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NOVA Open 2012 will be the first of three events to qualify primary spots on Team America for the 2013 40k ETC. The other events are AdeptiCon 2013 and WarGamesCon 2013.

Additional information on the wild card qualifiers - Bay Area Open, Feast of Blades, and DaBoyz - can be found along with overall team data via

http://whiskey40k.blogspot.com/2012/05/nova-open-2012-is-team-america.html

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2012/05/40k-team-america-2012-is-go.html

http://teamamerica40k.com/?page_id=39

One more little reason to attend all of these phenomenal events.

Glad to hear it. As one of the three largest singles tournaments in the US you guys deserved to be on it

VIP Bags releasing June 1 will be available to first come first serve, only 50 for sale.

They'll be $40 more than the standard Weekend Badge, and include the Weekend Badge + standard swag bag contents, as well as additional swag bag contents.

The VIP Bags themselves are being donated by KR Multicase, and will be their Backpack 2, costed at over $75 retail:

http://www.krmulticase.com/cases.aspx?s=S

So, for less than what the KR Backpack 2 would normally cost (not even counting the fact you won't pay shipping), you'll receive your $35 weekend badge, tons of regular swag, benefits (to be released along with the option to purchase on June 1), and special limited edition VIP-bag-only swag.

People who have already purchased a weekend badge will have an option to pay the difference to upgrade.

In addition to a TON of prize support, swag bag content additions, and other goodies donated by KR, anyone who purchases from KR the weekend of and week following the NOVA will get some SERIOUS free goods along with their purchase.

Basic swag bags already will contain numerous miniatures, bits, gaming aids and general gaming product, and are already at their most stuffed ever.

We're up to 7 vendors confirmed or near-confirmed this year, including the return of last year's popular booths with The Warstore and Spikey Bitz. We'll also be demo'ing several new and rising game systems this year, along with our full offering of events.

The 40k GT is starting to get much closer to selling out, so grab your tickets! They're selling at a faster pace than last year, and we sold all 256 before registration closed out in 2011.

Also, those who have, remember to get your hotel reservations pronto; the sooner you do, the more raffle ticket you get, and there's literally 0 cost to reserving rooms early ... THOSE are also reserving WAY faster than last year, and I want to make sure folks get their rooms.

Just got the video in my email... you're pretty hilarious in this, Mike!




Is that your girlfriend / significant other / etc, or just someone you convinced to do a funny wargaming video

I thought the Tony Kopach part was pretty hilarious. Hadn't heard the "T-3PO" nickname before, lol!

Looking forward to making it out this year for the first time, likely for the warmahordes events only, though.

Dude, awesome, you beat me to it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW9S2Ll1xJ8

This movie had NOTHING to do with me, haha.

Kelly is an old friend I grew up with, and a model in real life. She's pretty awesome, though ... and will be "in character" at the NOVA this year.

Tony was a great sport too, going along with the jokes and the pokes and making him out to look like a WAAC bling bling tourney dude.

We're totally stoked to have you out this year, regardless of event

Thanks for linking the movie, and everyone - check it out.

This thing was come up with by our staff ... they just demanded I get in it and put on stupid accents and act the parts they wrote out for me. The NOVA is all about our attendees, our staff, our sponsors ... the works ... and being a sandbox where anything can happen if you have the heart and mind for it.

Jon Pryts took the idea of doing a caricatured movie of our hobby making people laugh, and when he said "wouldn't it be cool if we did a movie," we actually ... well ... encouraged him and supported him in doing it!

Go on over, "like" it (or not, I guess), and I hope to see everyone at the NOVA too! I know Catbox and The Rage will probably also be there in character, if the appeal of Unicorn Boots isn't your cup of tea

Thanks again for posting it up man!


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Actually, lol, that's not the link!

This is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW9S2Ll1xJ8

Ridiculous, yet oddly entertaining. The wife thought it was pretty funny too

Ridiculous, yet oddly entertaining is about how I felt acting in it

I can't bring myself to watch it comfortably, though ... something about watching myself try to act is just plain impossible. We had a goofy, tongue-in-cheek "premier" night for the staff prior to release, where the fillmmaker and director/writer-of-script/comer-upper-with-idea guy talked about the process, and we watched it on a big projection screen ... and I basically stood in the back with drink in hand and facepalmed.

This hobby is awesome ... as is the support we've gotten for the NOVA ... it brought together an amazing staff of volunteers ... and has created a situation where what we want to do, we can do (all at 0 cost to our registrants', as we didn't use any registration funds to make the short).

Sooo much fun to be a part of that video. I'm glad folks enjoy it!

Apparently I was watching the Dropzone Commander video before this one, whoops!

