Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Praxiss wrote:I'm going to try and avoid getting my hopes up until i see a Necron on the cover of WD.

Even then, I think you should avoid keeping your hopes up

Lol. If i am dissappointed by the new codex then expect to see my 'crons on ebay pretty quick. I'll switch to renegade guard to back up my chaos army instead.

So everyone's back again huh? Well without Yakface giving out rumors, I don't think this thread is going to reach 60+ pages lol.
Who knows, maybe something new will come up. But indeed, how many more armies must pop up before Necrons? In the end, I agree with Praxiss. Until I see a Necron Lord on the cover of WD I'll refrain from believing much. And I had such high hopes for this August...

I needs my rumors man, I'm gettin the shakes

*taps vein*

reds8n wrote:November would mean we could get a preview of them at GD : Uk.

Which would make sense. And I thought it was always going to be November, or maybe October. Didn't "The Voice" or one of the other rumor regulars make some Halloween hint earlier in the year?

I'm starting to wonder if Tau are in the new box set next year.

Darkjediben wrote:I needs my rumors man, I'm gettin the shakes

*taps vein*

Lol

gorgon wrote:

reds8n wrote:November would mean we could get a preview of them at GD : Uk.

Which would make sense. And I thought it was always going to be November, or maybe October. Didn't "The Voice" or one of the other rumor regulars make some Halloween hint earlier in the year?

I'm starting to wonder if Tau are in the new box set next year.

October is solidly slated to be Ogre Kingdoms from all the somewhat reliable rumor mongers and I doubt they'll release a 40k and fantasy army at the same time.

Who knows at this point though, they could wind up suprising us all.

Everybody should just keep an eye out at Games day to see any new releases. GD is usualy the place to see any new releases.

baron deathnyx wrote:Everybody should just keep an eye out at Games day to see any new releases. GD is usualy the place to see any new releases.

Not usually; only the Dark Eldar reveal at Games Day last year is anything like what you're thinking of. For years, GD was pretty barren.

Given that Necrons would be making a 'rebirth of the line' type event like the DE, after a decade of obscurity, it's possible they'd do the same thing

Or not.. you can never tell with GW

More from Blood of Kittens here.
Unfortunately it's pretty badly written, so here's the gist of it:

Fast Attack slot:
- Scarabs
- Destroyers (+Heavy Destroyers)
- Wraiths
- New Jetbikes (Tomb Blades, from Yakface)

Destroyers
- Only one army list entry
- Fast Attack slot
- Upgrades to Heavy Destroyer (All, just one? No mention)
- Jump Infantry instead of Jetbikes.

Wraiths
- Statline has not changed much
- Strength 6 ("same as a Dreadnought's without its fist")
- 2 Wounds
- Can use wound allocation trickery to a small degree (Upgrades are individual)
- Costs 40 points each ("same as a Terminator")
- 3++ save ("same as a terminator with shield")
- 2 Attacks that Rend
- Moves through terrain without taking a test
- Max unit size is 6
- Fearless
- Jump Infantry
- Can have whips that help with the low Initiative problem (Whips? Like the Tyranid Lash Ship I guess.)

Can equip one of two guns:
- Exiler: Heavy single shot, pistol range. Unit must pass strength test of be removed. Costs 15 points ("same as a Grey Hunter").
- Pistol: Same strength as the Wraith melee attacks. Costs 10 points ("Costs 25% of a Terminator").

Scarabs:
- Apparently puts the Wraiths to serious shame.

C'tan
- Correction about the "makes all terrain dangerous" upgrade: All difficult terrain becomes dangerous

A few things need correcting.

The unit fitting in a Razorback. That's just saying that the max squad size is 6. Backed up by the 12 wound comment later on.

"("the Jump… no… the Beasts… No… The Jetbikes?… no… THE OTHER JUMP!")" Is just talking about the random roll to pick what unit he will talk about.

I like what I hear if it's all true though.

And done. Though to be honest I'm now more interested in hearing about the scarabs, beyond what Yakface mentioned.

Necrons, the new dark eldar.

Ascalam wrote:Given that Necrons would be making a 'rebirth of the line' type event like the DE, after a decade of obscurity, it's possible they'd do the same thing

Or not.. you can never tell with GW

I have a theory that the guys at games workshop roll dice to decide what is coming out when.
e.g. and the august release is- rolls dice- SoB!!! (followed by SM)

On a side note, when is GD UK?

Brother SRM wrote:

baron deathnyx wrote:Everybody should just keep an eye out at Games day to see any new releases. GD is usualy the place to see any new releases.

Not usually; only the Dark Eldar reveal at Games Day last year is anything like what you're thinking of. For years, GD was pretty barren.

GD Germany wasn't even allowed to reveal Space Hulk, which was on preorder the very next day!

Vhalyar wrote:More from Blood of Kittens here.
Unfortunately it's pretty badly written, so here's the gist of it:

Fast Attack slot:
- Scarabs
- Destroyers (+Heavy Destroyers)
- Wraiths
- New Jetbikes (Tomb Blades, from Yakface)

Destroyers
- Only one army list entry
- Fast Attack slot
- Upgrades to Heavy Destroyer (All, just one? No mention)
- Jump Infantry instead of Jetbikes.

