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protonhunter wrote:If they release rules for the units in the new starter set would it stand to reason that those will be the new stats that will be in the new codex? Like if they say the cultist will be X points with Y weopon skill would it be likely that that would be their respective point value and weopon skill in the upcoming CSM codex?

I would assume. It would be foolish for them to do otherwise.

While the stats should be the same

If the box set is based on introductory scenarios would they bother giving a points cost at all ?

That way there would be even more reason for folk to buy the new 'dex as well

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:While the stats should be the same

If the box set is based on introductory scenarios would they bother giving a points cost at all ?

That way there would be even more reason for folk to buy the new 'dex as well

I would guess they are included to "introduce" people to the concept of point costs in the first place, and to the fact that while different models vary immensely in their capabilities, stronger models are usually associated with higher point costs.

That way, the "idea" of point costs will be familiar to people who move from the starter on to a Codex.

Kirasu wrote:I hope there is no mini rulebook.. I miss the days of 3rd edition where I had to lug around a big rulebook + codex + white dwarfs + Index astartes + chapter approved + supplements!

Kept my arms in shape.

Nothing will stop you from lugging around the large rulebook even if there is a small rulebook. Many of us are hoping for a mini-rulebook because of the we do not want to lug around the big one.

I think there was a touch of sarcasm in Kirasu's post.

Zweischneid wrote:

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:While the stats should be the same

If the box set is based on introductory scenarios would they bother giving a points cost at all ?

That way there would be even more reason for folk to buy the new 'dex as well

I would guess they are included to "introduce" people to the concept of point costs in the first place, and to the fact that while different models vary immensely in their capabilities, stronger models are usually associated with higher point costs.

That way, the "idea" of point costs will be familiar to people who move from the starter on to a Codex.

fair point,

I hadn't thought of that aspect of it

H.B.M.C. wrote:

MightyGodzilla wrote:It would badass if they made mini rulebook for your Kindle, Ipad, Android Tablet. They'd make an f'ing killing on that sale.

One out of three ain't bad.

No wait yes it is...

GW Corporate is much like a Space Marine haven't you heard. The Needus Moremoniatus is a super human gland that will be identified by mortal sciences in about a hundred years. Basically it detects capitol. The Needus Moremoniatus will let GW know that selling their digital wares to Kindle and Android markets will make them easy money. It's message will be received, just you wait.

Scottywan82 wrote:Swear to God, I'm not. Having some availability doesn't preclude increased availability in future. It just means limited right now. Limited is better than none. Limited is not perfect. Eventually it may not be limited.

Limited right now when the capability is there to make it available to everyone is still daft, though.

I will most likely invest in the starter, and agree with earlier posts suggesting a ipad/kindle/android version of the rulebook, would make for much cleaner, quicker referencing

TommieD5 wrote:I will most likely invest in the starter, and agree with earlier posts suggesting a ipad/kindle/android version of the rulebook, would make for much cleaner, quicker referencing

Only if it weren't $50 and if it were searchable. Now THAT would be awesome.

The current digital releases are searchable, aren't they?

We've heard about Gold, Silver, Bronze editions. What we haven't heard about is Price and Content (regarding which versions get the rule book). I think it's too much to hope that the "bronze" editions cost half as much and still contain all of the fixins.

So do you guys want a half priced "bronze" or a discounted bronze with all the extra items (rule book, dice, templates), and what do you think GW will actually do?

winnertakesall wrote:Judging by BoW certainty about the new starter set, looks like Chaos is definitely in for a new codex, and several new units. Yay!

http://www.beastsofwar.com/warhammer-40k/dark-vengeance-new-details/

Posted in the CSM rumer thread thought I'd bring it here too.

Is this starter kit supposed to be plastic figs or that finestuff?

Pretty sure it is plastic. However the Chaplain people are thinking might be Fine Cast since it is limited edition or something.

Grot 6 wrote:Is this starter kit supposed to be plastic figs or that finestuff?

Considering literally every starter set going back to the early 90s has been made of plastic?

No, it's made entirely out of your mother's famous meatloaf, and you need to use the contents within 7 days of opening the box or else all the models go bad. It's part of GW's new strategy to get people buying the starter set over and over again for constant cashflow, and will propel GW to the Fortune 500. Thank your mom and her meatloaf.

I already 'thanked' her, so you don't have to.

Yeah, it's going to be plastic simply because of the savings for how many units they will be producing.

I haven't bought the 6th edition rule book yet, (Don't hit me!) because I am waiting for the starter set. I have enough files, clippers, and green stuff to convert the chaos army to my side! I really hope the cultists arent overdone with chaosey stuff, like tentacles.

I'm really hoping they make the DA side neutral enough to be able to convert them easily into Chaos. I'll probably split the box with a vanilla SM player anyway but if I really wanted to I'd like the option to make the entire box Chaos.

protonhunter wrote:I'm really hoping they make the DA side neutral enough to be able to convert them easily into Chaos. I'll probably split the box with a vanilla SM player anyway but if I really wanted to I'd like the option to make the entire box Chaos.

Well you're in luck since Dark Angels are already all filthy traitors you don't even have to convert

Anyways, I personally hope the starter set models are mostly blank, I'd like to have real marines not a bunch of robed whackos.

Hearing the rumors of a new chaos model between terminator and dread has ensured that I'm buying the set whether or not it tainted by an infestation of dark angels.

carabine wrote:

protonhunter wrote:I'm really hoping they make the DA side neutral enough to be able to convert them easily into Chaos. I'll probably split the box with a vanilla SM player anyway but if I really wanted to I'd like the option to make the entire box Chaos.

Well you're in luck since Dark Angels are already all filthy traitors you don't even have to convert

Anyways, I personally hope the starter set models are mostly blank, I'd like to have real marines not a bunch of robed whackos.

Hearing the rumors of a new chaos model between terminator and dread has ensured that I'm buying the set whether or not it tainted by an infestation of dark angels.

Now that wasn't very nice...

Just looking forward to seeing some pics, although at this point I am still not sure if I will be buying.

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Just looking forward to seeing some pics, although at this point I am still not sure if I will be buying.

I play Chaos and Marines, and one of my 40k buddies is a Dark Angels player. For me it's more like whether I'll be buying one or two I'm really confident in what GW can do with plastic these days, especially given Isle of Blood and Space Hulk.

I'm in the same boat. I know I'll be at least buying 1. maybe even 2-3 depending on the price.

No need for two of these threads...

Please see this one:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/468490.page

for the continuing discussion.

Thanks!