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I see no problem with having a monarchy whatsoever. And if the Governor-General keeps the prime minister and his lot in check then so much the better.

If anyone here has actually watched the parliamentary debates in Australia, it is no joke to liken much of the discussions there to kids arguing in the playground. Except the term Mr.Speaker is thrown around a lot more.

They're usually more boring though.

To schoolboy who invited the Queen to Romford, Essex, 2003: “Ah, you’re the one who wrote the letter. So you can write then?”

That link is nice.

How do we get from a nice story about the Queen, to funny stories about Prince Phil to Nazi apologism?

In all seriousness, are we now in a thread that has someone saying "The Nazis had some good points, and I'd prefer them to be in charge to that nice lady from England"?!?!

I mean, I am fairly sure that the Nazis would be less likely to let you voice your opinions than Queen Liz, not more. And I am not sure that they'd be any more in touch with modern Australia than her either.

Wow. Just wow.

Anyway, I think the Queen is great. Sadly, I doubt I'll ever meet her. Though one of my pupils met Prince Charles a few weeks ago,

It's easy to account for the Prince Philip stories; he asked the couple about their honeymoon. It's not that he said anything untoward; it's that he played his role perfectly in this case. If he had only wished them good health, it would have been rather cold and quite out of keeping with his persona. This kind of story is why we rebellious colonials love your royalty so much; same with all of Philip's "gaffes."

True going by his quotes alone you might expect something like "Where's the rest of it?".

rockerbikie wrote:

We are talking WW2. German occupation of Africa was destroyed. They lost a majority of colonial posessions. Have you not considered Hitler's role in the revitlisation of the German economy after the betrayal at Versailles. The Germans were not peaceful but the French took colonialism to a new level. The Germans had Black Soldiers in africa.


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SilverMK2 wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:And now we're onto German colonialism in Africa.

How did we get here?

I'm pretty sure Hitler started it...

The German Empire started it... Most of German territory was taken from them in the Demands of Versailles.

Having poorly paid Askari doing your fighting isn't a tick in the 'good' box you know, nor does it counterbalance systematically eradicated races, a popular German pastime, and it started with Vogelsang and his boss, in 1883, screwing the Bethanie Nama out of land in a manner very similar to the way European settlers the world over have always screwed the indigenous people. Hey, the Germans had Indian soldiers too, so they must have actually been OK!.

Given the choice between respecting an old man who says what he thinks and spent a hefty chunk of his career fighting Fascists, or believing that Hitler was a great guy, I know where I'm turning. Frankly its worth giving the Queen respect just for the amount of work she puts in despite being well past retirement age.

Arbeit, you are aware that Rocker is Dakka's resident Nazi right?

mattyrm wrote: Arbeit, you are aware that Rocker is Dakka's resident Nazi right?

I thought he used the (Rather arbitrary) term White Supremacist?

I think he's admitted to being a Nazi in this thread. That or said something slightly ambiguous like "even if I am a Nazi."

Oh...
Well then that makes sense...

mattyrm wrote: Arbeit, you are aware that Rocker is Dakka's resident Nazi right?

Yup. (I can think of better words for it though.) Can't hurt to point out the epic levels of 'Wrong' coming from him, especially where young and impressionable people might see it.

I could be wrong but I believe in one of the "what political type are you" threads he said he was an Anarcist Nazi...in this thread agitating for republican rule in Austrailia. You'd think he would be happy with a genetically superior monarch of the Saxony-Goethe line.
As a point in his favor, at least rocket isn't the resident Nazi Atlantis guy.

AustonT wrote:... he said he was an Anarcist Nazi...

Now is that Anarchist Nazi, or Antichrist Nazi?

One is very different from, and honestly sounds a way cooler than, the other.

Thats really nice of the Queen. I've seen some funny stuff in my time involving the queen. (Danny Bhoy and comedians meeting the queen for example theres a lot of stories right there.)

Hazardous Harry wrote:

AustonT wrote:... he said he was an Anarcist Nazi...

Now is that Anarchist Nazi, or Antichrist Nazi?

One is very different from, and honestly sounds a way cooler than, the other.

Anarchist Nazi sounds like something from a Right WIng wet dream... But that is for another thread.

But OT I agree with what matty said 3 pages ago about liking the royal family alot more than any politician. And that is coming from a dirty OWS Yank

rockerbikie wrote: I disagree with the halocaust, I very much prefered the Israel Solution that Hitler came up with.

You realize that this was almost certainly a thinly veiled attempt genocide, yes?

To speak obliquely:

"Oh, we're not horribly mistreating Native Americans, we're just relocating them. Sure, there may be some tears along the trail, but not many."

purplefood wrote:

mattyrm wrote: Arbeit, you are aware that Rocker is Dakka's resident Nazi right?

I thought he used the (Rather arbitrary) term White Supremacist?

National Socalist. You have not even asked about my ecomonic policies yet you think I am a Fascist. I disagree with some things Hitler said, I believe that Males and Females are equal for example but yes I am a clearly rascist person.


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AustonT wrote:I could be wrong but I believe in one of the "what political type are you" threads he said he was an Anarcist Nazi...in this thread agitating for republican rule in Austrailia. You'd think he would be happy with a genetically superior monarch of the Saxony-Goethe line.
As a point in his favor, at least rocket isn't the resident Nazi Atlantis guy.

