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Maybe the entire layer with the giant skulls can be left off, if th sprue allows... hopefully. You'd only have a shorter telescope tower as a result.

The winged skeleton uglyness at the bottom looks like it could be greenstuffed into rock without too much of a hassle.

So is this definitely being released in December and not November?

If the former, this is an impressively early pic leak - nice rumour control GW

I get that it's a magician's building and so doesn't have to worry about boring old concepts like gravity, but the observatory tower just looks silly balanced on a pointy rock and a couple of wooden beams - I mean, if you want to show magical architecture than why not go all out and just let it float in mid-air?

That said, rearranging the bits into a more 'sensible ' building(and using both tower tops) doesn't look difficult - I had a lot of fun doing the same with previous WHFB plastic building kits.

filbert wrote:Meh, the GW skull fetish doesn't bother me too much - if I can suspend disbelief enough to pretend that little pieces of plastic and metal are super-human armies of the far future, engaged in smiting my enemies, then bothering about a few skull decorations pales in comparison.

it makes sense for some armies but not others, that and, why...
why would you build an island shaped out of a pile of skulls
what possible function could that have?!
these buildings have no function besides "they have skulls oooooh" they look like tacky halloween decorations...that costs over 75 dollars...
maybe I don't want a ruined skull building, or to play on ruined skull buildings

Flashman wrote:So is this definitely being released in December and not November?

If the former, this is an impressively early pic leak - nice rumour control GW

The picture says "on sale november 19th" (right bottom).

Flashman wrote:So is this definitely being released in December and not November?

If the former, this is an impressively early pic leak - nice rumour control GW

The pic says on sale November 19th.

Ah, well spotted gents

filbert wrote:Meh, the GW skull fetish doesn't bother me too much - if I can suspend disbelief enough to pretend that little pieces of plastic and metal are super-human armies of the far future, engaged in smiting my enemies, then bothering about a few skull decorations pales in comparison.

It's not so much a suspension of disbelief issue so much as it is an I-don't-like-to-spend-tons-of-money-on-ridiculous-looking-model-kits issue.

Personally I'm beginning to think it's intentional. They are now just playing a game of seeing how many terrible skulls they can stick on their kits before they won't sell.

Kroothawk wrote:Here a leaked pic by Bauhaus86 over at Warseer:

Holy Carp! It DOES look just like Karazhan!!!

Clang wrote:I get that it's a magician's building and so doesn't have to worry about boring old concepts like gravity, but the observatory tower just looks silly balanced on a pointy rock and a couple of wooden beams - I mean, if you want to show magical architecture than why not go all out and just let it float in mid-air?

I like it, and the ramshackle nature appeals to me.

I have FAR TOO MUCH terrain as it is so I doubt I'll actually pull the trigger on this one, but I am tempted.

Can I somehow get the awesome left half of the building, without the over the top skully right side? Then it would be cool. (and cheaper too)

Not a fan. I like the observatory, but it's a little too small and a little too covered in twin-tail comets to make a good Defence Laser silo.

JOHIRA wrote:

filbert wrote:Meh, the GW skull fetish doesn't bother me too much - if I can suspend disbelief enough to pretend that little pieces of plastic and metal are super-human armies of the far future, engaged in smiting my enemies, then bothering about a few skull decorations pales in comparison.

It's not so much a suspension of disbelief issue so much as it is an I-don't-like-to-spend-tons-of-money-on-ridiculous-looking-model-kits issue.

Yeah, I was gonna say the same thing. The skulls thing doesn't bother me because I can't suspend my disbelief, it bothers me because it looks like gak on 99% of what they do.

I'd have bought this thing without the skulls. I don't even fething play WHF, probably never will, but that was literally the first thing that came to mind when the pic loaded. "Awesome, I want that. Too bad it's covered in huge, ridiculous skulls that would be more trouble than its worth trying to remove/cover up."

I have a serious question that I'd like to get honest answers for, I'm not joking around when I say this. How many of you guys buy GW terrain because it's covered in giant, ugly skulls? If you plan on buying this kit, would you still buy it if the skulls were gone? Likewise, if you're not buying it, would you have if it weren't covered in ugly skulls, or there was at least an option to leave that crap off?

H.B.M.C. wrote:Maybe 'skulldanium', that naturally occuring resource that you can see just under the ground on the Realm of Battle Board, is a real thing in the Warhammer World, and they use it as their main building material?

lol

I would purchase on release day if it did not have any skulls anywhere or at least the option to keep the skulls off. As it is, I'll look elsewhere for terrain.

