Further Necron hints for August.ish

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**Ctan_Overlord**

That is very interesting, I like the sound of the spyder being bigger but also more elegant, I hope this points to a release soon.

Did you manage to see anything else there or is that it?

**Sasori**

Kroothawk wrote:New information by Captain Ventris over at Warseer:

Sisters will be getting a standard book, but it will certainly be coming well after the Necron book. Talked to my source this last weekend. The WD codex for sisters is simply a holdover till 6th ed. for now. Also its apparently a "filler" codex because the necron book and models were delayed in
Production and wouldn't get released till november (this was apparently decided 6 months ago). The WD sisters codex was rushed btw and wasn't thoroughly playtested... Two waves of Necrons are supposed to be released the weekends of Nov. 12 and Dec. 3rd. What models will be in what release is still being discussed, obviously the codex is in the first wave, but he also mentioned that warriors were getting re-cut with the scarabs removed and options added in their place. Scarab swarms are apparently going to a multi-part finecast kit that is more dynamicly posed than just scarabs hovering in place (I'd already done something similar where my scarabs are actuallt bursting from the ground)

Also on an off-topic note, some minor waves are supposed to be released for various armies with 6th ed. One of note that he mentioned was a new eldar jetbike kit with parts to make either 3 guardian jetbikes or 3 Shining Spears.

Take with whatever salt you feel is necessary.

I Don't want to get my hopes up again, but I sure hope so....

**cyberscape7**

SK5556838528 wrote:Hello,

I've just seen a plastic Necron Spyder sprue.

Accidentally caught a glimpse, don't want to say where because I'm still there, but it should be obvious.

Quick details:

Definitely larger; probably closer to a rhino size (in terms of volume)

More elegant design (limbs), but clearly a Spyder. I think I saw some scarabs, not sure.

I saw claw parts and what was either a gun or something that looks a lot like one. Could have been an under-spine or something.

90% sure that's what I saw.

(Yeah, ok, first poster, salt, whatever)

Woah, this is unbelievable! Its a new rumour!!!

Seriously tho, if this is true, I'm a happy little necron

But, as you said, I'm gonna take this with a healthy dose of salt...

**Kurgash**

I had always wanted my Spyders to be the size of Rhinos as clearly a monstrous creature isn't really something where a space marine is as tall as it.

**FalkorsRaiders**

Well, if the spyder is the same size as a rhino, it means all the spyders i own won't be usable anymore. well, I guess if they aren't worth it, such as other necron vehicles and such being better to use than the spyder, i won't be as mad.

Just a thought about necrons being used in 6th edition:T
With current rumors, vehicles and units can move X inches (0, 6, 12, and 18). Now if the rumored Necron transport vehicles aren't actually transports, but portals like the monolith, Necrons would be quite formidable. At the beginning of your turn, a Necron warrior squad could be teleported to a portal 18 inches away if neither moved, and then maybe walk 6 inches if the rules allow moving at x1 speed since the warriors had not moved other than the portal moving them. This could mean the warriors would be moved 24 inches in the turn, and thats not allowing them to move at x2 speed like the rumors talk about. This little trick could be useful for shooting away while avoiding close combat. I doubt this will be true, but I can wish for it, right?

**Ascalam**

There's no rule invalidating old models, as long as there is a codex entry for the model still.

A lot of tournament folks run the tonkatoy sized rhinos to (ab)use the cover as much as possible, for example.

I'm keeping my 6, but i'll buy 3 new ones

**FalkorsRaiders**

Ascalam wrote:There's no rule invalidating old models, as long as there is a codex entry for the model still.

A lot of tournament folks run the tonkatoy sized rhinos to (ab)use the cover as much as possible, for example.

I'm keeping my 6, but i'll buy 3 new ones

Good. I bet the new spyder will be worth it in the end, but I'd like to be able to use the models I currently own.

**Anpu-adom**

I'm curious if GW is doing any digital scanning and production. Thought goes like this:
Sculpt your model 50% bigger so you get more detail.
Do a 3d scan of the model, and reduce the size in the computer.
Use 3d printing or a 6-axis CNC machine to produce your 'high def' model your final size, which is your basis for the molds.

**MightyGodzilla**

Anpu-adom wrote:I'm curious if GW is doing any digital scanning and production. Thought goes like this:
Sculpt your model 50% bigger so you get more detail.
Do a 3d scan of the model, and reduce the size in the computer.
Use 3d printing or a 6-axis CNC machine to produce your 'high def' model your final size, which is your basis for the molds.

Yes I believe that's what they do for a lot of the models in the plastic range. If I'm not mistaken that's what GW refers to as a "3 Up". I know I've seen pictures of sculptors working with very large models in some of the magazine spreads.

