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Why are the 2 battle reports played with the exact same terrain set up?

Brothererekose wrote:" We " ? That's an assumption on your part.

I'm interested in seeing a tau player beat an opponent who didn't make mistakes, with a cut-throat list (neither of the SW list nor this ork list) and had average dice. With real pictures, not vassal.

Your opponents made some doozy-sized blunders, so your two batreps have been disappointments.

You didn't make mistakes, nor did I see you do anything extraordinary or brilliant. Opponents came at you. You shot them. They made key mistakes. You won (insert a slow/sarcastic clap orky-emoticon).

It's easy to win when the other guy makes mistakes. Colossal ones like mounting up Long Fangs, denying two Turns of shooting when there was a D'fish to shoot, FWs, b-sides ....

Oh, WE is NOT an assumption because WE does not have to include you. It can simply encompass the few who have responded positively. So yeah, time to brush up on your English

And since you summed it up pretty well that you actually find no value in the BatRep, why are you here in the first place? Ironic? I mean isn't it understood that if you find a certain BatRep useless, you just move on to the next one in search for a better one? So is this just an excuses to vent your anger because I shot down your silly argument of shooting Missiles at 2+ armors? Dude, I only have this to say to you :- YOU ARE PRETTY CHILDISH. Seriously, GROW UP. If you don't find value in my BatRep, feel free to roam elsewhere for others. I have enough requests in my pms (for BatRep against specific army types) that I cannot already handle, so I am not hard up for your thumbs up.

No need to try so hard to get my attention. THat's plain childish.

Brothererekose wrote:I'd love to hear from the SW player and how he feels about the game, and why didn't he just *Move& Run* his LFs to better LoS on Turn 1, block/protect them with a Razor/rhino for a that turn and move it away Turn 2? Heck, a BA Baal-pred spam player did that to me today.

As repeated times and again , you can't interpret the vassal pictures properly. He don't have LOS even if he slogs for a single turn. I am not going to put in effort to explain everything to you when obviously you are the only one who have problem reading my pictures. Also, if you want to discuss the SW batrep, do it in another thread. I m going to report your post if you derail this thread again. That's my warning.

Brothererekose wrote:Face it, Issy, you're going to have to get tougher/smarter/better playing opponents and have them play better games than the two you've shown if you want to be taken seriously as a tau player with something to add.

I love to play TOUGHER opponents of course. But you are certainly not one of them And as a Tau player, I am definitely advocating to place Broadsides in LOS of Long Fangs. . Whether I am adding value to fellow Tau players, I leave it to them to decide after reading my series of BatReps. I am not hard up for anyone's (including YOU) acknowledgement :-). So if my presentations don't suit your needs, COOL! Go somewhere else, I am not begging you to stay . YUp, BYE ???


And let me reiterate once again. Brothererekose, grow up. These are only toys soliders. No need for all these childish act because there are more important things in life :-)


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do you hear the voices to wrote:Why are the 2 battle reports played with the exact same terrain set up?

The intention was to keep everything else constant so that we have the same basis for comparison.
But feel free to suggest otherwise, and explain why. I ll take your suggestion into consideration and make improvements as necessary.

Isseyfaran wrote:

These are only toys soliders. No need for all these childish act because there are more important things in life :-)

Then why do you get so defensive?

Mar'tacus wrote:

Isseyfaran wrote:

These are only toys soliders. No need for all these childish act because there are more important things in life :-)

Then why do you get so defensive?

YOUR assumption.

And I remember you too. You have derailed my thread enough with your silly emoticons. You should get the 'bye' too.

That makes sense, but I think it would better showcase you're tactical prowess if you and your opponent each got to place 3 or 4 pieces of terrain wherever you wanted, prior to choosing table edges or deployment methods. That way there is a decent amount of terrain and you could show us different deployment strategies under different circumstances... OR have a third party place terrain in a non-bias, semi random manner.

Isseyfaran wrote:

Mar'tacus wrote:

Isseyfaran wrote:

These are only toys soliders. No need for all these childish act because there are more important things in life :-)

Then why do you get so defensive?

YOUR assumption.

And I remember you too. You have derailed my thread enough with your silly emoticons. You should get the 'bye' too.

Says the guy with 9 emoticons in his previous post....

