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I think that book like 'Baneblade' would translate on to the big screen better than the Horus Heresy Series.
   
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I don't believe that any film studio capable of making it work would ever want to produce it. Movies about alternative subculture bands or toys are generally awful.

The audiobooks are fine if you want some action without reading listen to those.

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I agree with both the Tv Series and HBO suggestions. I think it is too grand of a tale to be told properly in just a few movies, and if you are going to make something like 5+ movies may as well make it into a proper Seasoned Tv Series to properly tell the story in detail. Think Game of Thrones or Walking dead in terms of episode length, number of seasons and detail.

I am unsure if it would do better as live action or CGI......If it is live action it really needs to be properly cast , and if it is CGI it DEFINITELY shouldn't be done like the Ultramarines.... Bah that was a mockery of the true badassery the 41st Millenium contains.

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 WargamingWarrior wrote:
I think that book like 'Baneblade' would translate on to the big screen better than the Horus Heresy Series.


My vote would be for Eisenhorn. If it had to be HH...maybe a story involving Garro and the Knights Errant? Whether it's 30K or 40K, they'd need to tell a 'smaller' story.

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No one would stump up the funding needed to do it justice. It's too niche a product to attract investors, and it would never recover it's cost. As much as I'd love it, I think it would be better done, and more likely to happen, via video game. Gears of Garro style.

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I think anything wh40k should be made as tv series [or mini series] only. It would let the audience better immerse in the new [for majority] world.
   
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I said three.

I really feel like the HH could be done in three movies. The main focus has to be on Horus and his eventual fall.

So, breakdown:
Movie 1: The corruption of Horus, the hero of the Imperium of Man.
Movie 2: Forces are divided, catching the Imperium off guard.
Movie 3: The Imperium rebounds and Horus falls.

Viral marketing: So as to not leave the other Primarchs out of the picture, 15-20 minute webepisodes detailing their story during the HH.
   
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They could do a trilogy off the first 3 books and then split off from there with shows or movies

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Where's the TV option? I would kill (exaggeration obviously) to see HH become the next Game of Thrones.

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Sadly never going to happen , major cgi just to make marines big, plus they would insist on a female marine to be politically correct. Not against female characters just not a female marine, it. Could get worse they might want a marine love interest!

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Sadly never going to happen , major cgi just to make marines big, plus they would insist on a female marine to be politically correct. Not against female characters just not a female marine, it. Could get worse they might want a marine love interest!


I guess one good thing about the Heresy books in that respect is that there are a number of female characters for once. Granted i think most of them die horribly, but since pretty much everyone dies horribly, that's less of a problem than it can be.

(though i am one of those evil heretics who has no problem with the idea of female marines. i mean, i'm also ok with marine love interests that don't involve female characters so you should probably not listen to me here.)

on topic, leave 'em as books. or have the people who did the spartacus shows handle it as miniseries; game of thrones is far, far too self-serious.

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I really don't think you could ever get 30k or 40k onto celluloid, be it Cinema, TV or Netflix.

Why? It would never pass the censors unless you gut the grim dark.

Don't forget - The Imperium is fascism writ ridiculously large. Billions toil, unpaid, in Hives never seeing open sky or sunlight, or indeed anything but the Manufactorum they were born into.

Consider the humble Lasgun. We might joke about them in-game - but they're horrific weapons. Even a glancing hit is going to leave a livid burn. Then consider the Bolter, arguably the signature weapon of 40k - the shells detonate inside you...every shot, someone or at least someone's body part is exploding.

Then there's the body horror aspect - Mechanicus anyone? Servitors (lobotomised and adapted humans, rarely if ever by choice?)

Close Combat? Superhuman strength in a strength boosting body armour, swinging a finely balanced, designed-for-the-job chainsaw around? Swords to the guts are one thing. Seeing someone ripped apart in a split second as his attacker also punches his first through his squadmates head, helmet and all? Can't be filmed. It'd be censored, and not without good reason.