-MightyG

PPS -To whomever mentioned that new Eldar Bike kit with the option of 3 Shining Spears or 3 Guardian jetbikes....I've been waiting for that for soooo long. A few years back I saw a Jes Goodwin sculpt of a prototype Guardian jetbike - Ricerocket Style. Man I've been waiting for years for that thing to actually come out. I'd totally go Windrider after that. I hates me the "Cruiser" bikes with the oldschool riders.

**dancingcricket**

I'm alright with the idea of scarabs coming somewhere besides on the warrior sprue, particularly if they're going to get significantly boosted, and a lot more desireable. But I don't really like the idea of them becoming finecast. Just too costly, particularly if they're going to be as useful as rumored. Luckily I already have 30 of the current ones...

**Happygrunt**

Actually, Necrons and Sisters in the same month would be cool and make some sense, as they could easily tie it in with Sanctuary 101.

**MadCowCrazy**

Happygrunt wrote:Actually, Necrons and Sisters in the same month would be cool and make some sense , as they could easily tie it in with Sanctuary 101.

Sorry to burst your bubble but it's GW we are talking about...

It would have been great to get a Sisters vs Necron starter box for 6E but it will be another SM box.

**Anpu-adom**

MadCowCrazy wrote:
Happygrunt wrote:Actually, Necrons and Sisters in the same month would be cool and make some sense , as they could easily tie it in with Sanctuary 101.

Sorry to burst your bubble but it's GW we are talking about...

It would have been great to get a Sisters vs Necron starter box for 6E but it will be another SM box.

I think that he's hoping for a Space Hulk type of game release in September. Besides, the rumors are that it won't be Ultramarines in the 6e starter fluff (or Xenos either for that matter).

MightyGodzilla wrote:
Anpu-adom wrote:I'm curious if GW is doing any digital scanning and production. Thought goes like this:
Sculpt your model 50% bigger so you get more detail.
Do a 3d scan of the model, and reduce the size in the computer.
Use 3d printing or a 6-axis CNC machine to produce your 'high def' model your final size, which is your basis for the molds.

Yes I believe that's what they do for a lot of the models in the plastic range. If I'm not mistaken that's what GW refers to as a "3 Up". I know I've seen pictures of sculptors working with very large models in some of the magazine spreads.

-MightyG

I thought that might be how things work! Sadly, no tank sized Tomb Spyders. Shucks.

**MadCowCrazy**

Anpu-adom wrote:
I think that he's hoping for a Space Hulk type of game release in September. Besides, the rumors are that it won't be Ultramarines in the 6e starter fluff (or Xenos either for that matter).

The 6E starter set will be Black Templars and the new Chaos Legions codex. Rumours say you might be able to buy them separately, so that it's basically a battleforce with the rulebook in it as well. This is just a rumour but the starter armies are pretty much set in stone. Apply salt as needed...

**BrassScorpion**

40K fans, Necrons are now becoming somewhat difficult to get except off the GW website and they are not apparently being restocked even in GW's own retail stores now. That's always a good indication of an imminent re-release.

**Ascalam**

Works for me

ENOUGH waiting already. 65 million years is long enough

**BrassScorpion**

Watch Tomb Of The Cybermen to tide you over till the Necrons reappear.

**Ascalam**

I can't.

Some spod with a bag of gold dust and an umbrella destroyed my last tape

**FalkorsRaiders**

New from Blood of Kittens-

Blood of Kittens wrote:
So here we are. The final Random Unit Review. Where shall I go after this? What will make people quit whining? Will I ever see the irony in my complaining about complainers? Will the Joker be able to thwart Batman’s evil plan? What? That’s different here? feth.
Oh, before I go to deep into Necron milling… I want to chat about the 6th Edition and Hrud rumors. Now, I’m not one to call people bald face liars (except when I do that exact thing all the time). But those rumors would represent a significant departure from my own timeline. I’m not saying that the people spreading those rumors should look into asbestos pants, I’m just saying that unless your world shifts a lot from my own… they are just making gak up. Wildly inaccurate wishlisting… that’s what it would be on the REAL Earth. Anything that is right would be pure luck. But hey, I’m not from YOUR future. So things could be correct. I just wouldn’t know.
Ok, so Necron Heavy Support. That’s what you are here to learn about. Rolling the d10 and divide by 2. Ooh, a 9… so that’s…4.5. Round down right? That’s what we do. So 4! The French Breakfast Bread! This will be a quick one!
Like a Rhino on all sides, this vehicles is ready for even the most trying of circumstances. Made of the same material as the big pyramid, this bird can still move as fast as a razorwing! It’s two weapons make for a quick delivery of damage as it swoops down on the fleshy fleshy prey. While the main gun may be limited to pistol ranges, it more than makes it up for in oomph, rocking it at maximum strength and allowing none of those pesky armor saves (a big help against enemy vehicles too!).
But wait… there is more! Act now and you’ll also be able to fire all your weapons while cruising around the battlefield. All your weapons? Yes! Even the troop crushing destruct-o-magics! Once you’re taking fire from bolters, these would make even Edison blush, as they give autocannons are run for their money, even if they can’t even break an Orks leather. With a rate of fire comparable to the assault cannon, these weapons can hit multiple units, ruining all those multiple small units days.
So act now, and you too can make a parking lot look like a junkyard!
So there you have it! Some random Necron Units. I hope you have enjoyed this bit of trans-dimensional speculation (I know some of me has). As the PDS starts to subside from anything I might have changed, I’ll come back with a bit more.

