talking. Then again he also made people worry more about talking, every single thing you said was pulled apart and thrown back at you. I don't want to play in that style, it makes the whole experience a lot less fun.

Anyway, I think I see the way these games go, every time a major talker goes down, he next loudest steps up to take his place. Thor dominated the previous game because he had nobody to fear and everyone who caught on to him died (we weren't paying enough attention to actually notice unfortunately), so the game was ruled by him from start to finish. I don't think that will happen this game, as we have several competing voices.

Anyway. I know you didn't ask me LL, but I think the 'bandwagon' was a bunch of guys letting off steam as the game started. Mostly newbies, and GND mixed in for good measure. The first page or so is usually just larking about, so I don't think we should read too much into it, unless we're seeing some incredibly clumsy starting moves, in which case we'll have this wrapped up after a few days. Of them I'll be watching Halonachos and possibly IGLannister, but I believe it was just opening thread jitters. We should see what they're really made of as this day progresses and talk gets more structured.

Looking at LL's last post I see something of a mistaken thought there. Within the ranks of the great and good are inquisitors. They will be attempting to guide town towards lynching the Chaos Cultists, being as pro-town as it gets. You cannot assume that just because someone is making a case against someone else or arguing a point they are evil. The concept of 'town' is a group of individuals working together to form something much stronger. We have to work together as well as stay suspicious.

Inqusitiors should be blending in with the townies, they want to apeare to be your average townie, why?So they can do there work at night, the Inqusitiors abilties really depends on surviving atleast one day phase and using the knowledge he gains to his advantage during that next day phase.

The attacks on Drk_0 from my side were logical, his play style frequently jams the discussions with nonsensical things that makes it harder to weed people out. Despite, Thor siding with me against him I still feel that his removal from the last game assisted a great deal.

Did I not after we axed him begin questioning of Thor's motives? His death cleared things up and allowed other investigations to take place.

So far I put the band wagons up to inexperienced players scrambling over one another to make it look as though they are doing something useful. My issue is not with people jumping on people with votes but with people blindly voting "no vote" if they aren't careful soon enough people will have voted that and the day will be lost with nothing gained from it. It could also allow the cultists and daemons to gain an upper-hand by picking off whom ever they wanted rather than making them think about who they need to pick off.

So far people haven't been that suspicious, like I said, its just a bunch of inexperience.

I also beg to differ on the matter of Inquisitors, my most 'successful' play as an Inquisitor was one where I acted scummy. Unfortunately my subtle remarks towards people to let them know I knew what they had been were lost on them until the last moment. By then it was too late.

Playing a scummy inquisitor can be a double edged sword.

I have to laugh at the distinct majority of us being Xenos players yet here we are looking for a heretic.

I'm not sure about the make up, but isn't there one inquisitor, a couple of demons, a few cultists, and the rest are regulars?

I think it doubles like 1 inquisitor/2 demons/4 cultists/10 regulars.

You see, I'm not too sure about this. While Drk_O acted like that and I thought he may be a heretic, vikingscott voted for me. I think that the demons know the cultists and the cultists know the cultists so I thought that if Drk_O was a heretic and vikingscott moved to defend him that would make scott also a heretic or a demon. This is my first game as well, but maybe scott was like me and just voting for the hell of it.

I think the biggest proof of vikingscott's innocence is Drk_O's innocence or the survival during the night of anyone who voted against either one of them.

Although, the lack of speaking from certain players may indicate their guilt. How many players have yet to speak, 5 or so?

Also, we have like, 11 or 12 days left to vote. If I think someone is more suspicious, then I will of course change my vote.

From memory there are two inquisitors, one rogue inquisitor, one psyker, three demons, 6 regulars, and 4 cultists... Might be off about that.

Drk_Oblitr8r's reaction was just out of place, and as halonachos put out there, it seems very logical, especially since Scott is new to this...

Wow, that is incredibly role heavy. Who are the good guys, all of the inquisitors and the regulars right?

halonachos wrote:You see, I'm not too sure about this. While Drk_O acted like that and I thought he may be a heretic, vikingscott voted for me. I think that the demons know the cultists and the cultists know the cultists so I thought that if Drk_O was a heretic and vikingscott moved to defend him that would make scott also a heretic or a demon. This is my first game as well, but maybe scott was like me and just voting for the hell of it.

I think the biggest proof of vikingscott's innocence is Drk_O's innocence or the survival during the night of anyone who voted against either one of them.

I disagree entirely.

I could be an innocent, and he could be guilty, defending me so if I die, he looks innocent, or if he dies, I look guilty.

I could be guilty, and he could be innocent, defending me because, because.

halonachos wrote:Wow, that is incredibly role heavy. Who are the good guys, all of the inquisitors and the regulars right?

The psyker too I believe, go check the sign-up thread.

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:

halonachos wrote:You see, I'm not too sure about this. While Drk_O acted like that and I thought he may be a heretic, vikingscott voted for me. I think that the demons know the cultists and the cultists know the cultists so I thought that if Drk_O was a heretic and vikingscott moved to defend him that would make scott also a heretic or a demon. This is my first game as well, but maybe scott was like me and just voting for the hell of it.

I think the biggest proof of vikingscott's innocence is Drk_O's innocence or the survival during the night of anyone who voted against either one of them.

I disagree entirely.

I could be an innocent, and he could be guilty, defending me so if I die, he looks innocent, or if he dies, I look guilty.

I could be guilty, and he could be innocent, defending me because, because.

Actually, I was just thinking about that. Your reaction could be due to the fact that you are an inquisitor and the death of a fellow inquisitor was a great shock to you and of course you would react like that if somebody down-talked another inquisitor. Also, there could be some connection between the inquisitors meaning that vikingscott may be an inquisitor as well.

This is why moy vote remains as a no lynch, simply because I am not sure of who is what and what is who.

There is a psyker and one rogue psyker, the rogue psyker is on the chaos team I think though because the rules say he votes with the cultists for night-kill.

Then, vikingscott could've either moved to defend you as he may be the psyker or maybe the

Alright so. Who in here do we have even the slightest inkling is cultist then? I'm hearing dark obliterator (sp I know, sorry I'm on iPhone) someone said halonachos, vikingscott got his name thrown around...

Anyone else?

Drk_O, I do believe that there is a connection between you and scott however. This is due to the fact that only the roles would know each other and we were well within the first 4 posts.

Hmmm... looking at all of the events transpiring, I think brother stynier may have something fishy going about him.

He seems to be a seasoned veteran and has proclaimed his efficiency as an inquisitor. Meaning that he can be very adept at filling in roles and hiding the fact that he is indeed one of those roles.

Seeing as the evil heretical roles will outnumber the number of good imperial roles, I will have to vote for stynier. The fact that he is very good at hiding his role and that the majority of roles are evil make me think that he could very well indeed be a demon, cultist, or the rogue psyker.
UNVOTE: No Lynch
VOTE: Brotherstynier

Edited to add the "unvote" to my post.

If you feel that providing helpful suggestions of how I've done things in the past is a crime rather than helpful to newer players then so be it.

As it is day one I will not overly criticize you on your decision, though I will state I am certainly not a threat like you may think I am.