Sure, you could have cutaways - but then what's the point at all?

It's ultimately unfilmable. It just cannot be done.

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Nope, nope, nope. I'd rather read the books. They already have a few inconsistencies between them to put them all in a movie/s. XD

 
   
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5 or more it's bigger then the lord of the rings and the hobbit put together

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It'd work better as a tv series.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I really don't think you could ever get 30k or 40k onto celluloid, be it Cinema, TV or Netflix.

Why? It would never pass the censors unless you gut the grim dark.

Don't forget - The Imperium is fascism writ ridiculously large. Billions toil, unpaid, in Hives never seeing open sky or sunlight, or indeed anything but the Manufactorum they were born into.

Consider the humble Lasgun. We might joke about them in-game - but they're horrific weapons. Even a glancing hit is going to leave a livid burn. Then consider the Bolter, arguably the signature weapon of 40k - the shells detonate inside you...every shot, someone or at least someone's body part is exploding.

Then there's the body horror aspect - Mechanicus anyone? Servitors (lobotomised and adapted humans, rarely if ever by choice?)

Close Combat? Superhuman strength in a strength boosting body armour, swinging a finely balanced, designed-for-the-job chainsaw around? Swords to the guts are one thing. Seeing someone ripped apart in a split second as his attacker also punches his first through his squadmates head, helmet and all? Can't be filmed. It'd be censored, and not without good reason.

Sure, you could have cutaways - but then what's the point at all?

It's ultimately unfilmable. It just cannot be done.


Are you serious? 40k is dark, yes. But you're obviously blindly hyping up how dark 40k is. There are definitely things from 40k that would not be allowed on television or mainstream film, but none of those are the things you've listed.

There's plenty of disturbing and dark gak all throughout film and television. Bodies explode in mainstream action movies all the time and people are horribly murdered in mainstream horror films all the time. You mention so much about how "it wont get past the censors" but at least in my country, it certainly would. The only thing that don't get past american censors are graphic sex and extremely disturbing violence, which nothing you listed is really. The only things in 40k that probably couldn't be shown are dark eldar/slaanesh related but those could easily be implied instead of directly being shown and make it past any censors.

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 ajaxcrackmaster wrote:
It'd work better as a tv series



Agreed.

Hollywood has been a steaming pile of gak for a while now, they would ruin it like they do most other really good stories.
   
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Honestly, as much as I like the Horus Humbug I can not see it as a successful film franchise... AT least not the first 40k-franchise. I personally think that some other series that is a bit more relateable than 2,5 - 3 meter tall demi-gods of war capable of ripping through metal and rocks with their bare hands and brandishing literal mini-rocket-launchers like it's a SMG as well as some abnormally huge and heavy armor? Could very well scare off newcomer.

My idea? The Gaunt's Ghosts series would make for some absolutely amazing movies that probably are a better way to introduce people to the dark, dystopic future. Normal people caught between titans, sorcerers and deamons trying Theke best to survive and fight for their cause.

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I think traitors would be disappointed with HH movies, since most of them would end up being action movies focussed on the 'good guys'.

That being said, Know No Fear would make a great action movie imo. Guilliman punching people in space, the brotherly betrayal between the Ultramarine trying to reconnect with a former comrade amongst the Word Bearers, a not quite Last Stand...


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Anyone else feel that Ciaphas Cain would be good adaptation material? You can focus on a story without Marines, it's got comedy and action.

But then again I'd love for an anime studio like Trigger to take on a 40k story, so long as they don't butcher it with CGI.

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I voted no. There are too many sci-fi works with something similar to imperium of men vs some evil factions.

Without orks, eldar, drukhari, sisters of battle, gen cult, harlequins, necrons, daemons, tyranids or even 40k BA, SW and DA a movie about warhammer 40k or 30k would be appreciated by a few fans.

AM vs tyranids is basically starship troopers but it's just one movie. Necrons have something from stargate, terminator and matrix but I think they can look quite fresh too.