Hilarious and cool to know the background of it . Also edited my link, wish I could figure out how to actually embed a video in a post in this forum...

Edit: And figured it out so embedded it above for those who won't click on links

Sweet dude! Thanks for doing that; I have no idea how to do that sorta thing either.

For those keeping up, some more shots of our DC Narrative Terrain pieces, as well as images of completed 2012 Center LOS Blocker, and WIP of our airbrushed terrain for 2012

http://whiskey40k.blogspot.com/2012/05/terrain-moves-forth-plus-sample-los.html

Is it safe to say that if 6th edition doesnt come out Saturday then NOVA will be 5th edition? This is really killing my prep for the tourny not knowing if my army that I have spent months on will be valid in the new edition.

What is your 6th edition cuttoff time? What I mean is at what point do you say not enough time we are going 5th regardless? Or if its 6th regardless? Or has this choice already been made?

Any info would be great. I like to prepare months ahead of time so I can test my lists etc. Same with the trios until we know we cant prepare. So again any info would be great on if or when there is a hard cap?

Disclaimer: Just in case this has already been answered somewhere in this thread my bad I never learned how to read well.

Blah Blah, Grimwulfe...

Max Purifiers will work just fine in 6th ed!

Grimwulfe wrote:Is it safe to say that if 6th edition doesnt come out Saturday then NOVA will be 5th edition? This is really killing my prep for the tourny not knowing if my army that I have spent months on will be valid in the new edition.

What is your 6th edition cuttoff time? What I mean is at what point do you say not enough time we are going 5th regardless? Or if its 6th regardless? Or has this choice already been made?

Any info would be great. I like to prepare months ahead of time so I can test my lists etc. Same with the trios until we know we cant prepare. So again any info would be great on if or when there is a hard cap?

Disclaimer: Just in case this has already been answered somewhere in this thread my bad I never learned how to read well.

Either way, 5th or 6th, you're kind of in the same boat. 6th's rules haven't been totally confirmed yet (unless I missed a leaked PDF somewhere), so all you can do is practice in 5th regardless. Winning team tournaments has always been more about communicating and tactics than rules sets.

The Invitational will be 5th, period.
If 6th Releases more than 1 month out, the Narrative will be 6th, period.

The GT is the big question mark. We've written about it on whiskey, and I'm up for input/discussion here as well, but the long and short is we'll know more soon.

If 6th looks to hit peoples' hands prior to July, there's a chance we'll go with 6th for the GT, unless the changes are just far too radical for players to fairly adjust.

If it looks like the rulebooks won't ship until July, we'll stick with 5th for the GT.

The long and short of all of this is - you should continue to prep for a 5th Edition GT, the last large 5th Edition GT ever, in fact.

If you wish to play 6th Edition at NOVA, you will have at least 4 rounds of opportunity to (the Narrative), in a setting that is built for both competitive and casual players (the Narrative orients its pairings around list and player preference).

For what it's worth, Troy, it also totally screws with our prep, haha!

If we do go with 6th, we will be unlikely to incorporate any extremely esoteric new rules compared to 5th (i.e. random terrain, bringing your own purchased terrain, etc.), which - if there's a TON of those things, and they're in the core rules, and not "back-book" appendices - means it's MORE likely we'll stick, with 5th out of fairness and fun in the GT.

Expounding on this more as I think through how to articulate it ...

Let's say randomized terrain is just "difficult or dangerous," Allies are in the back of the rulebook as a campaign or otherwise optional addendum, terrain LOS / etc. rules remain similar enough to cope, purchased terrain is an addendum or of limited capacity / benefit, etc. etc., and the real changes are more "how you play the game" and not "brand new things added into the game." Well, that'll be easier to switch to 6th with a 60 day window for player prep than not.

If, however, everything RADICALLY changes in terms of the CORE rules, we'll probably stick with a massive 256-player send-off to 5th Edition.



PS - For those still waiting on registration, we are a lot closer to sold out for the 40k GT than we were at this point last year ... and last year sold out.


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PPS - It's in the works that a couple of top tier, grand prizes this year will be military-grade ballistic shielded (but still lightweight), upgraded figure cases. Literally one of a kind, hand-upgraded by a custom body armor / riot shield manufacturer. If you're military/law enforcement, ex-military/LE, or just a military/LE geek, these things will be shielded by next gen lightweight ballistic shielding that's tuned to stop extremely high powered rounds and impacts. They'll be the closest things to invulnerable figure cases ever owned.

Ballistic Glass/Materials for my miniatures? Epic level awesomeness and in no way shape or form do I want to see the price tag on those babies.

