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spartan laser = las-gun

bucketwalrus wrote:spartan laser = las-gun

No. have you ever killed so much as a landspeeder with a lasgun? of course not. And I don't think anyone is foolish enough to think halo vehicles would be considered AV8...
A better comparison would be spartan laser =lascannon (or at least autocannon) comments like these represent an ignorant bias.

Wraithlordmechanic wrote:

bucketwalrus wrote:spartan laser = las-gun

No. have you ever killed so much as a landspeeder with a lasgun? of course not. And I don't think anyone is foolish enough to think halo vehicles would be considered AV8...
A better comparison would be spartan laser =lascannon (or at least autocannon) comments like these represent an ignorant bias.

Yeah but the spartan laser sucks to Adamantium. Halo vehicles are made out steel and titanium not Adamantium

Asherian Command wrote:
Yeah but the spartan laser sucks to Adamantium. Halo vehicles are made out steel and titanium not Adamantium

First of all adamantium is the stuff in wolverine (you might be thinking of ceramite). Second of all that sounds like an assumption. Unlike the stunted tech advances in the 40k universe, human tech in halo advances at a more realistic rate. Therefore it's likely their armor is something we wouldn't recognize. Covenant tech certainly isn't.

And no one has posed a logical reason why spartan laser isn't synonymous with lascannon.

Wraithlordmechanic wrote:

Henners91 wrote:

And how many of our generally issued small arms are capable of piercing SM armour?

Well... modern machine gun = autogun; autogun = lasgun; so all of them (if you don't think lasguns can kill marines you haven't played guard). And I think it's safe to say halo rifles are better than real life guns.

I prefer to consider the fluff effectiveness of a lasgun to be more "accurate" than the tabletop performance.

Otherwise marines would suck ass.

Lasguns can sever an unarmoured human limb, etc... even take off an Ork's arm, but against SM armour, if you believe SM books, they're not particularly good.

Comma spam!


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Adamantium is in 40k and it's used in vehicles.

Ceramite is, afaik, limited to Marine armour.

edit: Ceramite is limited to power armor of all kinds, not just Marine armor. Either that or it isn't as effective as we're led to believe, as Sisters armor provides the same level of protection Astartes power armor (so it probably is Ceramite, but if it isn't that means the Imperium has other materials that are just as good anyway).



This stupid crap again?

Halo's not that great a series. Now, I think a better question would be: Battlemechs versus Titans!

But if I had to answer, definitely a Space Marine if it is one on one combat.

The spartan, duh, they can move and fire heavy weapons, they also have the ability to corpse hump, total pwnage.

tgf wrote:corpse hump

Made me day today lol



In my opinion Spartans would be much faster then Marines and far superior in tactical situations, however im just not convinced their strong enough to actually kill one :/

That depends on what kind of fight you're talking about. I imagine a Marine outside of his armor can be pretty fast.

Henners91 wrote:
I prefer to consider the fluff effectiveness of a lasgun to be more "accurate" than the tabletop performance.

Otherwise marines would suck ass.

Lasguns can sever an unarmoured human limb, etc... even take off an Ork's arm, but against SM armour, if you believe SM books, they're not particularly good.

On the tabletop a lasgun has about an 11% chance to penetrate power armor (double that on rapid fire). I don't know about you but that doesn't scream "suck ass" to me.
Besides if you're going to consider all 40k background you also have to consider IG books in which they regularly kill tough targets with lasguns.

Melissia wrote:That depends on what kind of fight you're talking about. I imagine a Marine outside of his armor can be pretty fast.

True, however if the marine is without his armour, the spartan would have a 98% chance of taking the win.

Not really. Even Marine bones are basically internal armor (their ribcage is basically a breastplate IIRC), and they have redundant vital organs.

So is the spartan, the augmentation process converts their bones and marrow into a carbonized material so that they can withstand intense physical trauma. they have other processes through the augmentation that improves on vision, speed, brain power, and some others which i cant remember. never mind that the Armour doubles whatever they get from the augmentation making them even more powerfull.

And since the marine would have no armour and the Spartan would be sporting MJOLNIR Mk II power armour its fair to say the marine would die.

... I was assuming that they were BOTH out of armor, duh? But even then, all it would take is a few good shots from the Marine to kill the Spartan. I don't believe Spartan armor provides as good protection as Astartes Power Armor.

Well ok, theres no need to be sarcastic

Well like i said, im not convinced that a spartan can kill a marine, however if the odds were tipped so that the marine had no armour and the spartan kept his, then perhaps the spartan would take the win.