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 Rimmy wrote:

 Vid wrote:
Awesome pose with the trygon good job!

As for everyone else; Warhammer 40k is a hobby first, then a game.

Someone needs to remind Games Workshop of that.

now now

 AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:

 Rimmy wrote:

 Vid wrote:
Awesome pose with the trygon good job!

As for everyone else; Warhammer 40k is a hobby first, then a game.

Someone needs to remind Games Workshop of that.

now now

sorry, I had good times working there, but the company is wretched. they make nice looking models I won't fault them there. but they need to be reminded who they work for.

 Rimmy wrote:

 AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:

 Rimmy wrote:

 Vid wrote:
Awesome pose with the trygon good job!

As for everyone else; Warhammer 40k is a hobby first, then a game.

Someone needs to remind Games Workshop of that.

now now

sorry, I had good times working there, but the company is wretched. they make nice looking models I won't fault them there. but they need to be reminded who they work for.

In fairness they work for themselves. They are a business, and they are in the business of making money. Principals are all very well but they don't rake in the cash these days.

We are the hobbyists, we should be the ones putting the hobby before the game. They only need to produce models and rules for us to play. Should we chose not to like their system or ethics we move onto the next system from another company its what we do.

For GW it isnt personal, its business.

 AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:


In fairness they work for themselves. They are a business, and they are in the business of making money. Principals are all very well but they don't rake in the cash these days.

We are the hobbyists, we should be the ones putting the hobby before the game. They only need to produce models and rules for us to play. Should we chose not to like their system or ethics we move onto the next system from another company its what we do.

For GW it isnt personal, its business.

Every business is in business to please its customers. As has always been the case, those that don't and forget, either die or take a HUGE loss.

I agree that we as a community drive the hobby, but we also have the power to drive the company if we try hard enough. there IS power in numbers. We stop buying, they will be forced to move.

I disagree on them making the rules. House rules work fine for me and mine. Some of them are just ridiculous, others are great. but ultimately even the game is a hobby too.

 Rimmy wrote:

 AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:


In fairness they work for themselves. They are a business, and they are in the business of making money. Principals are all very well but they don't rake in the cash these days.

We are the hobbyists, we should be the ones putting the hobby before the game. They only need to produce models and rules for us to play. Should we chose not to like their system or ethics we move onto the next system from another company its what we do.

For GW it isnt personal, its business.

Every business is in business to please its customers. As has always been the case, those that don't and forget, either die or take a HUGE loss.

I agree that we as a community drive the hobby, but we also have the power to drive the company if we try hard enough. there IS power in numbers. We stop buying, they will be forced to move.

I disagree on them making the rules. House rules work fine for me and mine. Some of them are just ridiculous, others are great. but ultimately even the game is a hobby too.

sorry, but there is no way you can effect a change, because the hobby is aimed at the young by enticing them with bright and shiney miniatures. sure the mainstay of us are veterans, but in the long term, there will always be more kids, that see the hobby as something new and shiney. while there are still kids, you won't make a dint on their profits.

anywho... I think out discussion has gone on long enough as we are in danger of threadjacking.

yea, this is definitely Modeling for Advantage, theres a difference in making a small change to make it more dynamic to straight chopping, from the off-set side by side poses, 1-2 full inches of height on a model that was intended to be a big mofo on the field PURELY just to gain cover saves and dont even attempt to deny it, you even said it yourself in the original post pretty much outright as a few people have already pointed out. They're designed and balanced to have the model they have hence the 6 wounds...they're SUPPOSED to be shot at a lot and take it, im not entirely sure but dont they have regeneration as well?

^Thanks for reviving the thread....

Anyway, we already discussed MFA wayyy too much here. I think we have hit a general consensus of "Casual, sure that looks awesome! Tourny or GT....maybe not". I personally love the model with a burning passion (okay bit much) and would love to see it on the field. Adds a nice contrast to a usually pretty static Nid force (which, they should be the least static)

in my opinion the modeling is actually creative and spices up some of the repetitiveness of the nids, and its not cutting corners on the model itself. i do like the dynamic position and it adds more realism. whether or not it gives the model 1 OR 2 cover saves doesn't really matter, warhammer 40,000 is a game, and we should treat it as such.

To the Eye of Terror with modelling for advantage! This Trygon looks like the ultimate badass! Really cool work, I may just have to steal the idea for my Trygon.....

Well done.

I may cite this thread if I ever write a thesis on why TLOS is foolish.

Very nice work, kudos on the movement feel you gave the model with such "little" work, so to say.

That being said, I think the sensible thing of any opponent to say when facing this trygon would be "We're not using that model's current position for the purpose of determining LOS, right?" before the battle even began. You know... get that issue cleared out to begin with.

Communication - it works!

This model brings some much needed variation to the Tyranid forces. So few poses, so many models, it really does shake it up. Kudos to you good sir, for your model looks fantastic. And honestly, it's really not worth getting too butthurt about a 5+ cover save...Tournament level, maybe, but in casual, definitely not.

Plus, now MCs get cover saves from area terrain. It's pretty easy to get them now.

I like it. It's different to look at, rather than the same old crap, ya know?

Now as to whether or not it's modeled for advantage, well, I'll just discuss that with my opponent before I play him. Maybe I'd magnetize it somehow for versatile modeling, if that's possible...