Looks like this may be the Necrons' equivalent to a flyer?
It looks like the vehicle is 11-11-10, its a fast skimmer, has a 12" gun with STR 10 AP 1, and a gun that is like the gauss flux arc with STR 7 AP -. It has living metal, which is suppose to be upgraded towards the better, and with the rumor of the field that raises the armor by 2 until the first glance/penetrate, that will make it 13-13-12. Hows the new vehicle sound?

**samrtk**

FalkorsRaiders wrote:New from Blood of Kittens-

Blood of Kittens wrote:
So here we are. The final Random Unit Review. Where shall I go after this? What will make people quit whining? Will I ever see the irony in my complaining about complainers? Will the Joker be able to thwart Batman’s evil plan? What? That’s different here? feth.
Oh, before I go to deep into Necron milling… I want to chat about the 6th Edition and Hrud rumors. Now, I’m not one to call people bald face liars (except when I do that exact thing all the time). But those rumors would represent a significant departure from my own timeline. I’m not saying that the people spreading those rumors should look into asbestos pants, I’m just saying that unless your world shifts a lot from my own… they are just making gak up. Wildly inaccurate wishlisting… that’s what it would be on the REAL Earth. Anything that is right would be pure luck. But hey, I’m not from YOUR future. So things could be correct. I just wouldn’t know.
Ok, so Necron Heavy Support. That’s what you are here to learn about. Rolling the d10 and divide by 2. Ooh, a 9… so that’s…4.5. Round down right? That’s what we do. So 4! The French Breakfast Bread! This will be a quick one!
Like a Rhino on all sides, this vehicles is ready for even the most trying of circumstances. Made of the same material as the big pyramid, this bird can still move as fast as a razorwing! It’s two weapons make for a quick delivery of damage as it swoops down on the fleshy fleshy prey. While the main gun may be limited to pistol ranges, it more than makes it up for in oomph, rocking it at maximum strength and allowing none of those pesky armor saves (a big help against enemy vehicles too!).
But wait… there is more! Act now and you’ll also be able to fire all your weapons while cruising around the battlefield. All your weapons? Yes! Even the troop crushing destruct-o-magics! Once you’re taking fire from bolters, these would make even Edison blush, as they give autocannons are run for their money, even if they can’t even break an Orks leather. With a rate of fire comparable to the assault cannon, these weapons can hit multiple units, ruining all those multiple small units days.
So act now, and you too can make a parking lot look like a junkyard!
So there you have it! Some random Necron Units. I hope you have enjoyed this bit of trans-dimensional speculation (I know some of me has). As the PDS starts to subside from anything I might have changed, I’ll come back with a bit more.

Looks like this may be the Necrons' equivalent to a flyer?
It looks like the vehicle is 11-11-10, its a fast skimmer, has a 12" gun with STR 10 AP 1, and a gun that is like the gauss flux arc with STR 7 AP -. It has living metal, which is suppose to be upgraded towards the better, and with the rumor of the field that raises the armor by 2 until the first glance/penetrate, that will make it 13-13-12. Hows the new vehicle sound?

Seems like a bad joke to me.

**BrassScorpion**

Isn't everything about BoK, including the name of the site, a bad joke?

**Brother SRM**

BrassScorpion wrote:Isn't everything about BoK, including the name of the site, a bad joke?

So far they were pretty solid on the GK rumors, but not 100%. That's all they've talked about that's come true yet though, as most of their rumors are a bit further out in the future.

