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Louisiana

Awesome! I love the new Orc head!

Kirasu: Have we fallen so far that we are excited that GW is giving us the opportunity to spend 58$ for JUST the rules? Surprised it's not "Dataslate: Assault Phase"

AlexHolker: "The power loader is a forklift. The public doesn't complain about a forklift not having frontal armour protecting the crew compartment because the only enemy it is designed to face is the OHSA violation."

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Shadeglass Maze

It is certainly a unique and impressive take on Orcs!
   
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Tre, you never cease to amaze...

Any resemblance of this post to written English is purely coincidental.


 
   
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Richmond, VA

Brilliant! So glad I'm pledging.

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Uppsala, Sweden

I'm loving the hell out of these orcs too. So damn brutal and bestial!
   
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I can't wait to move to the hero and the brutes!!

The reaction to the Orcs has been so positive that I think I will focus more on them as the campaign progresses. I will still get the Njorn and Dvergr War Staff in there and the wolf riders. But i think I am going to intersperse those with Orc goals.
   
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Snotty Snotling





Australia

I think that's a great idea Tre! I really like the way you are sculpting these orcs, I feel they are very realistic looking and can't wait to see more of them.

Definitely going to be backing this for the nice looking orcs and goblins.
   
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Shadeglass Maze

Tre, while I think that is a fantastic idea, I do think it's important for the next goal after these first four orcs to be the modular Njorn. You've already shown a WIP of a Njorn and some people have really been waiting on them. It broadens the appeal a lot

Then, perhaps putting an orc goal after that one since, as mentioned before, there are so many Dvergr in the campaign already.

I have to admit I'd been planning to sit on the sidelines here and now all I've been thinking about is how to use those orcs, despite the fact that I don't play orcs . I'm thinking unit filler perhaps...

Is there an add-on price for extra ranks beyond 10? I have been wondering about piggy-backing onto someone's pledge, but I haven't seen a way to add on ranks to a pledge without going up to the next pledge. (Although maybe someone only wants 7-8 ranks and I could piggyback that way).

For instance, I'm interested in 10 orcs, so that's 2.5 ranks... if someone is pledging for the max pledge and interested in splitting some of it off, just let me know
   
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Richmond, VA

Exactly, I don't even need Orcs but I'm going to get some because they're amazing.

I'm trying to make a list in my head of what 10 ranks I want for my 180 pledge and I might end up wanting 15 ranks. Any way you can do a 15 rank for $250 pledge, Tre? I betcha a "one of everything in the KS: all ranks and heroes currently available, and one rank of everything unlocked" for $500+ would probably nab a few. People like being guaranteed everything.

"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke 
   
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Shadeglass Maze

Yeah, they do . Lots of completionists on kickstarter! Would make it easy to track, too.
   
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Well here's the thing, when I built the rewards I built them for the best possible discount I could offer. I really don't make very much profit at all on the 180 pledge as it is. Figure that the $180 pledge gives you 10 ranks. Which going off of the base value of each rank is a $70.00 value. To be totally honest I set the prices stupidly low again. The Orcs for example..... selling them at the $180 only nets me enough money per figure to restock what I sell. I actually won't profit a dime from them at the expected production prices. I did not even really think about it until just now actually.

I want to produce them and I won't back down from what I set the prices at now, but I also cannot afford to offer them any cheaper either.

I worry that stacking on more discounts is going to start working against me again the way that it did in the previous kickstarter. I don't want to leave money on the table but I also don't want to shove it over the edge reaching for it either.

I am trying to figure something out that will work.
   
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Shadeglass Maze

I don't think you need to add a discount, just an add-on price for ranks in case someone wants more than 10 (like judgedoug mentioned).
   
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Just published an update. Unfortunately I had to close the Atta, Nio, and Tio level pledges where they are now. I apologize for any inconvenience or confusion but this is absolutely neccessary.
   
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$20 per rank instead of $18 isn't bad at all... but, you probably want to make a new pledge level at $200 for 10 ranks.

It's interesting that you're worried about the price of the 4-model orc ranks, which is your very first stretch goal! They must be quite a bit larger than the dvergr since there's a set of 9 dvergr for $20... but that's good .

