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Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:6th form counts, in my opinion. At least, the mental ages do.

No experience of 6th form, I just went to college.

Heh, fair enough. How long do you Yanks (addressed to the Americans, I know you're a Brit, Corpses) stay in compulsory education for, incidentally?

Well, you're only REQUIRED to stay in high school until you're 16, but only a crazy idiot would get out without a high school diploma. The school system goes: Kindergarten (Not sure if required), then 1st-6th grade is elementary school, 7th-8th grade (sometimes including 6th and 9th) is middle school, aka combining the worst parts of elementary and high school, then 9th-12th grade is high school. When you graduate from high school, you're 17 or 18, depending on your birthday.

biccat wrote:
It was a quote that was (probably falsely) attributed to Socrates.

Ah, yeah, doesn't sound much like anything else that Plato attributed to him. There's no question mark.

micahaphone wrote:Well, you're only REQUIRED to stay in high school until you're 16, but only a crazy idiot would get out without a high school diploma. The school system goes: Kindergarten (Not sure if required), then 1st-6th grade is elementary school, 7th-8th grade (sometimes including 6th and 9th) is middle school, aka combining the worst parts of elementary and high school, then 9th-12th grade is high school. When you graduate from high school, you're 17 or 18, depending on your birthday.

Ah, I see. And I presume High School diplomas are the key to university, as A-Levels/equivalent qualifications are here, judging by the importance you put on 'em?

Now, as a teen, I take pride in my nody and in fitness. However; I'm really lucky in that I have enough money for decent athletic programs and healthy food. Many teens today don't have those; and thus a large portion of obese teens is because of these reasons.

micahaphone wrote:Well, you're only REQUIRED to stay in high school until you're 16, but only a crazy idiot would get out without a high school diploma. The school system goes: Kindergarten (Not sure if required), then 1st-6th grade is elementary school, 7th-8th grade (sometimes including 6th and 9th) is middle school, aka combining the worst parts of elementary and high school, then 9th-12th grade is high school. When you graduate from high school, you're 17 or 18, depending on your birthday.

Pretty much the same breakdown we have here in NZ.
Kindergarten isn't compulsory, it's just pre-school, also called daycare and they really only exist to take care of young children whose parents both work.
Primary school is your elementary school and once you turn 5 you have to receive some sort of recognized education even it's homeschooling.
Middle school is close to what is called Intermediate, what used to be forms 1 and 2 (11-12 year olds). Sometimes these two years are included at primary school and sometimes they're included at a college, normally they have their own schools though.
Secondary school is either called a College or a High School. We don't use the term college to refer to university.

The system used to be based on the British one but is a bit more international now I believe.


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Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:Now, as a teen, I take pride in my nody and in fitness. However; I'm really lucky in that I have enough money for decent athletic programs and healthy food. Many teens today don't have those; and thus a large portion of obese teens is because of these reasons.

What's a nody?

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:

micahaphone wrote:Well, you're only REQUIRED to stay in high school until you're 16, but only a crazy idiot would get out without a high school diploma. The school system goes: Kindergarten (Not sure if required), then 1st-6th grade is elementary school, 7th-8th grade (sometimes including 6th and 9th) is middle school, aka combining the worst parts of elementary and high school, then 9th-12th grade is high school. When you graduate from high school, you're 17 or 18, depending on your birthday.

Ah, I see. And I presume High School diplomas are the key to university, as A-Levels/equivalent qualifications are here, judging by the importance you put on 'em?

Not just that. Over here, there is much competition to get into college, as you cannot get a decent job without a degree. So you need to have good grades on your transcript, and participation in various clubs or activities if you want a shot at being accepted into a good school. Also, most places will not hire you if you don't have a high school diploma, or maybe a GED.
A GED is a test that you can take to get out of high school early but still look as if you've put some thought towards your future.

micahaphone wrote:

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:

micahaphone wrote:Well, you're only REQUIRED to stay in high school until you're 16, but only a crazy idiot would get out without a high school diploma. The school system goes: Kindergarten (Not sure if required), then 1st-6th grade is elementary school, 7th-8th grade (sometimes including 6th and 9th) is middle school, aka combining the worst parts of elementary and high school, then 9th-12th grade is high school. When you graduate from high school, you're 17 or 18, depending on your birthday.

Ah, I see. And I presume High School diplomas are the key to university, as A-Levels/equivalent qualifications are here, judging by the importance you put on 'em?

Not just that. Over here, there is much competition to get into college, as you cannot get a decent job without a degree. So you need to have good grades on your transcript, and participation in various clubs or activities if you want a shot at being accepted into a good school. Also, most places will not hire you if you don't have a high school diploma, or maybe a GED.
A GED is a test that you can take to get out of high school early but still look as if you've put some thought towards your future.