I don't like her partially because her ancestors betrayed the gods. That's just the start of it.


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Fifty wrote:How do we get from a nice story about the Queen, to funny stories about Prince Phil to Nazi apologism?

In all seriousness, are we now in a thread that has someone saying "The Nazis had some good points, and I'd prefer them to be in charge to that nice lady from England"?!?!

I mean, I am fairly sure that the Nazis would be less likely to let you voice your opinions than Queen Liz, not more. And I am not sure that they'd be any more in touch with modern Australia than her either.

Wow. Just wow.

Anyway, I think the Queen is great. Sadly, I doubt I'll ever meet her. Though one of my pupils met Prince Charles a few weeks ago,

I never stated that. That is an assumption. I want a stable system. National Socialism or a republic would meet my demands. We are in touch with modern Australia, we just choose to deny Liberal Social policies.

Oh Dakka.

What's with all the Nazis these days? I can't swing a dead cat in here without reading about how great National Socialism is, how the Waffen SS was the greatest fighting force ever, and that Nazi Atlantis... something something.

Would rather deal with Nazis then people who still think the south should be its own nation....

Dear 17 year old Californian guy with confederate flag on your ford truck...

New plan - for the first time on any forum, anywhere on the internet, I am going to use the ignore function.

rockerbikie wrote:.......................I never stated that. That is an assumption. I want a stable system. National Socialism or a republic would meet my demands. We are in touch with modern Australia, we just choose to deny Liberal Social policies.

I'm curious, demands?

No I don't care to hear them, but I'm pretty sure most Aussies will not take kindly to your demanding anything of them certainly not if the varied sample I have met over the last 20 years is anything to go by.

I would suggest the only thing you are in touch with is yourself (while surrounded by pictures of good old Adolf perhaps?).

I'm pretty sure you are similar to the ingrates I sometimes see in East London who campaigning for the BNP, tied up in a dream world based upon films they idolise, BS history they have been spun and jealousy that immigrant that work harder than them and have the temerity to have more money/better jobs.

It's disppointing to see people still with these rather silly view points.

I'd love for Queen to show up at a wedding. It is a shame Freddie Mercury is dead though. Since that makes it unlikely, a lady with a fancy hat isn't bad either- I am a Warhammer player after all. We do like our hats.

Nazis should be left to rap battles and disposable villians that you don't have to feel bad about (shooting|exploding|sending off a cliff in a panzer|pushing into a spinning propeller). Even if there's a point to be made, the effort is like a warboss with a power claw trying to build a ship in a bottle.

Royals in general I'm neutral on. If the Brits want to spend their energy on them, its their country, more power to them. At least there's history there. Better than getting hung up on some some current political candidate with adoration|vilification.

Johnny-Crass wrote:Would rather deal with Nazis then people who still think the south should be its own nation....

Dear 17 year old Californian guy with confederate flag on your ford truck...

Even worse when they're not even in the US.

Did he just admit to being a racist as well as a Nazi, or is it just my 'morning eyes' not working properly?

ArbeitsSchu wrote:Did he just admit to being a racist as well as a Nazi, or is it just my 'morning eyes' not working properly?

Nope, your morning eyes are working just fine. It's kind of ambiguously spelt though, I can't decide if it's a misspelling of "racist" or a misspelling of "fascist"

Johnny-Crass wrote:Would rather deal with Nazis then people who still think the south should be its own nation....

Dear 17 year old Californian guy with confederate flag on your ford truck...

Erm, Dear Georgia with the Confederate National Flag as thier state flag? People who think the South will rise again are fething idiots, people who are say Sons of the Confederacy and are proud of thier families heritage have every right to celebrate thier heritage. These people aren't inherently racist, my friend in Savannah moved across the street from an older gentlemen who totally seemed like "that guy": confederate battle flag hung from his front porch, stereotypical accent, guns everywhere. Until you realized that the dude didn't just have a token black friend ALL of his friends were black. He was the least racist dude I think I've ever met, and let me tell you seeing a white dude and 3 or 4 black dudes drinking beer and hanging out on a porch underneath a flag so often associated with white supremacy and race hate was eerie. Mostly you can take symbols like that at face value, sometimes you can't. I ran into a picture of an Indian guy at an airport where probably 50 people argued about how sick this Nazi Indian was because he was wearing a pretty simple swastika shirt. Not a single person pointed out that in his country the swastika is a symbol of faith as common if not more common than the cross.
I'm pretty sure that it's early and I have digressed

ArbeitsSchu wrote:Did he just admit to being a racist as well as a Nazi, or is it just my 'morning eyes' not working properly?

that could have been sarcasm, it certainly looks like it.

Have you ever seen the Queen lose her temper? Its rare, but it happens. I think there should be a new meme, like the JesusPunch one, but involving her Maj laying about her with her sceptre.

Then we could post it at Nazi simpletons...

The other thing about the Queen is she never carries money. You better hope that there's a free bar available or shes gunna fething kick off, you can be sure of that!

She shouldn't have to carry money. If it has her face on it, then she should be allowed to take it and spend it.

Can she use it as ID in Tesco though? They've been known to age-check octogenarians before now.