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I laugh at all the WoW hate, its like a the geek in the stripy pj's trying to tell everyone else how cool he is because he thinks dice games are awful and only dweebs would play it.

Ignoring the fact he's got a complete set of Warham's and playing Dungeon 'I killed the Dragon' Quest 209.


If you don't like it cool, no ones asking ye to play, plenty of things I can't stand, but form a club because you hate it that much and want to wave banners.. really?

Yawn yawn.

I dislike WoW because I played it and it bored me to tears. I never gave a damn about being cool, because I'm a fething nerd and I know I'm not "cool".

Melissia wrote:I never gave a damn about being cool, because I'm a fething nerd and I know I'm not "cool".

Have to agree there lol, though my initial appearance wouldnt suggest i was a nerd

I was actually referring to the stuff above your posts Melissia, finding the game boring is fine by me, it just the whole venom some folks seem to have is what gets me.

It's a bloody game, if you don't like it you play something else.

It's not like WoW came round to their house, took a dump on the carpet then smashed their favourite figs, its just, well frankly bizarre.

Which is why I associate it with the tying to seem cooler than others in the same effective hobby. I can't see any other reason for it.

This is the "games which disappointed you" thread, not the "dont talk about games which disappointed you" (aka WoW) thread.

I knew someone would start the flames. =p

Actually I'm more annoyed at WoW fanboys than people who bash WoW.

These douchebags will attack any game for not being enough like WoW, and if it is like WoW, they'll attack games for being clones. I'm sorely tempted to find them as they're playing, seal off their room, and then give them carbon monoxide poisoning through their air conditioning system. That way they can die playing the game whose zucchini they enjoy so much.

Yeah I'm with you on that, they're worse than anything. I've personally tried WaR, City of Heroes, Lotr, Everquest and Champions Online so far, always looking for a good MMO.

WoW is the most polished currently, but it probably helps I actually like the whole Warcraft backstory, if I didn't I'd have been gone ages ago.

Hoping for good things from DMO mind, and still waiting for Eve to put that avatar patch thingy in, then I'll give that monster a go as well. Oh and the new 'WoD' Vampire the Masquerade based one I'll be joining for sure.

By the time DMO and WoD arrive in 2012, if the world hasn't ended I do think either or both might have enough for me to walk out of WoW for at least a bit, if not permantly. Depends on how many MMO subs I can afford.

if you have to have a good one,

runes of Magic is a good free MMO


good (NOT my own definition) meaning like WoW, only better.

Melissia wrote:Actually I'm more annoyed at WoW fanboys than people who bash WoW.

These douchebags will attack any game for not being enough like WoW, and if it is like WoW, they'll attack games for being clones. I'm sorely tempted to find them as they're playing, seal off their room, and then give them carbon monoxide poisoning through their air conditioning system. That way they can die playing the game whose zucchini they enjoy so much.

It's not restricted to WoW fanboys "attacking any game for not being enough like WoW". WoW is, as it stands, is the measuring stick MMORPGs are held against.

Why? Because it is, as it stands, the first MMORPG that didn't just appeal to your stereotypical nerds and gamers.

stompydakka wrote:This is the "games which disappointed you" thread, not the "dont talk about games which disappointed you" (aka WoW) thread.

I knew someone would start the flames. =p

Yes, someone did start the flames. You. There's no reason to be talking about "hoping WoW players commit suicide" or any of that other crap. If you're going to post in a bloody thread, don't post like a tool. Actually put forth reasons, explain why a game disappointed you. That's what this thread is about. "Games which disappointed you". Not "games I hate" or "games that are nerdy".

Kanluwen wrote:Why? Because it is, as it stands, the first MMORPG that didn't just appeal to your stereotypical nerds and gamers.

lolwut? Pretty much everyone who plays WoW is considered a nerd, here... IE, it's not that nerds are attracted to it, but rather, playing WoW itself is associated with being a nerd/geek/whatever.

Which is really annoying when you DON'T play, and people assume you do because you're a gamer. I have better taste in games than to play WoW...

Melissia wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Why? Because it is, as it stands, the first MMORPG that didn't just appeal to your stereotypical nerds and gamers.

lolwut? Pretty much everyone who plays WoW is considered a nerd, here... IE, it's not that nerds are attracted to it, but rather, playing WoW itself is associated with being a nerd/geek/whatever.

Warcraft, while being considered fairly nerdy, actually has a playerbase that if you were to break down into a demographic that is far from just being "nerds/geeks/whatever".

Which is really annoying when you DON'T play, and people assume you do because you're a gamer. I have better taste in games than to play WoW...

I'd assume it more because you have the social ineptitude that's so stereotypical of WoW gamers.

Kanluwen wrote: There's no reason to be talking about "hoping WoW players commit suicide" or any of that other crap. If you're going to post in a bloody thread, don't post like a tool. Actually put forth reasons, explain why a game disappointed you. That's what this thread is about. "Games which disappointed you". Not "games I hate" or "games that are nerdy".