It should be something more original than the average sci-fi tv series or franchises and IMHO the 30k setting is too limiting.

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It could be bigger than the LOTR movies because they can keep expanding it like Star Wars.
   
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Sounds like an HBO or Showtime or AMC network show honestly. It could easily be 10 seasons. Also, have to be TV MA, if they don't do it with the violence like it is meant to be I wouldn't want to watch it.

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5+, but they'd have to be animated movies. Not CG with some people mixed in. With as astronomical as the budget would be, it'd about have to be hand drawn or cartoon like CG, non 3D

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I’d prefer to leave them as books. They’re too niche to survive credibly in the mainstream cinema scene.

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Cathix wrote:
If GW Did agree to make a film or a TV or web series, with our luck Micheal Bay would be the director and Christopher Nolan would write the scrips lol

In all seriousness though, If they just made everything CGI like star wars the clone wars, I believe it would do rather well, CGI equipment is becoming less and less expensive to buy and use, look at 3D printers as a comparision


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I really don't think you could ever get 30k or 40k onto celluloid, be it Cinema, TV or Netflix.

Why? It would never pass the censors unless you gut the grim dark.

Don't forget - The Imperium is fascism writ ridiculously large. Billions toil, unpaid, in Hives never seeing open sky or sunlight, or indeed anything but the Manufactorum they were born into.

Consider the humble Lasgun. We might joke about them in-game - but they're horrific weapons. Even a glancing hit is going to leave a livid burn. Then consider the Bolter, arguably the signature weapon of 40k - the shells detonate inside you...every shot, someone or at least someone's body part is exploding.

Then there's the body horror aspect - Mechanicus anyone? Servitors (lobotomised and adapted humans, rarely if ever by choice?)

Close Combat? Superhuman strength in a strength boosting body armour, swinging a finely balanced, designed-for-the-job chainsaw around? Swords to the guts are one thing. Seeing someone ripped apart in a split second as his attacker also punches his first through his squadmates head, helmet and all? Can't be filmed. It'd be censored, and not without good reason.

Sure, you could have cutaways - but then what's the point at all?

It's ultimately unfilmable. It just cannot be done.


And that's just what the "good guys" do. The things they fight against....

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you would either make a long film trilogy and trim it like lotr and get over the fact you wont see every type of person or just do a clone wars type series much more in depth with each series kinda flash backing to the start of that primarch but the main war still going on and explain a lot more but still no need to go into the exact depth of how the warp works or something because that would be boring on screen and anyone that liked it would search wh40k if they want to know also films have to have great actors and be a real people film whereas the series could be clone wars type cartoon or better but not the ULTRAMARINES sort of cgi people

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deotrims 16th wrote:
you would either make a long film trilogy and trim it like lotr and get over the fact you wont see every type of person or just do a clone wars type series much more in depth with each series kinda flash backing to the start of that primarch but the main war still going on and explain a lot more but still no need to go into the exact depth of how the warp works or something because that would be boring on screen and anyone that liked it would search wh40k if they want to know also films have to have great actors and be a real people film whereas the series could be clone wars type cartoon or better but not the ULTRAMARINES sort of cgi people


Dude, punctuation. I’d rather see a film series, because I don’t care about getting more than the main events into movie media. A lot of it works better as independent stories, and tying in every HH novel group is going to just distract from the main conflict without actually adding very much to the movies.

I’d go with a course of events something like this: Introducing the setting at the time of the Crusade and the Primarchs, then Horus falling, Istvaan III and V, Prospero, Calth, the Dark Angels, Mars, the siege of Terra, Sangy, Horus, and the Emperor’s deaths, and a bunch of stuff I probably missed or ordered wrong because I’m less than halfway through the BL series. These events directly tie into Horus’s betrayal and the subsequent war, while creating a logical sequence of events.

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Space marines would translate terribly onto a screen. They are for the most part pretty wooden characters.
Gaunts Ghosts though would make an incredible tv series. It’s got everything a good drama needs.

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