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whatwhat wrote:
That doesn't make any sense. Why does them changing the point scale explain why the game got reviewed better on the ps3 but got given a lower score than the xbox version?

Grading scales that are less detailed not only obscure negative qualities, but positive ones as well.

For example, a school that grants only grade of A, B, C, D, and F will not differentiate between someone with a very high B, and someone with a very low B; whereas a school that uses + and - modifiers will be able to differentiate between the two.


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Amaya wrote:
/sigh

They didn't make their own endings.

1) There is an ending in the game. It is rushed.
2) The fan made content is them adding CUT CONTENT (ie stuff made by Obdsidian, not fans) to the game.
3) The journey is more important than the ending. I'd rather explore a meaningful world than do a vision quest to stop the ultimate evil for the 500th time.

KoToR 2 had a massive amount of potential. The story was complex, and nuanced, but ultimately undone by that fact as it very likely made it difficult for a proper ending to be implemented prior to given deadlines.

If nothing else, Kreia was a great character.

dogma wrote:

whatwhat wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

Goliath wrote:Slightly OT, but the thing that I've found funny about the release on PS3, is that all of the reviews given by IGN have said that it is a much better game on PS3, but it go 9.5, as opposed to 9.6 for the Xbox version

That's because IGN has changed from a 100 point scale to a 20 point scale.

That doesn't make any sense. Why does them changing the point scale explain why the game got reviewed better on the ps3 but got given a lower score than the xbox version?

Grading scales that are less detailed not only obscure negative qualities, but positive ones as well.

For example, a school that grants only grade of A, B, C, D, and F will not differentiate between someone with a very high B, and someone with a very low B; whereas a school that uses + and - modifiers will be able to differentiate between the two.

What? One game got 9.6 and the other got 9.5. The first got reviewed as worse than the later. Your comments do nothing to explain why a recent change in points scale says anything.

I'd be more inclined to think that the guys who reviewed the game at IGN weren't the people who scored it.

No, it does make sense, it probably means that were IGN still on the 100 point scale that ME2 would have gotten 9.7

Say for example you saw two scores for a game, one was 93%, and one was 4.5 stars out of five, if you multiply the star score up it only gives 90%, but it could have been giving exactly the same score, it just has less options with which to score.

Goliath wrote:No, it does make sense, it probably means that were IGN still on the 100 point scale that ME2 would have gotten 9.7

Say for example you saw two scores for a game, one was 93%, and one was 4.5 stars out of five, if you multiply the star score up it only gives 90%, but it could have been giving exactly the same score, it just has less options with which to score.

Oh so you converted the scores to a 10 point scale or something? What were the actual scores? I assumed by the way you had it as 9.5 and 9.6 they were scored on the same scale and KamikazeCanuck was talking about a previous system.

edit: Ah I see. I didn't know the two games were released long after the other on the separate consoles. Was on a completely different page. Sorry.

Comment not needed.

Finished it this last night. Without doubt now my fave series on the 360, and in general just an awesome RPG.

Not sure I'll be able to look at another seriously ever again, if my character isn't talking and interacting with the other characters.

Brilliant stuff, downloaded all extras as well, and left a save there on the 360 for ME3 and also to mess about with the character on the lasy few assignments I haven't done.




Going to take a week off and look at sorting my doubles army out, but I expect to be making a new ME1 character to do the renegade side of things soon.

I'm about 18 hours in and loving it. Zaeed in particular is a critical addition to the cast. Both Overlord and Lair of the Shadow Broker were very fun. Lair of the Shadow Broker was especially satisfying. The visual design was epic -- one wonders why other locations were so uninspired? (I'm thinking of the Quarian Flotilla and Jack's "school" on Praggia.) Also, it brought a sorely needed layer of emotional depth to Liara and ultimately to Shepherd. The game feels so much more finished with the DLC. I will write up something more detailed when I finish this playthrough.

@MDS: DEFINITELY a good buy, mate! Many thanks to you and Amaya for your enthusiasm.