If we could, ta.

Sometimes a game just bores you though, even if you can't necessarily explain it. With WoW, for me it was pretty much a combination of every gameplay element-- from the gameplay itself, to graphics, to the sounds, to the social aspects, to the grinding... all of them put me off somehow. Frankly I find it hard to pick games which haven't done things better than WoW. Maybe RF Online is worse.

Kanluwen wrote:Warcraft, while being considered fairly nerdy, actually has a playerbase that if you were to break down into a demographic that is far from just being "nerds/geeks/whatever".

I'd have to actually look at the demographics to judge that, and frankly I'd rather spend my time doing something at least slightly more pleasant. Like rubbing my face against a cheese grater.

Kanluwen wrote:I'd assume it more because you have the social ineptitude that's so stereotypical of WoW gamers.

Don't start pushing your problems on me, dude

Im not saying I hope they would, I'm just poking fun about all suicides caused by WoW.
It may just be a urban legend, but what about the boy who killed himself to be with the developer who died?
And the guy who shot himself because his subscription ran out, and after he paid for the next month, he had to wait 1 extra day before playing and couldn't handle it?


WoW isn't a fun game for me, at all. You just grind the same monsters over and over. Get to a new area, and grind monsters that look the same but with different stats over and over, etc.

battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Im not saying I hope they would, I'm just poking fun about all suicides caused by WoW.
It may just be a urban legend, but what about the boy who killed himself to be with the developer who died?
And the guy who shot himself because his subscription ran out, and after he paid for the next month, he had to wait 1 extra day before playing and couldn't handle it?

Because suicide is such a great thing to make jokes about, right?

In almost every case of these suicides, there's alot more factors involved but the media latches onto the fact that the person played a game. It's like whenever a school shooting happens and they find the kid played Grand Theft Auto.

Probably just more Urban myths, plus when does the actions of one or two sad folks dictate the mindset of the whole population.

It's like all the rubbish those of us into RPG's had to put up with in the late eighties and early nineties.

Same with those kids shooting folks, and GTA gets blamed, its all nonsense.

Finding the game not fun due to the reasons you gave is fair enough, its why I didn't like Metal Gear. None of them, I am sure I am in a minority for many gamers, but I can't stand them, don't find the stealth mechanic much fun at all.
I certainly don't hate or even care if anyone else likes them mind, I let em play what they want to play.

Just to throw a small cat in amongst the pigeons, I would say if anyone gets the chance they should give WoW one more go after Cata launches.
The changes to the quests and the sort of things you do now are so different to what has gone before. Yes there are still killing quests, but I'd be shocked to find many games in the fantasy genre that don't require you getting out there and blatting some Orcs at some point.

The added bonus of course is you don't need Cata to see the changes. The expansion gives you the new races, and the lvl 85 content. The world change is so dramatic they couldn't phase it, so everyone will get the new look Azeroth on Dec 7th no matter the last expansion you brought.

Of course me being a big fan of Diablo 2 probably helped my like of WoW, once youve grinded that game for gear, WoW was easy.

But yeah, back on topic, Metal Gear Solid, never liked or got into the game, never saw what the fuss was about, my brother tried to talk me up to play it and yep, was seriously dissapointed after I played.

There are plenty of games that have just disappointed me.

the console version of "IL2 Sturmovik" was just terrible.. you cant tell me that the slightest adjustment with the controller joystick would cause me to spin uncontrollably into the ground (not stalling, because i was at full throttle the whole time but the slightest movement in my joysticks caused most every plane to veer out of control and crash)

Army of TWO the 40th Day, After the brilliance that was the first AoT, i found many elements of the second one to be just half baked, and no where near the level of the first.

Gran Turismo: Prologue. nuff said.

I recently got into a slight "argument" over WoW with a co-worker, who claimed that my 40k hobby was much 'worse' than WoW, to which i replied that, at the end of the day, i have all these miniatures that i built and painted myself, what do you have sitting around that others can see your "accomplishments" ??

The weird thing is, I like Diablo 2, but now WoW.
Probably due to the multiple fethers walking around in WoW, the cheesy graphics, the multiple dead bodies from people falling, the people who stand inside the mailbox so you can't click, and all things like that.


Also, when a kid writes a suicide note about how he is going to be with a developer in the afterlife, well, you can sure as hell blame the game for that one. I know suicide isn't a subject to joke about, but I can't help but bring them up. Also, I'm not making fun of the kids for killing themselves, but for being so obsessed with WoW they would kill themselves.
I mean, answer me this:
If Blizz instantly, and permanently, shut down WoW tomorrow, don't you think some people would kill themselves?

Maybe, some folks need things to survive, if the goverment banned Alchohol or cigerettes and removed them compleately from existance, I'm sure many folks would be on the edge there as well.

