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2012/05/24 00:06:16
Subject: People need to stop treating the "Found Fathers" like gods.
Just a couple months ago I was lamenting to my friend who works at an arcade restaurant about how the overall quality and variety of arcade games has diminished since our youth. Along with the actual arcades. When I took my wife home to Montana we had to do some shopping...you know because I have a wife. And at every mall from my childhood I would point to hat stores, shoe stores, and similar useless vendors and say, "that used to be an arcade." What happened America? What happened.
Avatar 720 wrote: You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
2012/05/24 00:39:05
Subject: People need to stop treating the "Found Fathers" like gods.
I remember when the arcade was king. It was a fun time. Street Fighter 2, Mortal Kombat II, House of the Dead, Lethal Enforcers, Starblade, T-Mek, Ninja Turtles, X-Men, Aliens vs. Predator, etc. etc.
The founding fathers would be disgusted if they knew the sorry state of arcade games today.
I remember x-men, battle toads, spiderman, turtles, street fighter, MK, children of the atom, x-men vs. SF, house of the dead, skeeball, primal rage and others. Any I could buy on consoles, I did. Everything else I downloaded on MAME. Bring em back, I'll buy em. No arcades makes me sad. And I agree-Jefferson would be pissed at the lack of arcades these days. Washington cheated at skeeball anyway. Guy had no honor-I hear he pantsed Cornwallace at a diplomatic meeting and made fun of all British...members.
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2012/05/24 02:00:31
Subject: People need to stop treating the "Found Fathers" like gods.
AustonT wrote:I heard Glenn Beck give a diatribe about how he no longer supports Teddy R because he "discorvered" Teddy's progressive policies. I feel like when he started and ran under the "Progressive Party" ticket that should have been a clue a 7 year old would pick up on. He still spouts about how great Abe Lincoln was, I wonder when he'll "discover" that Lincoln was an early Marxist and a Progressive too. People believe what they want to believe, and the thoughts, motivations, and acts of the Founding Fathers were very different from ours, and have to be seen through an anachronistic lens. Making sweeping generalizations like your quote are as untrue as saying that what's going on now is EXACTLY what the Founding Fathers intended; you don't know either way.
I suspect Beck dropped things like 'discovering' Roosevelt's progressive politics into his rants because they give so much joy to the liberals watching his show, which reportedly make up a large portion of his audience.
I mean, we all know Beck is a complete tool, but behind him there's a large production staff who'd look over his scripts, fact check and do all that stuff. The idea that something like your story above would sneak through without anyone saying 'uh, Glenn, this makes you look really stupid' is impossible, so the only alternative is to believe it's put in there quite deliberately.
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poda_t wrote:There are never any public refferenda, now public votes on issues, nothing.
Umm, yes there are. I mean your statement there is just in direct contrast to reality.
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Ahtman wrote:There is a difference between holding something in high regard and transforming it into some monolithic deity worship.
There were also people then that didn't do that much as well as people complaining that people used to get more done in the past. There are also people alive today that get things done and do things to put an end to what they see as the BS of our time.
Yes, exactly. Well said.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
2012/05/24 03:12:29
Subject: People need to stop treating the "Found Fathers" like gods.
poda_t wrote:There are never any public refferenda, now public votes on issues, nothing.
Umm, yes there are. I mean your statement there is just in direct contrast to reality.
Come to my neck of the woods. Only British Columbia and Quebec seem to have any refferenda, BC because they are progressive, Quebec because they can't stop whining about seceding from canada (I wish they would just bloody damn do it so they would stop stealing money from the rest of canada)
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2012/05/24 05:25:22
Subject: People need to stop treating the "Found Fathers" like gods.
poda_t wrote:Come to my neck of the woods. Only British Columbia and Quebec seem to have any refferenda, BC because they are progressive, Quebec because they can't stop whining about seceding from canada (I wish they would just bloody damn do it so they would stop stealing money from the rest of canada)
Why would I come to your neck of the woods to know your claim wasn't true? To add your previous sentence in for context;
"What really gets me though, is that people insist on calling the joke we have for an electoral system (Doesn't matter where in the world you are) "democracy", because, as a point of fact, you vote only once every few years on which crook(s) you want to rob/ruin you. There are never any public refferenda, now public votes on issues, nothing."
