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 azazel the cat wrote:

Breotan wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
I say good luck to Francis I.

Why are people using a suffix with his name? I thought you couldn't use "the first" until there was someone else with the same name as "the second", sort of like how Jr./Sr. work.

Because on its own "Francis" is what you name a child when you know they're gonna grow up to be a wiener kid.

So instead, we all say Francis I (pronounced: "Francis One") because that is much cooler. Like the guy from Powerman 5000.

He needs to be called Pope Franky. Even better would be Franky Five Fingers. He needs a hammer, with "Holy Spirit" chiseled on the front. Then he can have the catchy moniker "time to feel the power of the Holy Spirit." Papow!

 Rented Tritium wrote:
There have been popes from outside of europe.

So who is he?

In this wikipedia page you have the links to 6 popes born in Syria

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Syrian_popes

M.

Considering that was over 1200 years ago, it is safe to say he is the first non European Pope in a while.

 Manchu wrote:
Well, let's just start with this, from his speech:

And now I would like to give the blessing, but first I want to ask you a favor. Before the bishop blesses the people, I ask that you would pray to the Lord to bless me — the prayer of the people for their Bishop.

This is quite significant, that the people would bless him before he blesses them. This shows something about his vision of leadership, which is to say that blessing flows from God's people as they are before it comes back to them from the church.

I was surprised by that and liked it a lot also. I really like the choice based on everything I've read.

The very first pope was non-european.

I think this is an incredibly bold and smart move for him to take the name Francis. Although he is Jesuit, he's reaching out to the Franciscans. Also, like St. Francis did before him, he's sending the message that he's about to clean house. About damn time, too.

 kronk wrote:
It sends the message that although he is Jesuit, he's reaching out to the Franciscans.

Is that a joke?

Not at all.

I'm looking forward to what this new leadership will mean for the church.

But it's hardly that the Jesuits and Franciscans don't get along or represent some kind of political or ideological divide.

 Manchu wrote:
But it's hardly that the Jesuits and Franciscans don't get along or represent some kind of political or ideological divide.

Yeah... I've never understand that public perception... but, then again, I'm kinda new in the Catholic world. *shrugs*

Were there historical issues between these twos?

The more famous debates were between the Dominicans, rather than the Jesuits, and the Franciscans.

 Manchu wrote:
But it's hardly that the Jesuits and Franciscans don't get along or represent some kind of political or ideological divide.

Divide? No. However, it's time for the church to address the scandals and put them to rest. There are other ideology issues (views on gays, single parents, birth control) and perhaps church framework changes (the role of nuns in the church) that I'd consider us (if I can use that word as a former Catholic) in need of addressing. In order to do any of this, you need a strong pope and a unified church. I hope he's the man for the job and that *some* progress can be made along those lines.

I guess what I'm saying is, Bergoglio did not choose the name Francis to reach out to Franciscans.

 Manchu wrote:

 kronk wrote:
It sends the message that although he is Jesuit, he's reaching out to the Franciscans.

Is that a joke?

You know this is the end times right?

Asteroids falling from the sky.
New pope taking the name of Francis
Francis is the patron saint for doggie lovers and doggies.


March 17, 2013 (live CNN feed)
"Pope Franky Five Fingers today announced 'cats kiss your asses goodbye hahaha!' and opened up the secret chest of St. Francis, opening the gateway to Dachshundheim."
We're now going live to Tom McGuidry at the Vatican. What do you see Tom?"

"This is Tom McGuidry live at the Vatican. The Pope has just exited the Sistine Chapel. He appears to be wearing a TShirt of some kind. I think it says 'Dachshund is German for little pain in the ass.' Whats this? The doorway is opening. It appears to be a wave of some kind. Yes yes its OHMYGODSOMANYWIENERDOGS RUN!"

Deep in his infernal lair, Frazzled smiles.

Also to Breotan's comment earlier, He is and will remain Francis (and not Francis I) until there is a Francis II).


Edit: Frazz, I'm fairly certain that the last pope would have had a better chance at unleashing the Dachsund hordes...

 Frazzled wrote:

Francis is the patron saint for doggie lovers and doggies.

Apparently Benedict is a cat lover... Dose this mean we are going to see a Cat/Dog schism in the vatican?

TO WAR! There shall be no dawn for catkind.

Seriously why do they rename themselves after saints? That seems a bit presumptuous.

Think of your own personal name.

 Manchu wrote:
Think of your own personal name.

Noog? Actually Pope Noog sounds pretty cool

You've read your nametag in the mirror again, Frazz.

 Manchu wrote:
You've read your nametag in the mirror again, Frazz.

Nah Pope Goon doesn't have the same ring.

Isn't Pope's Goon what you call a Swiss Guard if you want some cool scars as a souvenir of your time in the Vatican?

Gitzbitah wrote:
Isn't Pope's Goon what you call a Swiss Guard if you want some cool scars as a souvenir of your time in the Vatican?

Good one. Can the Swiss Guard smack you with impugnity - aka they are set to autoaforgive or something?

 Lord Bingo wrote:
Considering that was over 1200 years ago, it is safe to say he is the first non European Pope in a while.

Or say that he's the first Pope from continental America.

Oh dear, yet another "holy father"... they always make a really absent and malicious impression on me, for some reason...

 r3n3g8b0y wrote:
Oh dear, yet another "holy father"... they always make a really absent and malicious impression on me, for some reason...

A good psychiatrist might help with that.

Meanwhile from tinfoil hat land:

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jesuits.htm