I would still like to see an answer on how the game was played. Was is purely done in Vassal? Or was it a real game with a real person playing the opponent? You should throw some batreps out with real pics. It would look better and give a better overall view of the battlefield.

Dodgywop wrote:Says the guy with 9 emoticons in his previous post....

My emoticons were part of my context - hardly a spam.
His was a single post with a single emoticon and nothing else.

Guess you should get your facts right first in future. If you feel like picking a fight, go somewhere else. Or if you decide you want to ask a question next time, start your message with a more polite tone.
I m sick of entertaining guys like you.



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do you hear the voices to wrote:That makes sense, but I think it would better showcase you're tactical prowess if you and your opponent each got to place 3 or 4 pieces of terrain wherever you wanted, prior to choosing table edges or deployment methods. That way there is a decent amount of terrain and you could show us different deployment strategies under different circumstances... OR have a third party place terrain in a non-bias, semi random manner.

We didnt know the board beforehand. I picked this out from a series of all my games, and i purposely chose the games with the same terrain set up. I reckon there are simply too many combination of terrain set ups to go through, so I decided i shall start with the Nova style FIRST.

If i have time, i ll continue to do Tau BatReps with a different terrain set up.

Isseyfaran wrote: If you feel like picking a fight, go somewhere else. Or if you decide you want to ask a question next time, start your message with a more polite tone.
I m sick of entertaining guys like you.

Isseyfaran, you really don't have any grounds to lecture someone else on taking "a more polite tone". People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. . . and there's quite a number of people, from what I can see, who share the opinion that you aren't precisely the most polite person.

On topic; Well played. The Ork player made a few mistakes, but then if people didn't make mistakes nobody would EVER win, and you certainly took advantage of them. The one thing an Ork player just can't do against Tau firepower is get bogged down like he did.

BeRzErKeR wrote:

Isseyfaran wrote: If you feel like picking a fight, go somewhere else. Or if you decide you want to ask a question next time, start your message with a more polite tone.
I m sick of entertaining guys like you.

Isseyfaran, you really don't have any grounds to lecture someone else on taking "a more polite tone". People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. . . and there's quite a number of people, from what I can see, who share the opinion that you aren't precisely the most polite person.

Funny that you couldnt stand me, but take effort to read my batrep, and comment in my thread. You know what? I actually find it kind of hilarious. Either (1) my Tau BatReps are really excellent, OR (2) they are not, but you just can't help it and felt like you had to come in and say something. Because seriously, I don't remember inviting you here, did I?

Oh and regarding me calling out ork walkers as bad choice in a wagon list, I am not the only one apparently. YOUR friend Jidmah, criticised it in another thread as well .

At least take the time to read the rest of his post...

He complimented you, for Christ's sake!

Isseyfaran wrote: Funny that you couldnt stand me, but take effort to read my batrep, and comment in my thread. You know what? I actually find it kind of hilarious. Either (1) my Tau BatReps are really excellent, OR (2) they are not, but you just can't help it and felt like you had to come in and say something. Because seriously, I don't remember inviting you here, did I?

Oh and regarding me calling out ork walkers as bad choice in a wagon list, I am not the only one apparently. YOUR friend Jidmah, criticised it in another thread as well .

I enjoy reading BatReps, even if I personally dislike the person playing. And hey, you never know from whom you might learn something. You played pretty well, and I said so; you also run your mouth like a middle-school student, and I said so. Honesty is a habit of mine, even online. Perhaps I should work on that.

Regarding 'inviting' me. . . you posted a public thread. I didn't notice any 'By Invitation Only' sign hanging on the door.

I don't actually know Jidmah, but I'm quite aware that a lot of people don't like using walkers in a wagon list; did you think that would be surprising? I've been running 'em off and on for years, I've heard it all. Doesn't bother me.

Of course, that's irrelevant to this particular batrep. . . though it is worth noting that if he'd had a couple Deff Dreads instead of those Lootas, he'd have done better against you.

Hey, guys!

Isn't this a forum for fun discussions about games of toy soldiers??

Keep it cool, eh.

Kilkrazy wrote:

Will there be spankings?

Kilkrazy, didja mean "No more Mont'ka Business"?

Isseyfaran wrote:

Dodgywop wrote:Says the guy with 9 emoticons in his previous post....

My emoticons were part of my context - hardly a spam.
His was a single post with a single emoticon and nothing else.

Guess you should get your facts right first in future.