**happygolucky**

Kurgash wrote:
EYEofTERROR wrote:I doubt that Necrons will be released anytime this year. Seems like it would steal the thunder from DE. If the release of a new Necron dex will be anything comparable to DE, then I would imagine they would release it in November with a splash release in February. Just like the Dark Eldar. Then they could ride the hype of an all new and spectacular army all year. This is the year of DE, where everyone wanted or bought into Dark Eldar and new releases came out over and over while the hype was still high. Next year will be Necrons.

Seriously though, when are we going to see the release of another Space Marines dex?

With SoB being released as a white dwarf codex, it seems like gw is rushing 5th Edition along. I wouldn't be surprised to see Necrons segue into 6th, though it seems like Chaos Marines are usually the first or last codex to be released with every new edition.

This is awesome

seriously though i want robin to write the new dex and not mat ward (not a hater just dont want another overpowered codex with little fluff or blood angles team-up).

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davethepak wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:Of course they've been discontinued. They're about to be repackaged with half the models for 2/3rds the price.

Don't be silly.

I will be half the models for 4/3rds the price....

and we will still buy them....the shame.

unless you buy them from an FLGS

**kitch102**

I'm gonna hazard a guess at September for the 'crons - SoB WD 'dex next month, big release the month after for 'crons, some new models for SoB with a massive focus on the crons and a nice tasty battle report.

I'm just basing this on the theory that they can't release anything for a low popularity army (SoB) without having a quick follow up on their nemesis's's's's's'ses.

Just a guess, probably not even worth putting out there but I wanted my 10 pence worth.

**Pen≥Sword**

cyberscape7 wrote:
Praxiss wrote:I'm going to try and avoid getting my hopes up until i see a Necron on the cover of WD.

Even then, I think you should avoid keeping your hopes up

This reminded me of when DE were getting a new codex after the Incoming announcement and people say, "Well it didn't say anything about a codex..."

**Ctan_Overlord**

I definatly expect to see the Necrons before November and possibly before October seeing as there are absolutely no Necrons in any stores and if they left it like that for long GW would loss money and we all know how GW is when it comes to money

**Your Friend Doctor Robert**

My FLGS owner says he's been told to clear shelf space for new Necron shipments by August.

**Samus_aran115**

EYEofTERROR wrote:I doubt that Necrons will be released anytime this year. Seems like it would steal the thunder from DE. If the release of a new Necron dex will be anything comparable to DE, then I would imagine they would release it in November with a splash release in February. Just like the Dark Eldar. Then they could ride the hype of an all new and spectacular army all year. This is the year of DE, where everyone wanted or bought into Dark Eldar and new releases came out over and over while the hype was still high. Next year will be Necrons.

Seriously though, when are we going to see the release of another Space Marines dex?

With SoB being released as a white dwarf codex, it seems like gw is rushing 5th Edition along. I wouldn't be surprised to see Necrons segue into 6th, though it seems like Chaos Marines are usually the first or last codex to be released with every new edition.

DE were released LAST year. Not this year. There's nothing to take away from. Have you even been reading the thread? Basically everything is confirmed, including the fact that the warriors are discontinued, which should be a dead giveaway.

Why the

do you actually want another SM codex? We've gotten SW, BA and GK in the last couple years, and the faqs have made DA and BT playable again, so there's no immediate need for any new codexes.

**Wakshaani**

My *guess* would be:

Necrons rolling out in November and trailing into December (Time for Xmas!)

GW releases the Sisters codex in Feb online, rather than a full book, unless demand spikes. The handful of plastic kit sales will be closely watched to see if there's a demand for a full codex or not.

Tau Empire roll out in April or May, featuring a few new kits (Broadsides redone Forgeworld-style, new Crisis Suit poses, and ankles that don't snap.)

6th ed in Summer.

Chaos gets the November release of next year.

6th ed box will likely feature Chaos as one half, the other half is trickier ... but for some reason, my gut tells me Imperial Guard. The Guard are moneymaking machines, and while all the other editions have had Good Guy Marines vs Bad Guy Xenos, flipping it to Bad Guy Marines vs good guy squishies both makes sense and keeps a balance in the world. It also seduces people into making Guard armies which, natch, are mad fat bank for GW.

Everybody wins!

The usual look of a (Chaos) Captain, a special unit, and ten guys, vs 20 squishies, a small elite unit, and a command still works (Guard would get, say, three heavy weapon teams and a Lord Commisar, plus twenty Guardsmen. That's not quite as much as Assault on Black Reach's Orks, but close.)

Again, no rumors, no proof, no evidence, just me and my gut.

**ChaosxVoid**

It would be nice to see crons and sob i want my warrior women and my quiet shiny automatons back as both my armies have been collecting dust for a number of years.

But alas one can only hope GW will listen to the people that buy their products (insert sarcastic joke here)