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Pretty sure the family is value for money... Better than having a president or similar (no expensive elections and, gods forbid, better than letting an individual politician have more power), good for tourism and most importantly very experienced at what they do. The Queen has been Head of State longer than most politicians have been alive and she's been brought up to be Head of State.
She's very aware of her various realms, how people feel etc and she's in a position where she can let whoever's the elected head of government know.
Most importantly, she actually cares. She's not trying to score political points, to get re-elected. Being Head of State is her life.
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I suppose the surprise can be spoiled, but still, nobody is paying for the surprise.
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rockerbikie wrote:Last visit we paid $20 000 000. Technically under the System, the Queen actually has authority over my Government, she could get a Government sacked theoretically until she gets what she desires. Also, shouldn't Australians have rights to have our own head of State in our own Country. The point is the system is flawed and we would like to move to a more stable form of government where we have our own Head of State and we don't have to be treated like colonial slaves anymore.
I'm struggling to think of the last time that the Queen or indeed the UK exercised any power over Australia...
In 1975 the Governor-General dissolved the government of Gough Whitlam. It was a pretty big deal at the time.
It probably couldn't happen again, though. I think the Aussies would simply ignore it.
She might live in a 'Council House', but she still can't get them to make the damn building safe.
And I would rather Philip and his 'say what you actually think' mindset than any of the lying two-faced toady tossers we 'vote' for. At least he gives straight answers.
"There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious—makes you so sick at heart—that you can't take part. You can't even passively take part. And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all" Mario Savio
Know i understand why the Brits Keep the Royalty. They are their Kardashions. Ditzy fools that have not place but you keep the around because no one has the guts to tell them they arent important, and its funny to see them do stupid stuff.
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I was raised mildly republican (most irish people are- it bleeds in from the history lessons in school where it's all "And then there were plantations and they TOOK ARRR LAAAAND!") so I used to be a bit snotty about the Queen.
As I've grown up, I've got a bit more respect for her, and I think that on the whole, the Royals do a good job of representing Great Britain. I mean, you may bitch about them getting money and so on, but they don't really get a choice in that any more than anyone else. And I think the Queen does a good job as a diplomat. In her last visit to Ireland she addressed the crowd as gaeilge, which was a pretty huge deal for a lot of people. There was almost a collective sigh of relief over it - it really did help dissipate some of the lingering tension. So for that alone, I think she's alright.
I remember reading somewhere that one thing Prince Philip doesn't get enough credit for is his dry sense of humour - apparently, a lot of what are reported as 'gaffes' are him playing up to his public image and just generally 'taking the piss' in true British fashion. That's pretty evident in some of the quotes, particularly the Cate Blanchett one.
Also, he saw active service in WWII. The guy's a titan. He still looks like he could kick my arse, and he's older than my nana.
Actually barring the few worst ones(Which are fairly funny) he is pretty hilarious...
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rockerbikie wrote: Also, shouldn't Australians have rights to have our own head of State in our own Country.
You do! Heartfelt congratulations! Not only that, but you get to have probably the most distinguished head of state currently alive, as well as a living, breathing reminder of your country's roots and the bond of brotherhood between our nations.
Failing that, you're well within your rights to have a referendum and become a republic should you wish. We're certainly not stopping you.
The point is the system is flawed and we would like to move to a more stable form of government where we have our own Head of State and we don't have to be treated like colonial slaves anymore.
Wait...which one are you again? Aren't you the fascist/nazi bloke? Would you prefer a national socialist dictatorship to the current set-up, or something? Australia is one of the most stable and prosperous nations in the world. It looks like the Westminster System and constitutional monarchy has treated you guys pretty well from where I'm sitting. Plus, you've got the weather.
7. "How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to pass the test?" Asked of a Scottish driving instructor in 1995.
Clearly they know their realms. Clearly. This doesn't stop them using our castles as personal villas of course, when they could be used for tourism. The hypocrites.
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7. "How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to pass the test?" Asked of a Scottish driving instructor in 1995.
Clearly they know their realms. Clearly. This doesn't stop them using our castles as personal villas of course, when they could be used for tourism. The hypocrites.
They are not owned by the Scottish people, they are owned by the crown. That is, unless, you're opposed to the idea of ineritance, which is another conversation entirely.
And you don't drink? You still eat deep-fried pizzas though, yeah? Please don't shatter my illusions.
Manchu wrote:That explains why you don't think Philip's funny.
I don't think discriminatory comments are quite funny.
You're right of course. The archaic dry wit of a nonagenarion is serious business, no satire value whatsoever. I think you'd be very at home in the States, incidentally.
Manchu wrote:That explains why you don't think Philip's funny.
I don't think discriminatory comments are quite funny.
You're right of course. The archaic dry wit of a nonagenarion is serious business, no satire value whatsoever. I think you'd be very at home in the States, incidentally.
One-sided, discrimination-based satire isn't funny and is a problem in the UK. This isn't something like a funny comedian.
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