Additionally, and this is no problem for some elements of American youths, is that if you do not have a H.S. Diploma, you may be automatically disqualified from voluntary military service. This is partially dependent on the recruiting situation. During the peak of Iraq/Afghanistan, they were letting just about anyone who had all their limbs in somewhat working order. Not having a diploma also hurts what jobs people can do within the military, as some do actually require some brain power.

micahaphone wrote:
A GED is a test that you can take to get out of high school early but still look as if you've put some thought towards your future.

Most GEDs that I know got them at 16, and then went to JuCo in order to finish early.

dogma wrote:

micahaphone wrote:
A GED is a test that you can take to get out of high school early but still look as if you've put some thought towards your future.

Most GEDs that I know got them at 16, and then went to JuCo in order to finish early.

You've probably got a biased sample size

Most GEDs are for people who are over 18 and dropped out of high school.

Kids today are a bunch of tools. They all sag their pants, and don't even realize where it came from. They do it because its the "cool thing" to do, it is unbelievable.

They listen to gak music, because its popular, like Lil Wayne, Drake, Gucci Mane. Honestly, I am glad I wasn't born 10 years ago, I would murder these kids for the disrespect they show for the legends of Hip-Hop.

Karon wrote:Kids today are a bunch of tools. They all sag their pants, and don't even realize where it came from. They do it because its the "cool thing" to do, it is unbelievable.

They listen to gak music, because its popular, like Lil Wayne, Drake, Gucci Mane. Honestly, I am glad I wasn't born 10 years ago, I would murder these kids for the disrespect they show for the legends of Hip-Hop.

Its more a disrespect as a whole. I was raised in such a manner that anyone older than me, or in an authority position is addressed as Sir, or Ma'am. If you did not use those 2 terms, you would use their proper title, Coach, Mister, Missus, Professor, Sergeant, etc. Proper answers to questions from them are "Yes sir" or "No sir" (obviously ma'am if it applies), not "yeah" or "nah"

Karon wrote:Kids today are a bunch of tools. They all sag their pants, and don't even realize where it came from. They do it because its the "cool thing" to do, it is unbelievable.

They listen to gak music, because its popular, like Lil Wayne, Drake, Gucci Mane. Honestly, I am glad I wasn't born 10 years ago, I would murder these kids for the disrespect they show for the legends of Hip-Hop.

I know!! And all people aged older than 18 directly contributed to the global financial crisis, because they're of an age that they could be a banker!!

And you do understand the concept of "popular" music, right?
There is actually a chance that it can be popular, and good.

We don't "sag our pants". A certain sub-group of teens may sag their pants, just the same as there are groups of 20-25 year olds that get stoned every weekend because it's supposedly cool.

PEOPLE CANNOT BE SHOEHORNED INTO GROUPS. HAVE YOU HEARD OF SOMETHING CALLED "PERSONALITY"?

Also, don't make such sweeping generalisations about an age group, it makes adults today come across as a bunch of tools.

I know I'm right, though. I've visited highschool classrooms as part of my college, oh two years ago. I had to go there for weeks and observe.

And, keep in mind I am talking about the United States. I wouldn't expect it to be the same in the U.K.

I believe it. Mainly because I'm part of it.

Never smoked, never drunk, never had unprotected sex, never get into a car without wearing a seatbelt, never been overweight, never gotten into a fight, don't cyber bully, don't IRL bully, never broken a girls heart without repairing it, never killed anyone, never killed an animal, never been racist, never failed a class that wasn't an elective, never vandilized anything other than the back of textbooks on middle school

Most people my age are basically the same ;3

Goliath wrote:

Karon wrote:Kids today are a bunch of tools. They all sag their pants, and don't even realize where it came from. They do it because its the "cool thing" to do, it is unbelievable.

They listen to gak music, because its popular, like Lil Wayne, Drake, Gucci Mane. Honestly, I am glad I wasn't born 10 years ago, I would murder these kids for the disrespect they show for the legends of Hip-Hop.

I know!! And all people aged older than 18 directly contributed to the global financial crisis, because they're of an age that they could be a banker!!

And you do understand the concept of "popular" music, right?
There is actually a chance that it can be popular, and good.

We don't "sag our pants". A certain sub-group of teens may sag their pants, just the same as there are groups of 20-25 year olds that get stoned every weekend because it's supposedly cool.

PEOPLE CANNOT BE SHOEHORNED INTO GROUPS. HAVE YOU HEARD OF SOMETHING CALLED "PERSONALITY"?