Wraiths
- Statline has not changed much
- Strength 6 ("same as a Dreadnought's without its fist")
- 2 Wounds
- Can use wound allocation trickery to a small degree (Upgrades are individual)
- Costs 40 points each ("same as a Terminator")
- 3++ save ("same as a terminator with shield")
- 2 Attacks that Rend
- Moves through terrain without taking a test
- Max unit size is 6
- Fearless
- Jump Infantry
- Can have whips that help with the low Initiative problem (Whips? Like the Tyranid Lash Ship I guess.)

Can equip one of two guns:
- Exiler: Heavy single shot, pistol range. Unit must pass strength test of be removed. Costs 15 points ("same as a Grey Hunter").
- Pistol: Same strength as the Wraith melee attacks. Costs 10 points ("Costs 25% of a Terminator").

Scarabs:
- Apparently puts the Wraiths to serious shame.

C'tan
- Correction about the "makes all terrain dangerous" upgrade: All difficult terrain becomes dangerous

I'm new to the community, but what is the track record for badtaste at Blood of Kittens? I've read them all, but the information is presented in such a weird way (thanks for the translation).

I'm new to the community, but what is the track record for bad taste at Blood of Kittens? I've read them all, but the information is presented in such a weird way (thanks for the translation).

I think you can guess the answer to your own question simply based on the name of that blog. Trust your instincts on this one.

BrassScorpion wrote:

I'm new to the community, but what is the track record for bad taste at Blood of Kittens? I've read them all, but the information is presented in such a weird way (thanks for the translation).

I think you can guess the answer to your own question simply based on the name of that blog. Trust your instincts on this one.

A few dark rituals, sacrifice of innocence and a dash of naivety? That about describes their track record I'd guess.

Anyone have any idea of what would be some relatively "safe" units to buy for necrons right now. My hobby gland is itching for some Necrony goodness.

I'd guess Warriors, and by the sound of the rumours, you'll have more of them now as well.

Been considering getting another Battleforce for the boy, just to bulk up his Warriors count.

Mr.Church13 wrote:Anyone have any idea of what would be some relatively "safe" units to buy for necrons right now. My hobby gland is itching for some Necrony goodness.

Warriors, Destroyers and Monoliths would good to go for safe units...maybe Lords as well. The other stuff I'd stay away from till the Codex comes out on the chance we may be getting revamped units in plastic/resin. I'd also hold off on using the Scarabs from the Warrior boxes to see if they get any changes in the new dex.

Sigh.

Old Wraiths, 6 on charge: 24 attacks, 12 hits, 10 wounds. 3.33 casualties on MEQ, 1.66 on TEQ, 6.66 on GEQ.

New Wraiths, 6 on charge: 18 attacks, 9 hits, 6 wounds + 1.5 rends. 3.5 casualties on MEQ, 2 on TEQ, 5.5 on GEQ.

Old Wraiths, 6: 18 attacks, 9 hits, 7.5 wound. 2.5 casualties on MEQ, 1.25 on TEQ, 5 on GEQ.

New Wraiths, 6: 12 attacks, 6 hits, 4 wounds + 1 rend. 2.33 casualties on MEQ, 1.33 on TEQ, 3.66 on GEQ.

I hope that extra wound turns out to be awesome, because they lost combat power against everything squishier than a Marine.

EDIT: Usual shorthand butchery of statistical rules apply.

The Grog wrote:Sigh.

Old Wraiths, 6 on charge: 24 attacks, 12 hits, 10 wounds. 3.33 casualties on MEQ, 1.66 on TEQ, 6.66 on GEQ.

New Wraiths, 6 on charge: 18 attacks, 9 hits, 6 wounds + 1.5 rends. 3.5 casualties on MEQ, 2 on TEQ, 5.5 on GEQ.

Old Wraiths, 6: 18 attacks, 9 hits, 7.5 wound. 2.5 casualties on MEQ, 1.25 on TEQ, 5 on GEQ.

New Wraiths, 6: 12 attacks, 6 hits, 4 wounds + 1 rend. 2.33 casualties on MEQ, 1.33 on TEQ, 3.66 on GEQ.

I hope that extra wound turns out to be awesome, because they lost combat power against everything squishier than a Marine.

EDIT: Usual shorthand butchery of statistical rules apply.

Good thing most tend to be at marine squish level!

well if they really get another wound, keep the 3++ have wbb moved to 5+ and stay at 40 points I would consider them better. Plus now you would be able to run a true wraith ring (not sure on the lord) but 18 wraiths is 54 s6 rending attacks on the charge.

Curse you misleading title of hopefulness!

You know I would have no problem letting Sisters push my beloved Necrons back if they were getting a fair shake of an update. But a WD codex just seems wrong and I don't even play Sisters.

I tried to order necron warriors last week and was told they were discontinued.

Of course they've been discontinued. They're about to be repackaged with half the models for 2/3rds the price.

I doubt that Necrons will be released anytime this year. Seems like it would steal the thunder from DE. If the release of a new Necron dex will be anything comparable to DE, then I would imagine they would release it in November with a splash release in February. Just like the Dark Eldar. Then they could ride the hype of an all new and spectacular army all year. This is the year of DE, where everyone wanted or bought into Dark Eldar and new releases came out over and over while the hype was still high. Next year will be Necrons.

Seriously though, when are we going to see the release of another Space Marines dex?

With SoB being released as a white dwarf codex, it seems like gw is rushing 5th Edition along. I wouldn't be surprised to see Necrons segue into 6th, though it seems like Chaos Marines are usually the first or last codex to be released with every new edition.