You said it doesn't matter where you are in the world, there's no democracy. And to establish this you said there were never any public referendums. That plainly is not true.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
2012/05/24 05:43:58
Subject: Re:People need to stop treating the "Found Fathers" like gods.
azazel the cat wrote:I kinda wish y'all would stop calling them the "founding fathers" and instead start referring to them as "The Great Old Ones"
Thats good. I like that.
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2012/05/24 14:15:21
Subject: Re:People need to stop treating the "Found Fathers" like gods.
azazel the cat wrote:I kinda wish y'all would stop calling them the "founding fathers" and instead start referring to them as "The Great Old Ones"
Only if you rename your houses of government the House of Syrup and the House of Pancakes, and the Prime minister shall become the Griddlemaster General.
Avatar 720 wrote: You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
2012/05/24 14:23:13
Subject: People need to stop treating the "Found Fathers" like gods.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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2012/05/24 14:27:28
Subject: People need to stop treating the "Found Fathers" like gods.
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
2012/05/24 14:33:02
Subject: People need to stop treating the "Found Fathers" like gods.
So, do you think the fact that the US has the Founding Fathers is a good thing or not? Given that people try and second-guess what they actually meant, their motivations etc.
Looking in from a country that has effectively ambled along into its current position it seems that concerning yourselves with the Founding Fathers makes things... less flexible.
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Lux_Lucis wrote:So, do you think the fact that the US has the Founding Fathers is a good thing or not? Given that people try and second-guess what they actually meant, their motivations etc.
Looking in from a country that has effectively ambled along into its current position it seems that concerning yourselves with the Founding Fathers makes things... less flexible.
It is a double edged power axe. On one hand we can look back and have a rudder that can be used to guide our noble nation. On the other, these are all men who have been dead a long time who lived in a world so different to ours as to be unrecognizable to today.
The big issue is that people project what they want out of them using their own filters. With what has been written, and what they indeed wrote, it is easy to cherry pick a quote to support your argument.
"During the course of administration, and in order to disturb it, the number and quality of video game arcades has been drastically reduced. These abuses of an institution so important to freedom and science are deeply to be regretted, inasmuch as they tend to lessen its usefulness and to sap its safety." - Thomas Jefferson
I think Thomas Jefferson's stance on arcades is pretty clear, actually. I agree that Great Old Ones is a way cooler title than Founding Fathers as well.
AustonT wrote:Only if you rename your houses of government the House of Syrup and the House of Pancakes, and the Prime minister shall become the Griddlemaster General.
When I was in the US it took a silly amount of time to figure out what you guys meant when you kept talking about griddles. Silly Americans, call things by their names please.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
2012/05/25 05:30:28
Subject: Re:People need to stop treating the "Found Fathers" like gods.
AustonT wrote:Only if you rename your houses of government the House of Syrup and the House of Pancakes, and the Prime minister shall become the Griddlemaster General.
When I was in the US it took a silly amount of time to figure out what you guys meant when you kept talking about griddles. Silly Americans, call things by their names please.
This is a griddle...as far as I know it doesn't have another name. They are commonly used by restaurants...there are smaller versions for home use, which are next to useless. I'll add a second img anyway. Anyway, what would you call that in OZ?
Avatar 720 wrote: You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
2012/05/25 05:52:15
Subject: People need to stop treating the "Found Fathers" like gods.
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
2012/05/25 06:14:44
Subject: Re:People need to stop treating the "Found Fathers" like gods.
AustonT wrote:Only if you rename your houses of government the House of Syrup and the House of Pancakes, and the Prime minister shall become the Griddlemaster General.
When I was in the US it took a silly amount of time to figure out what you guys meant when you kept talking about griddles. Silly Americans, call things by their names please.
This is a griddle...as far as I know it doesn't have another name. They are commonly used by restaurants...there are smaller versions for home use, which are next to useless. I'll add a second img anyway. Anyway, what would you call that in OZ?
If it's outside we call it a barbeque, if its inside and either next to or on top of the oven we call it a hotplate, as God intended.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
2012/05/25 06:23:11
Subject: People need to stop treating the "Found Fathers" like gods.
But a barbeque is a heat source with a grill type thingy holding the cooked item above it, a griddle is a heated flat surface. Its like saying an oven is the same as a stove.
2012/05/25 06:29:15
Subject: People need to stop treating the "Found Fathers" like gods.
Bromsy wrote:But a barbeque is a heat source with a grill type thingy holding the cooked item above it, a griddle is a heated flat surface. Its like saying an oven is the same as a stove.
