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rigeld2 wrote:
If that was the case, you could remove Scout from the equation and the model would still have Outflank.
Is that the case here?

Interestingly that would be the one thing that would remove outflank. And it is the one thing they did not do.

Kevlar wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:
If that was the case, you could remove Scout from the equation and the model would still have Outflank.
Is that the case here?

Interestingly that would be the one thing that would remove outflank. And it is the one thing they did not do.

So granting Outflank is not an effect of Scout?

rigeld2 wrote:

Kevlar wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:
If that was the case, you could remove Scout from the equation and the model would still have Outflank.
Is that the case here?

Interestingly that would be the one thing that would remove outflank. And it is the one thing they did not do.

So granting Outflank is not an effect of Scout?

Not in the context of the FAQ question.

Kevlar wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:

Kevlar wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:
If that was the case, you could remove Scout from the equation and the model would still have Outflank.
Is that the case here?

Interestingly that would be the one thing that would remove outflank. And it is the one thing they did not do.

So granting Outflank is not an effect of Scout?

Not in the context of the FAQ question.

The second question doesn't limit the first question, and there's a single answer to both questions.

Kevlar wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:

Kevlar wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:
If that was the case, you could remove Scout from the equation and the model would still have Outflank.
Is that the case here?

Interestingly that would be the one thing that would remove outflank. And it is the one thing they did not do.

So granting Outflank is not an effect of Scout?

Not in the context of the FAQ question.

Actually it is. Two questions with one answer given. You must apply the answer to both questions not just the one of your choosing.

Looking at the main issue here of "is Outflank an effect of Scout"

5th edition I'd say yes, but the wording has changed a lot in 6th.

"This rule also confers the Outflank rule"

The rule confers Outflank. Not the effect of the rule.
Having the rule, even if it has no effect at all, confers Outflank.

... Conferring Outflank is an effect of the Scout rule.

EW models are immune to the effects of Instant Death. A wound with the ID rule removes all wounds. Are EW models susceptible to a wound with the ID rule? They're immune to the effects, but the rule is still there.

rigeld2 wrote:
... Conferring Outflank is an effect of the Scout rule.

EW models are immune to the effects of Instant Death. A wound with the ID rule removes all wounds. Are EW models susceptible to a wound with the ID rule? They're immune to the effects, but the rule is still there.

Exactly, the rule is still there despite the effects doing nothing (otherwise it wouldn't interact with FNP).
Conferring outflank requires the rule to be present, not the effects of the rule.
"This rule also confers the Outflank rule"

That's not a fair analogy, the effect on the model has been negated, the effect on other rules hasn't been negated.
It isn't a case of ID's rules limits FNP, FNP is limited by ID within it's own rules.

 grendel083 wrote:
Looking at the main issue here of "is Outflank an effect of Scout"

5th edition I'd say yes, but the wording has changed a lot in 6th.

"This rule also confers the Outflank rule"

The rule confers Outflank. Not the effect of the rule.
Having the rule, even if it has no effect at all, confers Outflank.

Conferring outflank would still be an effect though.

So no it does not have outflank because the Scout rule has no effect.