Manchu wrote:I'm about 18 hours in and loving it. Zaeed in particular is a critical addition to the cast. Both Overlord and Lair of the Shadow Broker were very fun. Lair of the Shadow Broker was especially satisfying. The visual design was epic -- one wonders why other locations were so uninspired? (I'm thinking of the Quarian Flotilla and Jack's "school" on Praggia.) Also, it brought a sorely needed layer of emotional depth to Liara and ultimately to Shepherd. The game feels so much more finished with the DLC. I will write up something more detailed when I finish this playthrough.

@MDS: DEFINITELY a good buy, mate! Many thanks to you and Amaya for your enthusiasm.

I keep telling people the second one is better. That damn citadel stage from the first Mass Effect ruined it for a lot of people. I liked that part myself but a lot of people will not give the sequel a chance.

I have the opposite problem . . . Fable 2 . . . Fable 3. I know I will break down and buy DA:O 2, if only to hold me over until Skyrim.

Manchu wrote:I'm about 18 hours in and loving it. Zaeed in particular is a critical addition to the cast. Both Overlord and Lair of the Shadow Broker were very fun. Lair of the Shadow Broker was especially satisfying. The visual design was epic -- one wonders why other locations were so uninspired? (I'm thinking of the Quarian Flotilla and Jack's "school" on Praggia.) Also, it brought a sorely needed layer of emotional depth to Liara and ultimately to Shepherd. The game feels so much more finished with the DLC. I will write up something more detailed when I finish this playthrough.

@MDS: DEFINITELY a good buy, mate! Many thanks to you and Amaya for your enthusiasm.

Glad you got back into it, its certainly now one of my all time faves.

The urge to play it all over again is crazy, will try and hold off a bit, but it will happen. Different romance options, ren/pargon etc, lots of fun.

Goliath wrote:No, it does make sense, it probably means that were IGN still on the 100 point scale that ME2 would have gotten 9.7

Say for example you saw two scores for a game, one was 93%, and one was 4.5 stars out of five, if you multiply the star score up it only gives 90%, but it could have been giving exactly the same score, it just has less options with which to score.

Yes, exactly. ME2 on PS would probably gotten a 9.7 on the old scale but they don't have .7s anymore just .5s. Look I'm an xbox guy with 23,131 Acheivement points but obviously the PS3 version is going to be better. It's using the ME3 engine and has all the DLC included. You can't beat that. It just sucks that xboxers had to bascially pay for EA to make this for playstation. What we do have is the fact we already played the crap outta this a year ago and most importantly of all ME1. Mass Effect is a trilogy the likes of which has never been seen: one were you can use the same character over 3 games and every decision has an effect! I'm excited to take my ME1 charater all the way to the end!


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Manchu wrote:I'm about 18 hours in and loving it. Zaeed in particular is a critical addition to the cast. Both Overlord and Lair of the Shadow Broker were very fun. Lair of the Shadow Broker was especially satisfying. The visual design was epic -- one wonders why other locations were so uninspired? (I'm thinking of the Quarian Flotilla and Jack's "school" on Praggia.) Also, it brought a sorely needed layer of emotional depth to Liara and ultimately to Shepherd. The game feels so much more finished with the DLC. I will write up something more detailed when I finish this playthrough.

@MDS: DEFINITELY a good buy, mate! Many thanks to you and Amaya for your enthusiasm.

Glad we got you back on the Mass Effect band wagon. I agree completely about Liar of the shadow broker. The Idea of a planet were the light side boils and the dark side freezes and in between there's a perpetual lighting storm was so cool and visually spectacular.
See what your missing by not having Xbox hooked up to internet? Zaheed and Firewalker were free downloads!

Manchu wrote:I'm about 18 hours in and loving it. Zaeed in particular is a critical addition to the cast. Both Overlord and Lair of the Shadow Broker were very fun. Lair of the Shadow Broker was especially satisfying. The visual design was epic -- one wonders why other locations were so uninspired? (I'm thinking of the Quarian Flotilla and Jack's "school" on Praggia.) Also, it brought a sorely needed layer of emotional depth to Liara and ultimately to Shepherd. The game feels so much more finished with the DLC. I will write up something more detailed when I finish this playthrough.