Also, don't make such sweeping generalisations about an age group, it makes adults today come across as a bunch of tools.

I thought skinny jeans was the "in" thing theses days.

Cheesecat wrote:I thought skinny jeans was the "in" thing theses days.

Those have been "in" for quite a while.

Only they used to be called "Girl's jeans".

Karon wrote:Kids today are a bunch of tools. They all sag their pants, and don't even realize where it came from. They do it because its the "cool thing" to do, it is unbelievable.

They listen to gak music, because its popular, like Lil Wayne, Drake, Gucci Mane. Honestly, I am glad I wasn't born 10 years ago, I would murder these kids for the disrespect they show for the legends of Hip-Hop.

They do. You're quite right. Individuality is gone, simply because it isn't cool. I'm just about the only person I can think of that isn't a complete tool or poser.

I wear whatever I like, because I feel cool wearing it. I don't care what other people think. But no. Being a hipster and listening to MGMT is cool, so maybe I should wear loafers, corduroys and flanel shirts, hurr.

That Might just be a thing at my school

Karon wrote:Kids today are a bunch of tools. They all sag their pants, and don't even realize where it came from. They do it because its the "cool thing" to do, it is unbelievable.

That was also true 12 years ago when I was 16. No new generation is uniquely 'bad'. Kids throughout the ages have irritated older generations. You can read 200 year old news reports of roaming teenage gangs in London that sound remarkably similar to modern-day papers reporting similar stories.

biccat wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:I thought skinny jeans was the "in" thing theses days.

Those have been "in" for quite a while.

Only they used to be called "Girl's jeans".

I only own skinny jeans, actually. I find them more comfortable than regular blue jeans. All that empty space floting around makes me uncomfortable :3

Samus_aran115 wrote:

biccat wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:I thought skinny jeans was the "in" thing theses days.

Those have been "in" for quite a while.

Only they used to be called "Girl's jeans".

I only own skinny jeans, actually. I find them more comfortable than regular blue jeans. All that empty space floting around makes me uncomfortable :3

I have a pair of skinny's myself too, but I prefer shorts over pants in general.

Must be your climate then Shorts are appropriate about thirty days of the year here xD

Samus_aran115 wrote:Must be your climate then Shorts are appropriate about thirty days of the year here xD

I wear shorts and sandals from spring to fall. The only thing I dislike about shorts is they often have worse pockets than jeans.

This thread is now about pants

These are the best images I could find that show different style of pants.

Warning: contains language that might offend some viewers

Samus_aran115 wrote:I believe it. Mainly because I'm part of it.

Never smoked, never drunk, never had unprotected sex, never get into a car without wearing a seatbelt, never been overweight, never gotten into a fight, don't cyber bully, don't IRL bully, never broken a girls heart without repairing it, never killed anyone, never killed an animal, never been racist, never failed a class that wasn't an elective, never vandilized anything other than the back of textbooks on middle school

Most people my age are basically the same ;3

I think I have done all of those other than killed someone and I wear skinny jeans.

Does this make me a bad person ? :(

Karon wrote:I know I'm right, though. I've visited highschool classrooms as part of my college, oh two years ago. I had to go there for weeks and observe.

And, keep in mind I am talking about the United States. I wouldn't expect it to be the same in the U.K.

I seriously doubt you went to enough classes in enough schools to get a representative sample, but whatever. As to the whole "disrespect" issue, times have moved on from when lads wore short trousers 'til the age of 16. I think applying old-fashioned values to new situations, however easy it might be, is probably a futile endeavor.

I don't know about teens in the US.

But in Ireland,they are all still a bunch of damn "punks" (I mean a much worse word)

Seriously,everywhere,it's just damn "punks".

corpsesarefun wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:I believe it. Mainly because I'm part of it.

Never smoked, never drunk, never had unprotected sex, never get into a car without wearing a seatbelt, never been overweight, never gotten into a fight, don't cyber bully, don't IRL bully, never broken a girls heart without repairing it, never killed anyone, never killed an animal, never been racist, never failed a class that wasn't an elective, never vandilized anything other than the back of textbooks on middle school

Most people my age are basically the same ;3

I think I have done all of those other than killed someone and I wear skinny jeans.

Does this make me a bad person ? :(

No, it makes you not as good as me

KIDDING


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Melkhiordarkblade wrote:I don't know about teens in the US.

But in Ireland,they are all still a bunch of damn "punks" (I mean a much worse word)

Seriously,everywhere,it's just damn "punks".

Punk kids? That'd be better than the idiots we have over here who listen to the ramones and seem to think that's the extent of 'punk'

Unless you mean.. They're just idiots?