Redbeard wrote:

Blackmoor wrote:
You had to pay for internet. Big deal, so you had to use your smart phone or go without for a weekend. Really, no internet for 3 days is such a big deal?

The only problem I saw with the hotel was that parking was a bit high.

Both of these are indicative of an establishment that's trying to nickel & dime their customers. I've traveled across the country on my bike several times, and even the smallest mom&pop inns offer free wi-fi these days. Pay extra to park at a place you're staying? They're being deceptive about the actual cost to stay there, and that makes people angry. They get away with it because business travelers, who probably make up most of their clients, don't care as they're expensing it.

I also noticed the 'pay-for-wifi' at the adepticon hotel last year, but oddly, there was free wifi in the lobbies and lounges. That makes me believe they're losing revenue from pay-per-view porn if they offer free wifi in the rooms.

Can I just say as a network engineer, there is a drastic cost difference between providing high-quality WI-FI in a lobby of a hotel and providing high-quality WI-FI for every room in an entire hotel?

That WI-FI infrastructure to keep the entire hotel blanketed and working for a place that big is a huge investment and a real cost which is nothing easy to dismiss. If they were to do free-wifi they would need to cover the cost somehow, probably with increased room costs.

When you are a 2 floor Motel 6, it is not at all a big deal to drop two hotspots and share off your business internet. There is no costs and makes people happy. For the Hyatt you are talking at least a 100k start up initiative with a substantial 10k a month upkeep fee for repair, data usage and staff to keep it functioning, and these are conservative estimates as I have done this exact thing for commercial offices and know the pain and cost of getting reliable Wi-Fi throughout a large building.

As for the 6th edition talk: I think there is no right answer unless 6th comes out basically tomorrow. It is hard to take an event which is based off of qualifiers on 5th and make it 6th, it doesn't make sense. But depending on the impact and time to practice, it may make sense for the tourney. And even if everyone is playing 5th all weekend, the narritive which is supposed to be fun allows people to maybe watch/participate in 6th.

Will the new Flyers be legit for any of the formats?

Unholy_Martyr wrote:Ballistic Glass/Materials for my miniatures? Epic level awesomeness and in no way shape or form do I want to see the price tag on those babies.

It IS epic! And it's being donated. So, priceless in numerous ways (not the least of which is that they'll be literally unique, and the most damage-resistant mini cases on the planet ... plus with soft foam inside due to KR's process that won't nick/damage your minis' extended bits).


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nkelsch wrote:

Redbeard wrote:

Blackmoor wrote:
You had to pay for internet. Big deal, so you had to use your smart phone or go without for a weekend. Really, no internet for 3 days is such a big deal?

The only problem I saw with the hotel was that parking was a bit high.

Both of these are indicative of an establishment that's trying to nickel & dime their customers. I've traveled across the country on my bike several times, and even the smallest mom&pop inns offer free wi-fi these days. Pay extra to park at a place you're staying? They're being deceptive about the actual cost to stay there, and that makes people angry. They get away with it because business travelers, who probably make up most of their clients, don't care as they're expensing it.

I also noticed the 'pay-for-wifi' at the adepticon hotel last year, but oddly, there was free wifi in the lobbies and lounges. That makes me believe they're losing revenue from pay-per-view porn if they offer free wifi in the rooms.

Can I just say as a network engineer, there is a drastic cost difference between providing high-quality WI-FI in a lobby of a hotel and providing high-quality WI-FI for every room in an entire hotel?

That WI-FI infrastructure to keep the entire hotel blanketed and working for a place that big is a huge investment and a real cost which is nothing easy to dismiss. If they were to do free-wifi they would need to cover the cost somehow, probably with increased room costs.

When you are a 2 floor Motel 6, it is not at all a big deal to drop two hotspots and share off your business internet. There is no costs and makes people happy. For the Hyatt you are talking at least a 100k start up initiative with a substantial 10k a month upkeep fee for repair, data usage and staff to keep it functioning, and these are conservative estimates as I have done this exact thing for commercial offices and know the pain and cost of getting reliable Wi-Fi throughout a large building.

As for the 6th edition talk: I think there is no right answer unless 6th comes out basically tomorrow. It is hard to take an event which is based off of qualifiers on 5th and make it 6th, it doesn't make sense. But depending on the impact and time to practice, it may make sense for the tourney. And even if everyone is playing 5th all weekend, the narritive which is supposed to be fun allows people to maybe watch/participate in 6th.

Will the new Flyers be legit for any of the formats?

I think we're inclined to allow the Flyers, but we haven't met to formalize that yet. None of them are very game-impactful, and the rules are readily available to everyone. TBD, but they'll for sure be legal in the Narrative.