@MDS: DEFINITELY a good buy, mate! Many thanks to you and Amaya for your enthusiasm.

I'm glad you gave it a chance. Have fun in the game. The Mass Effect wikia is a very helpful resource.

especially if you want to keep everyone alive.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:especially if you want to keep everyone alive.

Spoiler:

Only do Legion's Loyalty Mission after the "Joker mission"!

Does anyone know how Scale Itch got on the ship?

Amaya wrote:

Spoiler:

First time through Kelly slurpee made me rage

Aye me too, actually stunned me. So yeah, even though I enjoyed the run of achievements, saving all squad, compleating game etc, I felt the need to run the last four hours again and save all the crew.

Amaya wrote:
Does anyone know how Scale Itch got on the ship?

I'd guess Kelly.

whatwhat wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

Goliath wrote:Slightly OT, but the thing that I've found funny about the release on PS3, is that all of the reviews given by IGN have said that it is a much better game on PS3, but it go 9.5, as opposed to 9.6 for the Xbox version

That's because IGN has changed from a 100 point scale to a 20 point scale.

That doesn't make any sense. Why does them changing the point scale explain why the game got reviewed better on the ps3 but got given a lower score than the xbox version?

There is no scale between 95 and 100, they rarely give out 100's and rounding it's closer down, so given their current scaling the only option was 95. Thus it's lower. The real reason it's not a 100 though is simply because it's old now, it's not longer a new release. It's a weird scale, but platform revisions, even when better, rarely score higher if they're more then a year out.

:edit: there was a page after this one that I didn't realize existed, it's already been answered. My bad.

ShumaGorath wrote::edit: there was a page after this one that I didn't realize existed, it's already been answered. My bad.

Probably going to happen quite a lot when your browsing the forums differntly to everyone else.

whatwhat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote::edit: there was a page after this one that I didn't realize existed, it's already been answered. My bad.

Probably going to happen quite a lot when your browsing the forums differntly to everyone else.

Are you implying I'm left handed?

That's right. Google Analytics told me so.

IGN's love for ME2 is apparently greater than my own. It got the following awards in the PC category:

Best Story
Most Innovative Gameplay (Not sure if I agree with this)
Best Character - The Illusive Man (Eh, again, not sure about that)
Best Visuals (obvious choice)
Best Soundtrack
Best Sci-Fi Game

Game of the Year for PC went to Starcraft 2, which I really don't understand. From what I've heard SC2 is just Starcraft with better graphics. I think a lot of other games, including ME2, would have been more deserving of GoTY for PC. Reader's Choice was Mass Effect 2 for PC.

For the XBox it got:

Best Story
Best Character - Thane (What the heck, are they on crack?) Reader's Choice was Mordin Solus. I don't hate Thane like a lot of people do, but TIM, Miranda, Garrus, Mordin, and Talia were all better IMO.
Best Sci-Fi Game
Best Blockbust Game
Game of the Year for XBox 360

Amaya wrote:Best Character - The Illusive Man (Eh, again, not sure about that)

Er, maybe best voiceacting.

Got to be Mordin, he has so many good lines, in the team while on missions, and while chatting to him in the Science lab.

However nice to see so many awards.


Talking about love for the series Amaya, have you done one of those draw your Shepard Memes by chance?

I Just noted a Amaya Shepard Meme on Deviant, although that name might be a really popular character somewhere. I have no idea if I'm honest.

Curiousity killed tha cat, an all that?

No, I've never used deviantart.

Yeah, Mordin was pretty cool. I think he might be my favorite crew member. Besides being funny his guilt over the genophage and how he delt with it was interesting. Also, he's a good singer
Who's everyone's favorite?

Tali after some thought, I started a poll for those interested.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/344247.page