Or that a stove outside is a barbeque.
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Avatar 720 wrote: You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
2012/05/25 06:38:19
Subject: Re:People need to stop treating the "Found Fathers" like gods.
Bromsy wrote:But a barbeque is a heat source with a grill type thingy holding the cooked item above it, a griddle is a heated flat surface. Its like saying an oven is the same as a stove.
Or that a stove outside is a barbeque.
How to speak Austrailian.
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Funnily enough, no-one in Australia has ever drunk a can of Fosters. Basically it got marketed as the Australian beer to overseas markets because they couldn't sell any of the stuff here. And kangaroos make terrible girlfriends, because they never put out, the frigid bitches.
Oh, and all those Outback Steakhouses you have over there are completely silly. There's no such thing as steakhouses in Australia. We eat plenty of steak but we just serve it in restaurants and pubs alongside other food. The only thing we have that's a steakhouse is this franchise that started about ten years ago and hasn't ever done very well called 'Lonestar Steakhouse' which is Texas themed.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
2012/05/28 08:42:41
Subject: People need to stop treating the "Found Fathers" like gods.
I wouldn't say "no" Australian has EVER had Foster's. I have it on good authority that once upon a time it was quite popular in the OZ. Kind of like Rainier here in the states the 80's were not kind. I was reminded of Rainier's once great status by of all god forsaken things the Twilight movies. I glimpsed that classic R on Chief Swans table and recalled my misspent youth. I'm not surprised it's unpopular Fosters tastes like ass, and if I want a gakky Lager I don't have to pay for Fosters. I figured most people would be aware of the How to Speak Austrailian ad campaign though.
I have been to Outback exactly twice. I'm not surprised it doesn't originate in Rooland, few restaurants actually bear any ties to thier theme. Lone Star is from Miami, the Texas Roadhouse is from Illinois. But as this is how our conversation got here; I found this delectable:
Wikipedia on Outback Steakhouse wrote: steaks are prepared on a griddle using butter as a heat transfer medium
Avatar 720 wrote: You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
2012/05/28 12:43:10
Subject: People need to stop treating the "Found Fathers" like gods.
Bromsy wrote:But a barbeque is a heat source with a grill type thingy holding the cooked item above it, a griddle is a heated flat surface. Its like saying an oven is the same as a stove.
Or that a stove outside is a barbeque.
How to speak Austrailian.
Barbie
Girlfriend:
Beer:
Funnily enough, no-one in Australia has ever drunk a can of Fosters. Basically it got marketed as the Australian beer to overseas markets because they couldn't sell any of the stuff here. And kangaroos make terrible girlfriends, because they never put out, the frigid bitches.
Oh, and all those Outback Steakhouses you have over there are completely silly. There's no such thing as steakhouses in Australia. We eat plenty of steak but we just serve it in restaurants and pubs alongside other food. The only thing we have that's a steakhouse is this franchise that started about ten years ago and hasn't ever done very well called 'Lonestar Steakhouse' which is Texas themed.
Man, you just destroyed a long held and cherished illusion. For years I had fantasies of going to Australia, going to a real Aussie steakhouse and drinking lager from a gallon can. I guess when I finally get there, Paul Hogan probably wont grill shrimp for me either. I suppose I will have to content myself with the rich culture, great mutton, and pretty women named Shelia.
treadhead1944 wrote:Man, you just destroyed a long held and cherished illusion. For years I had fantasies of going to Australia, going to a real Aussie steakhouse and drinking lager from a gallon can. I guess when I finally get there, Paul Hogan probably wont grill shrimp for me either. I suppose I will have to content myself with the rich culture, great mutton, and pretty women named Shelia.
Nah, some gigantic spider or ultra-venomous snake or insect will kill you the second you set your foot of the plane!
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2012/05/28 13:51:17
Subject: People need to stop treating the "Found Fathers" like gods.
treadhead1944 wrote:Man, you just destroyed a long held and cherished illusion. For years I had fantasies of going to Australia, going to a real Aussie steakhouse and drinking lager from a gallon can. I guess when I finally get there, Paul Hogan probably wont grill shrimp for me either. I suppose I will have to content myself with the rich culture, great mutton, and pretty women named Shelia.
Nah, some gigantic spider or ultra-venomous snake or insect will kill you the second you set your foot of the plane!
I have a hat with strings and corks, will that help?