None of those are things folks require, but that doesn't lesson the fact that many people who play the game are not these reclusive loners folks try to make them out to be.

I note a few comments here are about the bad community, and I'd agree if the only communication you share in game is Trade chat, then yeah its pretty poor.

However I'm there because of the guild of people I play with, who contain mostly adults. Quite a few of us married and playing with partners (11-12 couples at last count) so we obviously got something out of it that maybe others haven't found.

That is probably the main factor I'm still there, one of the things we are loving for Cata is the new Guild stuff (a lot of which seems ripped from WaR) but for us it's going to be great.

You know, level eighty five content doesn't matter to me when I ended my subscription before ANY of the expansions

I'm not starting it up again. The art style alone is enough for that, horrendously cartoony in a way that is completely and utterly unappealing to me. And it hasn't really improved, yes, I've seen the new graphics.

Fable, SPORE, presumably other games.

The weird thing is, I like Diablo 2, but now WoW.
Probably due to the multiple fethers walking around in WoW, the cheesy graphics, the multiple dead bodies from people falling, the people who stand inside the mailbox so you can't click, and all things like that.

Or it could be the fact that the games are absolutely dissimilar. About the only mechanic they share is loot, which is still quite different due to the pacing difference in both games.



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I love the fact that fat miniatures wargamers can so reliably hate on other peoples hobbies that it's an easy money bet to see a WoW hate flamewar in everything semi related to videogames here. The irony is palpable.

battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Also, when a kid writes a suicide note about how he is going to be with a developer in the afterlife, well, you can sure as hell blame the game for that one.

Um no you cant, did the game make the boy kill himself?? It sure as hell didnt. If anybody is to blame its that soad "God"(Quoted as I dont believe in him, no offence to those who do) as "He" killed the developer which then caused the boy to commit suicide. Sure the guy may have made some amazing content for Wow but it wasnt the game that caused the bou to commit suicide.

Back on-topic though, a game that disappointed was Sonic Unleashed the werehog levels were just attrocious.

Oh another one that dissapointed me was Sims 3, not so much for the gameplay which was as expected. In fact since the expansions have come out I've creapt further and further back in.

My issue was the shop at launch, theres a lot of that happening atm, DLC at launch that should be in the game. Whenever that happens at the moment, it really frustrates me.

Should be for extras, or stuff down the road that took more time to design, such as the GTA packs.

Fallout New Vegas.
I haven't played it, and I never will, after the designers basically said it was just a glorified expansion pack. Everything looks the same as in FO3, and it is running on the same game engine.

How could Sonic Unleashed disappoint you? Seriously, have you actually learned anything from the Sonic franchise, or do you still hold on to a vain hope?

battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Fallout New Vegas.
I haven't played it, and I never will, after the designers basically said it was just a glorified expansion pack. Everything looks the same as in FO3, and it is running on the same game engine.

Thanks for reminding me of Fallout 3.

Was such a crap, boring and frankly unchallenging game imo. The story sucked and was a bit predictable. Shame really would have felt it deserved more comin from Bethesda.

johnscott10 wrote:

battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Fallout New Vegas.
I haven't played it, and I never will, after the designers basically said it was just a glorified expansion pack. Everything looks the same as in FO3, and it is running on the same game engine.

Thanks for reminding me of Fallout 3.

Was such a crap, boring and frankly unchallenging game imo. The story sucked and was a bit predictable. Shame really would have felt it deserved more comin from Bethesda.

What was wrong with the story?

ShumaGorath wrote:

johnscott10 wrote:

battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Fallout New Vegas.
I haven't played it, and I never will, after the designers basically said it was just a glorified expansion pack. Everything looks the same as in FO3, and it is running on the same game engine.

Thanks for reminding me of Fallout 3.

Was such a crap, boring and frankly unchallenging game imo. The story sucked and was a bit predictable. Shame really would have felt it deserved more comin from Bethesda.

What was wrong with the story?

When i say sucked i mean that in the way that i wasnt as drawn into it like other games. Take Black Ops, MW2 and Oblivion for example, the story pulled me right in and it was one of those games i just didnt want to put down until i knew the story. Fallout 3 didnt have that same effect, a few hours into the game and it was turned off. took me a while to actually pick it up and play it. FF13 was different story wise even though i put it down for ages, left due to not being able to defeat a boss but the story still drew me in.

When i say sucked i mean that in the way that i wasnt as drawn into it like other games. Take Black Ops, MW2 and Oblivion for example, the story pulled me right in and it was one of those games i just didnt want to put down until i knew the story.

Take Black Ops, MW2 and Oblivion for example

MW2

I understand now.

battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Fallout New Vegas.
I haven't played it, and I never will,

Awesome reason to stop reading your post here. Regardless of whether I agree or not.