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 Kaldor wrote:

 ObliviousBlueCaboose wrote:
Honestly if you seen a woman in fatigues about the only characteristic that would stand out at 28mm would be the face and maybe the hips.

If you're making an effort to include female models in your force, surely you want them to be noticeably female?

If you do, then surely realism must take a back seat to emphasised features?

Otherwise, just use the regular models and if anyone asks just say they're female.

Sadly, the faces are very obviously male. And, actually, if you sit the above mini I posted next to a male one, it's clearly different, but much closer match to the style of the other minis than some bulging breastplates.

I just got female heads from Maxmini if I recall correctly that fit perfectly into SM armor and did nothing else. haha

That's why I been suggesting gs, just even a little on the chest armor plate gives a noticeable chest. Trouble becomes matching weapons to the torso, but..... You can probably get around that.

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 Kaldor wrote:

 ObliviousBlueCaboose wrote:
Honestly if you seen a woman in fatigues about the only characteristic that would stand out at 28mm would be the face and maybe the hips.

If you're making an effort to include female models in your force, surely you want them to be noticeably female?

If you do, then surely realism must take a back seat to emphasised features?

Otherwise, just use the regular models and if anyone asks just say they're female.

Sadly, the faces are very obviously male. And, actually, if you sit the above mini I posted next to a male one, it's clearly different, but much closer match to the style of the other minis than some bulging breastplates.

At that scale, on an army wide level, no one is going to notice the faces.

That's why 28mm female models emphasise the female bits. To make them noticeably female.

Just as a note, if you make the 'focus' miniatures, like heroes or squad leaders more obviously female it may actually make the others a little more obvious too, as if someone notices a female commissar (please not the GW one...) then it may prompt them to take a second look at the army and spot other females... making them notice that they are ALL females! Well thats the theory at least...

So we are back to this is heroic scale we must over justify the features of a gender to get it across. I like a discussion of how to.

Like where we can get heads that look female and fit in guard bodies, how to green stuff the hair, how to cheat the breast plate, even thin the legs some and so on. To really pop out those female traits. I am just going to attempt to make my own female type. And the worse part about my guard that would make the females the most noticeable. (the heads) is that they wear helmets.

http://www.ragingheroes.com/collections/complete-collection/products/kapitan-ivanka-kurganova-28mm

Kapitan Ivanka is a good fem-commissar imo.

Yonan wrote:
http://www.ragingheroes.com/collections/complete-collection/products/kapitan-ivanka-kurganova-28mm

Kapitan Ivanka is a good fem-commissar imo.

she is a good one

Well, after trawling through about a dozen other threads it seems like these are your only options for reasonably proportioned guardwomen.

Statuesque miniatures: $3
http://statuesqueminiatures.shop033.com/p/7618481/sma002-resistance-fighters--helmeted-heads.html

Wrong helmet type, but excellent moulds. they are obviously feminise and of very high quality.
These are probably my favourite ones. And the ones which i'll use.

Chapter house studios: $5
http://chapterhousestudios.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=77_123&product_id=162

Quite poor quality imo. Which is odd, considering the rest of their range.

Brother Vinnie $???
http://www.brother-vinni.com/gallery/28mm/fem-heads.htm

Probably the best heads imo. but unfortunately only two of them don't have gas masks. and of those two, one is wearing goggles and the other has glasses.
So not really that usful unless you want DKoK

E-Figures $31
http://www.e-figures.com/store/product21495.html

It also comes with 10 torsos as well. not to mention three times as many heads as the others.
Since i plan on making valhallans, the torsos are not going to be much use for me. but i think this could be the best option for many.

and unfortunately these:

Seem impossible to get these days.

N.B. is four months too old to bring the thread up again?


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Oh, and if you want to do more than just head swaps. i recomend checking out this guy's thread.

It's awesome. And it has female guard. (note that i did not say because)
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/447055.page

 Kroothawk wrote:

 JbR of the Endless Spire wrote:
Just as bluecaboose pointed out, females in combat armour and fatigues don't actually look all that different from males.

So males in combat armour all look like this?