Sidstyler wrote:I have a serious question that I'd like to get honest answers for, I'm not joking around when I say this. How many of you guys buy GW terrain because it's covered in giant, ugly skulls? If you plan on buying this kit, would you still buy it if the skulls were gone? Likewise, if you're not buying it, would you have if it weren't covered in ugly skulls, or there was at least an option to leave that crap off?

I really don't mind having the ground littered with skulls - I still add them to model bases. It's part of the look of WH40k and WHFB. But I really don't like the big ones. Big skulls look wrong. I've avoided buying terrain which has them (e.g. the Chaos temple). I like this new piece of terrain (I can't see any problem with the fact that it's defying gravity - it's a fantasy model), which I think could be made into a rather cool Ork Mek's workshop. But I will be puttying over the big skulls.

I like big skulls when it makes sense in context with the particular piece.

As I said earlier, the Garden of Morr? It's a grave yard, so it's a perfect place for skulls. Realm of Battle Board, with its rich veins of Skulldanium, not a good place for skulls. Even with this one I like it because it's an archetypal 'Skull Throne'... but the skull islands in Dreadfleet are just silly. A 'skull island', ok fine, but all of them are skull-filled islands and it's just OOT and silly.

A couple of years back I made my chaos army with GIANT SKULLS on the front of each rhino as my little joke about GW's imagery.

Since then they've topped me a dozen times over.

At least this one doesn't have skull rocks.

And did anyone notice that apparently the Astromancer moonlights as a member of the Ultramarines first company give the number of terminator honors on his house?

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
And did anyone notice that apparently the Astromancer moonlights as a member of the Ultramarines first company give the number of terminator honors on his house?

It's an Iron Cross.

They've been on Empire models as far back as I can remember.

Heck, the Knights are slathered with them.

Can't say I'm fan of it, Looks like it could have been quite neat, failed in execution.

Does that stone walkway the wizard is standing on link up with any other terrain? It kind of looks like it could connect to something else, but I can't think of any kits that it would link to.

Once again, an otherwise beautiful piece of GW terrain is ruined by a plethora of skulls. Enough with the skulls!

GW terrain is like GW vehicles. They couldn't fit a miniature dwarf in any of it. I make my own terrain so I can actually have something that at least looks like someone tried to build it with scale in mind. Vehicles I just have to suffer through for now.

Reminds me of the observatory in Warhammer Online. I echo the too much skullz comments.

It's like a cross between the Fortified Manor, the Garden of Morr and Witchfate Tor.
I love it.

N'Ferno wrote:Reminds me of the observatory in Warhammer Online.

It is very similar. This is a good thing IMO however.

make a good Defence Laser silo.

get.out.of.my.mind.



First thing I thought of when I saw it.

Two terrain pieces for the price of one.

reds8n wrote:

Doing it right.

Kroothawk wrote:

Doing it wrong.

Can you spot the difference?

Agreen Kroothawk. Boring. We have seen this all before.

Turn the page GW, we need something new and for non empire players.

I hate it. That Warhammer Online one looks like something out of some dark fairy tale. This one just looks stupid. If only they were more focused on making good terrain than satisfying their skull fetish.

I think it is hit or miss.

Not bad, considering that I have one of Daves that was free.

But with a grinder and some files, I think this would make a great jumping off point for making a generic Mad scientist/ Necromancer lab, or something like that.

Needs more skully skull skulls, though. Would really like to see some additional attachments, ( LIKE that laser from the Bastion, a control Terminal, or a quad laser.)

Add in something, such as a larger platform with the sacrifical victims, the piles of dead, or some areas on the piece that you can actually DO something with, and this would be an alltime cool buy from GW. As usual, though, they have something that looks halfway decent, but just doesn't fit the common sense test.

That set is a good jumping off point. Between that and that graveyard, there is a lot of ground to be covered if one were to get those and do it right.

One thing I would do would be to base that tower, either on a 1X1 or 2X2 board, so that it has some stability, and add in more rock, either plaster, styro, or some of that resic/ plastic stuff. I'd put in some areas that you can let the figures do stuff in and move, and I would more or less cut off that bottom house and make it out of popsical stick. balsa wood and stain it with chestnut ink and drybrush it grey/ darkangel green.

Add in elements of the graveyardset and manor house, and you could have a good center piece for Evil Yoda, when your playing your ebiquitous go through the scary area to meet the only guy that has the magic so and so.

Only issue I have with it is the price. AS USUAL, heaven forbid you cut and modify a GW terreign piece....

Hmm looks like another Mordheim terrain purchase for sure.

Although looking at it, other than for a Skirmish game, it seems a little unwieldy for a normal Warhammer battletop.