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AustonT wrote:I wouldn't say "no" Australian has EVER had Foster's.

I would. They might have been wearing a hat with corks on it and riding a kangaroo, but if they drank a Fosters then they're not Australian.

Wikipedia on Outback Steakhouse wrote: steaks are prepared on a griddle using butter as a heat transfer medium

sebster wrote:

AustonT wrote:I wouldn't say "no" Australian has EVER had Foster's.

I would. They might have been wearing a hat with corks on it and riding a kangaroo, but if they drank a Fosters then they're not Australian.

Wikipedia on Outback Steakhouse wrote: steaks are prepared on a griddle using butter as a heat transfer medium

Ha! That sums it up perfectly!

Well moving on then. I WAS aware that Fosters owns VB and Corona. I wad also aware that some sort of bootleg restriction has meant VB is sold in ONE liquor store in San Fransico or some nonsense. Armed with the knowledge of VBs Mexican connection I saw a newly marketed Mexican beer called Victoria. Thinking, "Finally, Miller has decided to goad those OZ bastards into brewing VB in Mexico for my enjoyment!" I was wrong, that beer was an offense to nearly all of my senses at once. Now I am left hoping Fosters in the green oil can is any good, if it's not I may travel to OZ to disappear into the bush; reappearing to raid beer convoys.

Just walk away.


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You could be poisioned by one of those goddamned frogs that have spread from the coast like a bibical plague.

Crown Lager is the best Lager I had in Oz, VB is nowhere near it!

mattyrm wrote:Crown Lager is the best Lager I had in Oz, VB is nowhere near it!

That's because you are a stark raving monarchist Matty.

Alexzandvar wrote:I am tired of hearing "We should go back the times of our fore fathers", "We need to do it exactly as the founders planned it", "We need to end this socialism and get back to good old George Washington Capitalism".

1. Sorry everyone but while these men were intelligent and brave, this does not make there 300+ year old opinions relevant in today's age.

2. An extension on this, taking verses from the Old Testament a more than 2,000 year old book is not a good idea, granted that perhaps, things may have changed in the past couple thousand years. ( Mostly turned towards using bible against gay rights)

3. Not all the founding fathers were all that together in the head, not stupid mind you, but somewhat crazy. Thomas Jefferson was very racist and very hard to deal with at times.

4. They did not take pride in there work all the time, George Washington only became president because he had to.

5. Some of the founding fathers were atheist! *GASP*, they strongly believed in the separation of church and state, and the right for men to not have religion hang over there lives like some requirement or standard.

I believe they're refering to the romantic ideal or mythos surrounding the Founding Fathers. Not what the Founding Fathers actually were. I mean George Washington was a plantation owner with all the odious associations that come with that and was interested in acquiring land in the Great Lakes before the war to make himself a landed gentleman; so he advocated ethnic cleansing, if not genocide of the Indians living there. Both of which could be justified by the 'enlightenment' philosophy they followed. Property of the individual was held to be sacred; including slaves. Whilst it was an inevitable part of the civilizing process of refinement that the barbarians give way to the more advanced and civilised society.

By todays standards the man wasn't very nice.

Plus, the winners get to write history. If George the Third had won, then Washington would have had a traitors death, which would have involved being hung, drawn and quartered in London; along with the rest of the Founding Fathers. Had that happened he would have gone down in infamy as a fool who tried to beat the commercial might of the British Empire; much like how the Jacobite leader Bonnie Prince Charlie is viewed.

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poda_t wrote:There are never any public refferenda, now public votes on issues, nothing.

Umm, yes there are. I mean your statement there is just in direct contrast to reality.

Come to my neck of the woods. Only British Columbia and Quebec seem to have any refferenda, BC because they are progressive, Quebec because they can't stop whining about seceding from canada (I wish they would just bloody damn do it so they would stop stealing money from the rest of canada)

It's like your own version of Texas!