I did have my facts straight. There were 9 emoticons in your post. Maybe you should try reading your own post again.

If you feel like picking a fight, go somewhere else.

I wasn't picking a fight. I was only pointing out that you are a hypocrite.

Or if you decide you want to ask a question next time, start your message with a more polite tone.
I m sick of entertaining guys like you.

I did ask a question. Which has also been asked by other members as well and you have still yet to answer it. I can't help but thinking you are being deliberate...

If anyone deserves a lecture on using appropriate "tone", it's you. Your constant spam of emoticons and repetitive use of the words "Silly, "Embarass" and "LOL" makes you come off as nothing more than a child with a poor vocabulary.

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Now, can you answer the question that I asked in my previous post?

Like I have mentioned previously, not going to entertain people like you anymore. I have reported your post to the Mod.

And just an advice for you :- If you want an answer from someone (at least from me), engage with a polite tone. Otherwise, you can never expect to receive an answer, and I don't owe you one. And you are right! I am being deliberate. Well of course, the consolation for you is that you can always feel free to leave for other threads. I am Not going to stop you

And since you find me intolerable, why bother talking to me? Are you that desperate for attention from me? OK, starting from NOW, go talk to someone else

Dodgywop wrote:

Isseyfaran wrote:

Dodgywop wrote:Says the guy with 9 emoticons in his previous post....

My emoticons were part of my context - hardly a spam.
His was a single post with a single emoticon and nothing else.

Guess you should get your facts right first in future.

I did have my facts straight. There were 9 emoticons in your post. Maybe you should try reading your own post again.

If you feel like picking a fight, go somewhere else.

I wasn't picking a fight. I was only pointing out that you are a hypocrite.

Or if you decide you want to ask a question next time, start your message with a more polite tone.
I m sick of entertaining guys like you.

I did ask a question. Which has also been asked by other members as well and you have still yet to answer it. I can't help but thinking you are being deliberate...

If anyone deserves a lecture on using appropriate "tone", it's you. Your constant spam of emoticons and repetitive use of the words "Silly, "Embarass" and "LOL" makes you come off as nothing more than a child with a poor vocabulary.

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Now, can you answer the question that I asked in my previous post?

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BeRzErKeR wrote:I enjoy reading BatReps, even if I personally dislike the person playing. And hey, you never know from whom you might learn something. You played pretty well,and I said so;

I hope you did learn something. My pleasure.

BeRzErKeR wrote: you also run your mouth like a middle-school student, and I said so. Honesty is a habit of mine, even online. Perhaps I should work on that.

You should. I second that. Maybe it shall start from today.

BeRzErKeR wrote:Regarding 'inviting' me. . . you posted a public thread. I didn't notice any 'By Invitation Only' sign hanging on the door.

FACT is, if you are going to comment about anything not related to the game, then save the comment for yourself. OK, next time I will remember to add this comment to the original post. But now, you are warned.

So if you have 2 comments to make, 1 related to the game and the other not, save the latter for yourself. I m not interested.

BeRzErKeR wrote:Of course, that's irrelevant to this particular batrep. . . though it is worth noting that if he'd had a couple Deff Dreads instead of those Lootas, he'd have done better against you.

Besides the point that DEffdreads aren't even a good complement to wagons in a competitive TAC list (as mentioned by me, by your 'friend' Jidmah, and in fact many others) , I also don't see how that slow moving Dread will do any good to the game. In fact, it will be more of a liability.

And to be frank, one of the way the ork player could have done better in THIS game was to have more lootas (and lootas are excellent choices in TAC list as well), swap the burnas to something else, and create more targets of threats. Burna boys are very poor choice in Ork BW list because they don't have duality. Those lootas ARE very reliable against skimmers, who are mostly light vehicles.

But of course, it is not our intention to start a discussion on ork lists here.

Isseyfaran wrote:Like I have mentioned previously, not going to entertain people like you anymore. I have reported your post to the Mod.

Issy, poster Kilkrazy is the Mod and he's already monitoring things. I refer you to the post with the pretty girl in the white dress. *I* pinged the Mod button last night.

Dodgywop wrote:I did ask a question. Which has also been asked by other members as well and you have still yet to answer it.

Still not answered. I'll repeat the question:
Issy, did you play this game on vassal or was it on a table with models?
I'd like to add:
Could you please post pictures of your models?
Who did you play against?
Was this at a game store?
Is it a GW store, there in Singapore?