Maybe you haven't noticed that W40k is not about realistic modern warfare, not even about realistic proportions ("Heroic 28mm scale"). In this universe, all men are tall and strong and all women are sexy vixens. It is an escapist setting for teen males, so nobody cares if a modern flak armour hides some of the female curves.

A greater truth has never been spoken.

 radred609 wrote:

and unfortunately these:

Seem impossible to get these days.

These are perfect. They're obviously female, yet practical and not stripperific at all. Furthermore, they mesh with GW look perfectly.

Why are they no longer produced? Who used to make them?

 TheCaptain wrote:

 BaronIveagh wrote:

They actually look pretty similar.

No, capt' they really don't. Look at the CGI woman, she's slim and has no engorged features. Look at the plastic woman. It looks like a man with silicon implants in his ass and chest. Not feminine.

The key to female guard isn't the exaggerate the hips, buttocks and breasts, it's to make everything smaller and more...femanine. Otherwise you'll end up with a bunch of booty-licious (I felt very uncomfortable typing that word) females who are called Shaniqua.

 Griddlelol wrote:


No, capt' they really don't. Look at the CGI woman, she's slim and has no engorged features. Look at the plastic woman. It looks like a man with silicon implants in his ass and chest. Not feminine.

The key to female guard isn't the exaggerate the hips, buttocks and breasts, it's to make everything smaller and more...femanine. Otherwise you'll end up with a bunch of booty-licious (I felt very uncomfortable typing that word) females who are called Shaniqua.

The CGI is proportioned like a real person, the miniature is proportioned as GW miniatures are. It is stocky and squat, just like all GW miniatures. Compare male Cadian to a real person, they're not similarly proportioned either.

And yes, you need to emphasise wide hips and slim waist to make the miniature to look like a female. Making them slim just makes them look like teen-aged boys.

 Crimson wrote:

Making them slim just makes them look like teen-aged boys.

Whatever floats your boat.

Are the chapter house female guard a bit on the pricey side? I have seen the pics and they look ok,although i think you have to get the arms for them separately.

 Crimson wrote:

These are perfect. They're obviously female, yet practical and not stripperific at all. Furthermore, they mesh with GW look perfectly.

Why are they no longer produced? Who used to make them?

Well... therein lies the tale of the apocalyptic end of the Phoenix Wargaming Club. Darksoul did the minis for them, though he frequently had trouble meeting his orders. It met it's end amid drama and stupidity, both internally and on other boards. (Hence why no one has seen Doctor Thunder posting in a long time.)

Copplestone castings has these Future War Female Troopers


I remember them having more female figs, some better than others.
http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/

Griddlelol wrote:
No, capt' they really don't. Look at the CGI woman, she's slim and has no engorged features. Look at the plastic woman. It looks like a man with silicon implants in his ass and chest. Not feminine.

The key to female guard isn't the exaggerate the hips, buttocks and breasts, it's to make everything smaller and more...femanine. Otherwise you'll end up with a bunch of booty-licious (I felt very uncomfortable typing that word) females who are called Shaniqua.

I was thinking Kim Kardashian myself, but your giant-assed mileage may vary, lol.


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Hasslefree has some lady soldiers, who can be made into Imperial Guards(wo)men. But sadly, as you can see, while they are 28mm, they're tiny. Somebody here had a project log where he'd given them all lasguns and they looked cartoonishly huge.

 BaronIveagh wrote:


Well... therein lies the tale of the apocalyptic end of the Phoenix Wargaming Club. Darksoul did the minis for them, though he frequently had trouble meeting his orders. It met it's end amid drama and stupidity, both internally and on other boards. (Hence why no one has seen Doctor Thunder posting in a long time.)

One of these GW compatible bit manufacturers should hunt down the person who made these, and buy the moulds and the rights to the minis.

 Boggy Man wrote:
Cobblestone castings has these Future War Female Troopers


I remember them having more female figs, some better than others.
http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/

Point of confusion here. You spell it "cobblestone" castings and the link says "Copplestone" ... Many people, for some reason, mis-spell the name because they think it is meant to be the other spelling. It's the owner's name.

