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it will now get a 5+ save from gants..

It would still have gotten one in the picture before the change.

Yup, and tbh the original pose kinda sucks.

so... mathematically speaking... for a trygon to get a cover save from gants he would have to be just over 4" tall... for someone on equal ground..

nice conversion. I think it does make it look a little smarter (^_^)

I made this last year for a friend, this reminded me of yours.

I just removed a single segment and called it quits - this looks much more indepth!

if you want to see more of it.

Looks good though.

I don't care if it's MFA. The Rule of Cool is in effect:



And that's cool.


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 Carnage43 wrote:
Pretty much textbook modelling for advantage. It's like modelling snipers lying down, or the "Crouching-fex".

Snipers should be modeled laying down. That's the world I want to live in.

I Agree - why should we have to model our models to conform to game standards?

If they really want to make a case out of it, just lift the model up and pretend it isn't modelled differently.

I once had someone claim that my tanks (whic basically don't stay together because the body isn't glued together) were modelled for advantage because they fell apart when they blew up. I hated that guy. He was TFG to me.

 Carnage43 wrote:
Pretty much textbook modelling for advantage. It's like modelling snipers lying down, or the "Crouching-fex".

With the Trygon I would not care at all. The thing has shooting attacks and by making it harder to hit you make it easier to hide from. It also looks cool. The best mode I have seen on one of them had the parts scattered over three different bases with the back two not counting to make it look like it was still half in the ground with a huge tail.

Sick figure, awesome flame war

I blame this lawless, permissive society we live in, it breeds imagination and well friends that sorta thing needs to be stamped out.

Firstly Excellent looking conversion!!! Kudos!! The basic pose is HORRIBLE for what the model represents!!!

Lastly this argument is why true line of sight blows for people who like to play and model dynamically

Honestly what typical terrain on a board will give a cover save short of a large building. Its not like he modeled it where he could hide completely behind a rhino. One of the best nid models i have seen and would play against it in a heartbeat.

I took his original post about standing up waiting to be hit in the face as a joke/sarcasm. In fact I thought that was obvious with his "slack jawed" comment and poking fun at the Trygon for basically being a slow.

I personally think it looks awesome and makes sense. My Guard would still focus fire that SOB down .

This is a great example of where I think that "true line of sight" is taking away from the customization of the models.

I would never tell someone they couldn't use this model. its fantastic.

the whole MFA thing to me, has always been bunk. I get it, I just disagree with it.

Nice repose. very nice.

I love the way this came out and I would have no issues playing against this in any non-competitive, or even a league, setting. That being said, rule of cool or not, this really does skirt MFA and I would have an issue in a tournament, or especially in a GT

 Battlesong wrote:
I love the way this came out and I would have no issues playing against this in any non-competitive, or even a league, setting. That being said, rule of cool or not, this really does skirt MFA and I would have an issue in a tournament, or especially in a GT

so the mixed signal here is, "great miniature I love it but don't you dare put it on the battlefield?"

I would have no problem playing against this (looks awesome!). As has been stated previously, what you lose in height, you gain in length, making it much more difficult for this model to hide behind narrow, tall terrain (which previously would be amazing for the Trygon). In a competitive setting, I would just make a note of how tall a normal Trygon is and then measure that high from the table if a conflict comes up.

I seriously don't see any problems with this guy, except that the tail has a hard bend as if someone stomped it into the ground angrily. As I play Orkz I wouldn't mind this (considering all the looted stuff being smaller than average Ork tech), it looks good to me.

 Rimmy wrote:

 Battlesong wrote:
I love the way this came out and I would have no issues playing against this in any non-competitive, or even a league, setting. That being said, rule of cool or not, this really does skirt MFA and I would have an issue in a tournament, or especially in a GT

so the mixed signal here is, "great miniature I love it but don't you dare put it on the battlefield?"

No, the clear signal there is "great minature, I love it and would not have any problems playing against it in a casual game, but in a tournament I'd have an issue".

Lol don't think anyone has anything new to say, same argument back and forth.

Love the mini cheers for sharing =)

Seriously... people who throw about modelling for advantage, in my experience have been the sorest losers in the world, and find the smallest thing to claim is the manor of their downfall... but thats from playing experience.

Anywho, OT, I love the new pose, somewhat similar to how I was going to do my second Mawloc. Judging from the new pose, it doesnt seem any different in height from a Tervigon imo, and those things are huge... I've had people shout MFA at me with my newly modelled Hive Tyrant with wings, which is silly, as its on the oval base as opposed to a 60mm base due to stability.

MFA is sticking every gun that a vehicle has right smack on the front of it. MFA is not posing a model for dynamics.

I only ever hear MFA in conjunction with large models, never with small models.

anywho, as I loved the fact your Trygon was like the artwork in the book, I thought I'd show my Mawloc, which was also based on its artwork (hope you don't mind)

Wow, that's awesome conversion job there, I have to admit!
I would view this as MFA (which is something I heartily dislike), as per the OP said he wanted to improve the trygon's chances to get a cover save, and the obvious advantage gained through the conversion. Though, I would let my opponent use this model, but only if treated as the original figure for shooting. Converting one's figures is okay and heck awesome when it's well done, but only as long as one doesn't seek to gain advantage from it.
P.S. Awesome mawloc also Even though I hate it when they come and blow up my marines...

 Mara wrote:
P.S. Awesome mawloc also Even though I hate it when they come and blow up my marines...

hehehehehe

 doc1234 wrote:

Carnage43 wrote:

doc1234 wrote:Wouldnt this be modeling for advantage?

on another note though, il admit, it looks a lot less slowed than the existing example. nice job

Pretty much textbook modelling for advantage. It's like modelling snipers lying down, or the "Crouching-fex".

Does look cool though.

arnt their a few sniper models laying prone sold that way anyway? same as the crouching legs done with SM kits.

also, i now want to see this crouching-fex, because in my head, its awesomely hilarious...

Yeah. Check the tau pathfinders with rail rifles and catachan snipers.

Uhmmm... Am I the only one that don't like the tail junctures? (hope it's the correct word)

 punkow wrote:
Uhmmm... Am I the only one that don't like the tail junctures? (hope it's the correct word)

a bit of GS and it'd be reet... its the potential I know and love about it

Awesome pose with the trygon good job!

As for everyone else; Warhammer 40k is a hobby first, then a game.

 Vid wrote:


As for everyone else; Warhammer 40k is a hobby first, then a game.

^ This times infinity!!!

 Vid wrote:
Awesome pose with the trygon good job!

As for everyone else; Warhammer 40k is a hobby first, then a game.

Someone needs to remind Games Workshop of that.