Brothererekose wrote:

Isseyfaran wrote:Like I have mentioned previously, not going to entertain people like you anymore. I have reported your post to the Mod.

Issy, poster Kilkrazy is the Mod and he's already monitoring things. I refer you to the post with the pretty girl in the white dress. *I* pinged the Mod button last night.

No need for your reminder. I saw kilkrazy's post. And since Dodgy is persistent with his attitude, I reported his post to the Mod once again.

On your question whether this was played on tabletop, I think between my first batrep and this batrep, I must have repeated this 2 or 3 times. I m going to be a dick this time round and not answer it again, since it is the same few people who repeatedly tries to ask the same question over and over again.

As for your other questions & requests, I don't even think I m obliged to answer you or attend to them? Especially given your previous attitude.
So yeah, go ahead and be unhappy with me, but like I have said to you Brotherereokose - multiple times, I didnt ask you to stay. You are the one who has been desperately trying to get my attention - that's pretty thick-skinned of you I find. There are a few people whom I don't welcome, and sadly you are one of them.

Okay, Tau related question here for the group:
Since you've modeled this list as the ideal way that you've found to play Tau why did you avoid the Pathfinders? I don't play Tau, but I thought that the marker lights were like candy and you needed to be handing them out everywhere.

Without Pathfinders did you use marker lights? If so, where were they? Again, I've never played with or against Tau.

I'll ask my question again, Was this game played on Vassal or wasn't it. I'm sorry if I'm being repetitive, but I'm genuinely curious. If it is in real life, I'm also curious what your army looks like as I'm always looking for inspiration and it seems like you have played Tau for a while and collected a reasonably-sized force.

Again, sorry if I'm being annoying, I just want an answer to my question.

MakersHitstheMark wrote:Okay, Tau related question here for the group:
Since you've modeled this list as the ideal way that you've found to play Tau why did you avoid the Pathfinders? I don't play Tau, but I thought that the marker lights were like candy and you needed to be handing them out everywhere.

Without Pathfinders did you use marker lights? If so, where were they? Again, I've never played with or against Tau.

No. Pathfinders are the only place where you should field markerlights, no where else.

The reason I don't use pathfinders is because of them having a low Ld, are static, and more vulnerable to small arms. I have done the math somewhere else, which shows that the benefit of purchasing a squad of 4 pathfinders (cost 48 points) against purchasing another 0.774 fireknife nets you only an additional 0.5 plasma and 0.5 missile hit or so per turn. This is assuming the markerlight tokens are expended for a team of THREE fireknifes.

So the reason I don't really take them for most of my lists is because I find the cons are greater than the pros.

Isseyfaran wrote:

MakersHitstheMark wrote:Okay, Tau related question here for the group:
Since you've modeled this list as the ideal way that you've found to play Tau why did you avoid the Pathfinders? I don't play Tau, but I thought that the marker lights were like candy and you needed to be handing them out everywhere.

Without Pathfinders did you use marker lights? If so, where were they? Again, I've never played with or against Tau.

No. Pathfinders are the only place where you should field markerlights, no where else.

The reason I don't use pathfinders is because of them having a low Ld, are static, and more vulnerable to small arms. I have done the math somewhere else, which shows that the benefit of purchasing a squad of 4 pathfinders (cost 48 points) against purchasing another 0.774 fireknife nets you only an additional 0.5 plasma and 0.5 missile hit or so per turn. This is assuming the markerlight tokens are expended for a team of THREE fireknifes.

So the reason I don't really take them for most of my lists is because I find the cons are greater than the pros.

That matches everything I had heard from other people at my local shop, but few if any of them are actual Tau players. I have a copy of the current Dex for them and my thought on why you might not have fielded them was two fold:
1. Survivability - The ideal situation would be to place them forward, but if anyone has played against Tau they are going to focus on that unit Turn 1 and probably wipe it. Added to the forward placement is the fact that you can't move and shoot them. If they were able to move and still light stuff up that would change the situation significantly I think.
2. Expense - I know that you have to field a transport with them and that is another 60 to 100 points right there (I don't know the exact point cost)

Anyway, thanks for the reply. I was just curious because it seems like that light thing is a neat idea, but can at times be crippling if you load a pathfinder squad up.