This is because it was set up by Mark Copplestone who sculpted many of GW's iconic RT and 2nd ed IG models and then went on to sculpt for Grenadier and then his own company. The Future war troopers scale fine next to GW. His earlier Grenadier stuff (now through eM-4) is even SLOTTABASED.

if you just want heads, try these

http://www.meowmeowminis.com/Galactic_Chevaliers_Bare_Heads_5/p1646481_7725411.aspx

I'm using the bodies and heads for a project but from looking at them, it appears they would fit fairly well on a IG body

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:

Hasslefree has some lady soldiers, who can be made into Imperial Guards(wo)men. But sadly, as you can see, while they are 28mm, they're tiny. Somebody here had a project log where he'd given them all lasguns and they looked cartoonishly huge.

I found their female grymns are, however, just the right size to make female ratling snipers.

 chromedog wrote:

 Boggy Man wrote:
Cobblestone castings has these Future War Female Troopers


I remember them having more female figs, some better than others.
http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/

Point of confusion here. You spell it "cobblestone" castings and the link says "Copplestone" ... Many people, for some reason, mis-spell the name because they think it is meant to be the other spelling. It's the owner's name.

This is because it was set up by Mark Copplestone who sculpted many of GW's iconic RT and 2nd ed IG models and then went on to sculpt for Grenadier and then his own company. The Future war troopers scale fine next to GW. His earlier Grenadier stuff (now through eM-4) is even SLOTTABASED.

Sorry about that; fixed.

 BluntmanDC wrote:

 Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:

 poda_t wrote:
sculpting some "extra armor" onto the chest isn't such a big deal. After that, you really just need to replace the heads, as that really ought to do it.

There wouldn't really be that much of a bulge from that.

Especially if you consider the thousands of years that have past as humanity suffers hardship and stuggle that would mean in all likelihood most women would not have the same size breasts as now.

What?


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 Griddlelol wrote:

The key to female guard isn't the exaggerate the hips, buttocks and breasts, it's to make everything smaller and more...femanine. Otherwise you'll end up with a bunch of booty-licious (I felt very uncomfortable typing that word) females who are called Shaniqua.

Well explained.


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Use this:



and use this for models:

 Crimson wrote:

 radred609 wrote:

and unfortunately these:

Seem impossible to get these days.

These are perfect. They're obviously female, yet practical and not stripperific at all. Furthermore, they mesh with GW look perfectly.

Why are they no longer produced? Who used to make them?

I happen to have a few sets of the female models from the Phoenix Wargaming Club. Some still on the "spruce". I was put in contact (by Doc Thunder) with a prior member who was able to make them a couple of years ago. It took 5+ months both times I placed orders (last was about a year ago), but they do add a nice variety to my IG.

Does anyone know if they had any copyrights made for them? Like if I wanted to try and cast new molds?

As many people have mentioned, I don't really think you need a special female torso or legs, the problem lays mainly in the disproportionately large hands (or man-hands) and no female heads. Micro art studio sell some pretty good female heads, I've used them on a few models. I've also been a bit sneaky with my female guardsman and hid the hands (see picture).

 Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:

Use this:

Pfffft. if the intent was to emulate Games Worksop's horrible female heads, well, mission accomplished.

man what is this thread doing back alive? On the front page too, you guys are awesome. Love all the updates.

 Salted Diamond wrote:

Does anyone know if they had any copyrights made for them? Like if I wanted to try and cast new molds?

I'm sitting back and waiting to see what happens with Chapterhouse before I approach Dakrsoul about this. Yes, they are protected by copyright, but I have no idea if DS would even bother. He's been a mystery act for a while now. If he approves, and GW gets it's ass tattooed in the chapterhouse suit, I'm hoping to offer these via DarkReign's new store (DR's new site being a work in progress) along with some custom BFG stuff from 'he who shall not be named' since Dark Reign caters more to role players, custom bits for minis are a bigger deal to them than even to TT players.

Women in the guard?
Women should not be allowed anything! They can't even grow beards!