The new flyers shouldn't even be an issue honestly. It's over 1 month prior to the event and they are official updates to the codex. GW doesn't do it often but they are official additions so I don't know why there is even a conversation. Until it was asked I didn't even think there was a possibility of them not being allowed

Also, the fliers aren't really fliers, they're just additions that follow basically the same rules used for the DE 'fliers' like the razorwing.

If they were like the old apoc-flyer rules, that'd be a different beast altogether.

VIP Bags are now for sale!

June Newsletter contains more information:
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VIP Bags themselves are KR Multicase Backpack 2's

One of the 50 VIP bag purchasers will receive a bag already professionally up-armored by Basic Black (http://basicblack.us)

TONS of stuff is in each VIP bag, in addition to Guidebook name recognition, and VIP registration line access


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We've also JUMPED in sales of all events, clearing last year's pace in all of them.

The DC Narrative will likely be in 6th Edition, and is selling fast.
Warmachine/Hordes have sold over 15 spots in the last weekend alone.

Get your tickets while you can!

I'm a little confused. Does the VIP bag price include the weekend badge or is it the $75 plus the $35 badge? Just curious

They are independent. I actually goofed a little earlier on, possibly in this thread, and stated the $75 was inclusive, it's NOT. The VIP are an additional rate.

Also, just an FYI, we've sold over half the VIP bags already! We DO NOT have more than the 50 for this year.

Plus, first of the DC Monuments for the Narrative complete!

So you don't get the regular swag bag if you buy a VIP bag?

You have to buy a weekend badge either way, and that includes the regular swag bag.

MVBrandt wrote:Warmachine/Hordes have sold over 15 spots in the last weekend alone.

Get your tickets while you can!

A lot of the local Warmahordes players have been asking about a possible day pass, since most wouldn't be down for the entire weekend. It would be very popular for the Privateer Press crowd!

I think our local press ganger (Nate) was going to talk to you about this today, but figured I'd post it in the thread, too.

Although, I didn't realize there were still spots open for the 40k GT... that's a bit tempting, now that I know it's still open. Do you know about how many spots are left in it?

Nate didn't actually quite get to talking with me about it, though it's something we always bandy back and forth.

The general struggle is with finances; the NOVA is definitely still in a "start-up" mode, where attendee totals (~450-550) and costs roughly match our budget. So, I tend to fork out the next year in advance from my checking in terms of covering storage after September, and we operate at - where possible - a 3-figure loss instead of 4-figure. So, there's no technical barrier to day passes, but there's a bit of a financial barrier in terms of event space cost + operational cost for running wm/h vs. attendance total at present.

That gobbledeegook is what we bandy about in terms of determining what to do :p ... trust me when I say that my staff all call me "Santa Claus (that's actually the nickname they gave me)," because I'd just as soon have nobody pay a thing and donate $100 swag bags to every attendee ... I'm always the voice of "how can we make this cheaper?" That said, I'm not sure if we can this year.

I can say the weekend badge fee does certainly get you a pretty sweet swag bag, and we're trying by the year to make said swag bag far less 40k-centric (with notable success).

The 40k GT has well under 100 spots left at this point, and we sold about 25 ticket just this weekend. We're over 80% full, though, so I would not wait a lot to make that choice.

I'll chat with Nate about the day pass "idea," but it's also difficult b/c the WM/H event is also now more than 50% sold out, and we're expecting some significant PP presence/support to boot.

Thanks for the thorough explanation! That makes sense, and I guess it's a trade-off... you could draw in more warmahordes players with a day pass, but there would have to a be a signifcantly higher number to make up for the loss in people not purchasing weekend passes.

However, now that I know there is space in the GT, I think I will participate in it instead! It would be a great goal for me to finish out the army I started for the Adepticon team tourney.

I just PM'ed you a conversion question, as I didn't see where to submit those. Thank you

Hey Mike, did you get my PM? No rush, just wanted to check.

RiTides wrote:Just got the video in my email... you're pretty hilarious in this, Mike!

As soon as I heard disguise I knew the German accent was on its way.

Mike also does a spot on impression of Bane around 4 minutes in, with the catbox character.

Haha I'm glad you enjoyed the impressions ... honestly wasn't my idea to do them! The guy who scripted it just knows me well :p

IN other news, Steve I got your question, and it's a go-ahead. I just need to craft the correct formal response for your PM box with some helpful tips. Been a crazy week at work but I hope to get to it today.

- Mike


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Oh, and for all - There are a dwindling number of tickets available for all events, none has quite sold out yet.

The VIP Bags have been selling like hotcakes ... only about 10 remain. Understandable sell-rate, considering you get a free KR Backpack 2 with the VIP purchase.