That said- as I mentioned in my first line, I think $20 for the ranks you're offering is still a pretty fantastic deal, I was surprised you could keep it even that cheap in metal! I paid that much for just 4-packs of bonebacks on ebay, although admittedly moreso because I didn't know if you'd be offering them up again.

Housekeeping-wise, it might be worth message the single ATTA and NIO pledgers to see if they will move their pledge (still getting the same discount and just entering a custom amount). It'd also look a bit cleaner to limit TIO to 40 rather than 39 . Just thinking about new backers coming to the page for the first time and being confused by the options.

And again, right now your highest normal pledge level is $140 so adding in a new TIO at $200 would probably help

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I agree with RiTides. Getting an orc figure for $5 is still a fantastic price!

   
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne





Melbourne .au

How big are the orcs?

Could you take a pic with the sculpt standing next to Sverreulf, Halvaror, a Wraith Knight and maybe a couple of the KS1 figures? (and a goblin!)

That would give people a good perspective of their size compared to other figures from across the RBG ranges - since these Orcs are a new part of the range it will make it very useful when working out how they can fit into customer's/people's collections.

   
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Pleasant Valley, Iowa

Why do these Orcs look so much different than this Orc?



Or is the concept art shown so far is for the troll brother? Because that makes a lot more sense.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.

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Melbourne .au

Well, that one is a Reaper orc. So it probably went through concept art to specifications, then was approved to look a certain way by the customer (Reaper). The RBG range is Tre' sculpting essentially what he wants to do himself.

If you look around on the internet, Kev Adams has done some somewhat similar (yet noticeably different) and very different orcs for different companies that look very little like his "classic" work for GW.

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Backed. I need those orcs
   
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Nuremberg

The second Orc stretch goal has been met Roll on modular Nord!

   
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I JUST took the first option set apart last night Az. I will try to get him put back together for that pic btu I did post a pic of the orc next to Weglaf for scale reference.....though I can see that does not quite cover all the bases as did your suggestion.

The RBG Orcs are just that RBG Orcs, they are not intended to be compatible ( design wise ) with other ranges. I wanted these figures to have their own look entirely.

Yeh looks liek we had a big bump over the past 2 days and now we are on to the Modular Njorn!! WOO HOO!! I guess I had better at least get one more of them sculpted.
   
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Fair enough, thanks.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.

 Flinty wrote:
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 tre manor wrote:
I JUST took the first option set apart last night Az. I will try to get him put back together for that pic btu I did post a pic of the orc next to Weglaf for scale reference.....though I can see that does not quite cover all the bases as did your suggestion.


Thanks for putting in the effort to get the comparison photos - they'd be good to have up on the KS page, so we can see how big they are. From the pic they look hulking, but it's hard to tell exactly.

   
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Shadeglass Maze

Tre, will you be adding the $200 for 10 ranks pledge level?
   
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An updated WIP of one of the modular njorn footmen (which are the next stretch goal):
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Nuremberg

Good to see "viking-alikes" who actually look like they might live somewhere a bit chilly

   
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Uppsala, Sweden

Damn, I really don't know if I like the Orcs or the Njorn best now. These modular Njorn are most likely going to look awesome, and many of the Njorn heroes are among my absolute favorites. Oh my, will be hard not to go over budget on this!

 Da Boss wrote:
Good to see "viking-alikes" who actually look like they might live somewhere a bit chilly

What are you talking about, here in Sweden we're bare chested year-round. Of course, we're all so damn hairy and covered with slabs of muscle that I guess it amounts to the same thing as clothing.
   
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 RiTides wrote:
Tre, will you be adding the $200 for 10 ranks pledge level?

Update 7: ... Each rank added to your pledge beyond the Sjua mark is $20.00 unless otherwise specifically stated ...
So you pick sjua and just increase amount pledged to 200 + something for the individual heroes, you do want heroes.
   
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Shadeglass Maze

Yeah, I know it's possible. But that text isn't on the main page, and most KS backers pledge for the most popular level. That would be 10 ranks here, but only a 7-rank level is open.

*shrug*
   
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RiTides is right I do need to get a specific pledge up for that amount. Sorry I have been off my game lately I am having a MISERABLE time with Flu / Strep Throat....... Man I hate being sick.

I am goign to add that pledge now though.
   
 
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